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Why cookie Rocket posted:I don't understand why you're so eager to defend it. People are always saying it's ok if something is lovely because it's "for kids" but kids should be raised on high-quality fun, so they have good taste as adults. IMO, etc.
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It's not a defense. It's a fact. It's a children's toy made for a different audience, not a personal insult. If you look at a toy of Optimus Prime and start talking about kid's "taste" and "fun levels" it's time to go outside, take a walk, maybe talk to some friends. We don't want to end up like those grown ups who talk about that other hasbro property like it's exclusively for them and not for kids. Most people here don't even like the movies anyway at least not on their surface presentation level, not sure why anyone would care deeply about them. Also get ready for years of toys outside CHUG looking like this, a recent interview on tfw2005 indicates the next show will be much more like rescue bots. Hasbro is seriously gunning to get the next generation on board all of a sudden. Well, good on them, at least we have third parties, chug, and idw, and all of those are things that did not exist until recent. My only disappointment is that I like dinobots and was hoping for nice representations of them. Woe is me. I tend to like cyberverse though, and as long as some of those are decent I'll be happy. A pocket full of dinosaurs would suit me.
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Jan 15, 2014 16:53
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Endless Mike posted:The Transformers I was raised on required two or three flips to get from car to robot and had little articulation beyond moving arms around. Same, and I still managed to break some of them.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:05
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Endless Mike posted:The Transformers I was raised on required two or three flips to get from car to robot and had little articulation beyond moving arms around. I remember my first transformers were Red Alert, Sandstorm, Weirdwolf, Sureshot, and the later combiners like Defensor and Menasor. I remember these toys being simple to transform in a different way, the engineering style and articulation methods were more simplistic and primitive. This engineering is focused on minimizing raw materials, reducing the number of parts molded, and removing complex factory assembly.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:07
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Is this the one designed to be converted in eight or fifteen steps or something? The other OP they've shown looks a bit better but I don't care too much for the design anyway. I will only get figures of this line if they're really cool... uh which is what I already do with every line now that I think about it.Why cookie Rocket posted:I don't understand why you're so eager to defend it. People are always saying it's ok if something is lovely because it's "for kids" but kids should be raised on high-quality fun, so they have good taste as adults. IMO, etc. Like I agree that the toy is ugly but jesus, read what you just wrote.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:14
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A four year old doesn't want a Transformer that they need a 35 panel instruction manual to get into bot mode. By the time they are six they want video games so toys don't matter anymore.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:17
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You can make a cheap, high-quality transforming robot toy without turning it into Panels: The Movie: The Toy.
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Jan 15, 2014 17:34
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Bit tricky when the movie is Panels: The Movie.
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Jan 15, 2014 18:05
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Compare that to pretty much anything in Cybertron or even Energon. Cybertron and early classics probably hit as good a balance as they can get.
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Jan 15, 2014 18:09
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Blackheart posted:Like I agree that the toy is ugly but jesus, read what you just wrote. Yeah, I'm some kind of a monster because I'd rather feed a kid vegetables than McDonalds. Endless Mike posted:The Transformers I was raised on required two or three flips to get from car to robot and had little articulation beyond moving arms around. There's a huge difference between simple and lovely. Speaking of McDonalds, their happy meal transformers were better engineered than that Optimus. And it's not as if I dislike it because it's new, I wouldn't be in favor of giving a kid a Cindersaur instead of that thing, because they're both equally lovely.
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Jan 15, 2014 18:20
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Yeah, I'm some kind of a monster because I'd rather feed a kid vegetables than McDonalds. You managed to make the comparison even worse.
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Jan 15, 2014 18:41
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If you do not give a kid the right toys he might not buy better toys for himself when he grows up 
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Jan 15, 2014 18:43
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Rita Repulsa posted:If you do not give a kid the right toys he might not buy better toys for himself when he grows up If you can't get into a good preschool you can't get accepted to a good kindergarten and may not get a slot at the private school.
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edit: eh, I'm done feeding the trolls. It's way too easy to get a rise out of me.
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Jan 15, 2014 18:46
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Keldroc posted:Age of Extinction Premium Edition Optimus Prime Revealed e: I guess we should be happy this thing still has elbow joints.
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Jan 15, 2014 18:55
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Good, now let's get back to discussing the figure. I'm blaming whoever approved the character design in the first place. It's an interesting looking robot, but when you decide to mix the hyper-complex movie designs (who don't even have much vehicle kibble anymore), making them into a transformable toy, AND decide to simplify them for children (which is a good goal, by itself), you end up with this. If they do decide to make simple robot designs like those in rescue bots fro the next animation series, there would be no problem with simplifying the toyline. TheDK posted:Suddenly that Dragon Train Optimus thing doesn't seem so bad. It's still poo poo, just of a different kind.
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Jan 15, 2014 18:55
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The part that surprises me most (and in this day and age I'm definitely in "fool me twice shame on me territory") is the lack of paint apps on that giant crazy back panel. I mean, it wouldn't've helped much, but if there was some silver on those greeblies it would've disguised just a bit that you're looking at the underside of a giant chunk of truck. I mean I own and like a lot of BW2 toys but that thing is offensively shellformery. edit - silver lining department: I'm genuinely happy they remembered that chrome exists.
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Jan 15, 2014 19:02
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Why cookie Rocket posted:The part that surprises me most (and in this day and age I'm definitely in "fool me twice shame on me territory") is the lack of paint apps on that giant crazy back panel. I mean, it wouldn't've helped much, but if there was some silver on those greeblies it would've disguised just a bit that you're looking at the underside of a giant chunk of truck. I mean I own and like a lot of BW2 toys but that thing is offensively shellformery. This crazy looking thing is marked as the premium edition, won't the regular release be all beige-grey plastic and Silver-esq (TM) paint apps?
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Jan 15, 2014 19:34
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That Optimus makes armada Sideswipe look like a masterpiece.
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Jan 15, 2014 20:23
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Keldroc posted:Age of Extinction Premium Edition Optimus Prime Revealed At this point I can't even say that it's Optimus Prime anymore. The classic imagery isn't there anymore. No mouth guard, no chest windows, and he's more silver then red or blue. You take the truck plating off of him and you could sell him as an Ultraman and people would buy that.
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Jan 15, 2014 20:35
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Blackheart posted:Good, now let's get back to discussing the figure. Silhouette commented that it looks like one of those movie character shampoo bottles, and I can't disagree with that. The chrome also kind of makes it look like if you peeled it off there would be chocolate underneath. Keldroc fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jan 15, 2014 |
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Jan 15, 2014 20:48
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Keldroc posted:Silhouette commented that it looks like one of those movie character shampoo bottles, and I can't disagree with that. The factory boss saw this figure and lost face. http://www.tygerpipes.com/product.html?pid=1108
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Jan 15, 2014 21:03
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Yeah, I'm some kind of a monster because I'd rather feed a kid vegetables than McDonalds.  This has to be a loving joke post.
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You know what are some awesome transforming toys? Those goddamn Switch N' Go Dinos by Vtech. Target is clearancing out the $13 set, and I picked up two last night and goddamn, so much fun for being simple. They talk, they light up, they turn into vehicles and dinosaurs and Torr the green one, sounds like Grimlock.
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The Rage posted:You know what are some awesome transforming toys? Those goddamn Switch N' Go Dinos by Vtech. Target is clearancing out the $13 set, and I picked up two last night and goddamn, so much fun for being simple. They talk, they light up, they turn into vehicles and dinosaurs and Torr the green one, sounds like Grimlock. AHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAH ahghdsfjsdfkl Look at this magnificent bastard for $30 http://www.amazon.com/VTech-Switch-...tch+and+go+dino
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It's pretty incredible what those things can do given how inexpensive they are
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The Rage posted:You know what are some awesome transforming toys? Those goddamn Switch N' Go Dinos by Vtech. Target is clearancing out the $13 set, and I picked up two last night and goddamn, so much fun for being simple. They talk, they light up, they turn into vehicles and dinosaurs and Torr the green one, sounds like Grimlock. I totally snagged that black/silver/orange gigantosaur for my kid even though he's only a year old because in a year or so that'll be baby's first Trypticon. Deceptive Thinker posted:It's pretty incredible what those things can do given how inexpensive they are And the plastic, locking, ratcheting, etc. is like an absolute dream.
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Why cookie Rocket posted:I totally snagged that black/silver/orange gigantosaur for my kid even though he's only a year old because in a year or so that'll be baby's first Trypticon. The one green guy I've got reminds me of a Cybertron-era ultra-class toy.
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strangehamster posted:AHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAH ahghdsfjsdfkl And those eyes on his little windshield? Yeah, they change expression when it talks and transforms and poo poo. $30 And if you've got a Fred Meyer/Kroger near by, they're clearancing out the huge gently caress-off Tyrannosaur: http://www.amazon.com/VTech-Switch-Go-Dinos-Dinosaur/dp/B00CMNX2IA/ref=pd_bxgy_t_img_y LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT FUCKER
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I bought the velociraptor helicopter and the allosaurus jet fighter for my 4 1/2 year old niece for Christmas and she loves them. The helicopter is a bit too complex for her to transform easily, but the jet is just right. They're pretty cool "my first Transformer" style toys. I especially like that, when they're in dino mode, most of their speech is funfacts about the dinosaur they turn into.
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Keldroc posted:I especially like that, when they're in dino mode, most of their speech is funfacts about the dinosaur they turn into. I can tell you've never heard the voice of that baby Trypticon. He makes Jazz sound like Benedict Cumberpatch and makes my white guilt flare up like crazy.
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Why cookie Rocket posted:I can tell you've never heard the voice of that baby Trypticon. He makes Jazz sound like Benedict Cumberpatch and makes my white guilt flare up like crazy. Good job buying the racist version
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Why cookie Rocket posted:I can tell you've never heard the voice of that baby Trypticon. He makes Jazz sound like Benedict Cumberpatch and makes my white guilt flare up like crazy. Is that the opposite of "Wayne Brady makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X"?
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SpikeMcclane posted:That's not a transformer. That's a robot inside a completely separable, truck-shaped pretender shell. Are you calling Big Convoy/Nemesis Prime a non-transformer? 
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Rita Repulsa posted:Also get ready for years of toys outside CHUG looking like this, a recent interview on tfw2005 indicates the next show will be much more like rescue bots. From the phrasing in the interview itself, it sounds like they're aiming to recapture the spirit of Animated, which i'm all for.
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Why cookie Rocket posted:I can tell you've never heard the voice of that baby Trypticon. He makes Jazz sound like Benedict Cumberpatch and makes my white guilt flare up like crazy. No, I have. He still fires off giganotosaurus factoids once he's out of in-box demo mode.
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The Taint Reaper posted:Are you calling Big Convoy/Nemesis Prime a non-transformer? Beast Wars Neo figures kibble was so absurd that it wrapped all the way around into being awesome. Peter Bazooka fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Jan 16, 2014 |
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Keldroc posted:No, I have. He still fires off giganotosaurus factoids once he's out of in-box demo mode. Huh, maybe I'll give it a shot, I was so horrified I yanked the batteries.
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The Taint Reaper posted:Are you calling Big Convoy/Nemesis Prime a non-transformer? 1) Big Convoy has a lot of shell, but he also has a lot more of the beast mode integrated into his robot mode, than that Optimus. If you removed the mammoth bits, you'd have a really lame looking, incomplete robot. On that Optimus, the only thing you'd lose are the smokestacks. 2) BC's shell bits are shaggy hair, so it makes sense for that to be hanging off the mechanical bits.
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Is there a vtech Dino stegosaurus? And if so, is it cool? Stegosaurus best saurus.
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