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Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

ZShakespeare posted:

I also migrated by existing gmail (so as to not lose conversation threads) using the osx mail.app.

Could you elaborate a bit on this? My biggest problem with leaving Gmail is in not having that wonderful, searchable extension of my brain known as the Gmail database.

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Ezrem
Jan 23, 2006

ZShakespeare posted:

Otherwise if you are willing to put in the effort it's probably possible to use iCloud's rules and folders to approximate filters and tags.

It's not, sadly. It doesn't give you anywhere near Gmail's granularity. Neither does Outlook.com. Neither does Yahoo. I think the only thing with similar functionality is full-blown Exchange.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Xguard86 posted:

I actually never use google's word event system, its made mistakes and i'd rather just explicitly enter my stuff. I guess one big thing I miss from Google is the month calendar view with the small bars for what I have pending over an entire month and the view of my next X number of appointments in order (which might be the ticker view you're talking about)

Nah, it's like this.

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
oh, no thats what I meant combined in one screen. Awesome.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose!

Lexicon posted:

Could you elaborate a bit on this? My biggest problem with leaving Gmail is in not having that wonderful, searchable extension of my brain known as the Gmail database.

There are a lot of guides on how to do this. Very simply: set up iCloud email and GMail in mail.app (or any other imap client for that matter, then drag all your crap from [All Mail] on the gmail account into Archive. This might take a long time, and be aware that a free iCloud account only has 5GB of storage (iirc).

e: also be aware that iCloud's search isn't as powerful as GMail's. I would recommend keeping a copy of your stuff in GMail and trialing iCloud for a month. If you find yourself not jumping back to GMail to do stuff after a month or so, then you know you can get rid of it (the app, you'll likely never completely divorce yourself from your gmail address).


Ezrem posted:

It's not, sadly. It doesn't give you anywhere near Gmail's granularity. Neither does Outlook.com. Neither does Yahoo. I think the only thing with similar functionality is full-blown Exchange.

That's why I used weasel words. If you are an email warrior then iCloud is not for you, and you will have to deal with a less than ideal experience on iOS. For my own use, my work flow is: Receive all mail into the inbox, act on the mail then trash or archive as necessary, or put it into a reference or todo folder with a reminder. Inbox zero.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

ZShakespeare posted:

There are a lot of guides on how to do this. Very simply: set up iCloud email and GMail in mail.app (or any other imap client for that matter, then drag all your crap from [All Mail] on the gmail account into Archive. This might take a long time, and be aware that a free iCloud account only has 5GB of storage (iirc).

e: also be aware that iCloud's search isn't as powerful as GMail's. I would recommend keeping a copy of your stuff in GMail and trialing iCloud for a month. If you find yourself not jumping back to GMail to do stuff after a month or so, then you know you can get rid of it (the app, you'll likely never completely divorce yourself from your gmail address).

I might totally go for this if it weren't for the lack of custom domain support in iCloud. Next time I do a painful email migration, it has to be to a domain that I control, for future portability. @icloud.com is Apple's current flavour of the month - Christ knows if that'll still be in favour in 5 years time. I realize @me.com is still supported, but who knows for how long. I suspect @mac.com addresses are long dead.

spongeworthy
Jan 16, 2009

keevo posted:

I have issues with using Google Maps on Bluetooth in my car. The voice navigation is really quiet when there's music playing even though it lowers the volume of the music.

Does Apple Maps work with Bluetooth in your vehicle? Both Google maps and Mapquest will utilize my BT connection and play through the speaker but stock maps won't at all.

Mine turns off the radio completely when dictating directions or if Siri/microphone is activated on BT..

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

I used Fantastical for a bit, but iOS 7.1 beta greatly improves Calendar's usability. I still like Fantastical's integration of Reminders, but I'm back to using Calendar most of the time.

I expect that iOS 7.1 will resolve a lot of people's complaints about Calendar's changes in iOS 7.

CygnusTM
Oct 11, 2002

Here's what we been waiting for. A camera app that only takes horizontal videos. Now we just have to force everyone to use it.

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx

CygnusTM posted:

Here's what we been waiting for. A camera app that only takes horizontal videos. Now we just have to force everyone to use it.

Yep, let me just right on giving a poo poo about the orientation of a loving phone video.

TransatlanticFoe
Mar 1, 2003

Hell Gem

CygnusTM posted:

Here's what we been waiting for. A camera app that only takes horizontal videos. Now we just have to force everyone to use it.

I'm for this in theory, but anyone who would think to use this would also think to rotate their phone in the first place.

Mad Wack
Mar 27, 2008

"The faster you use your cooldowns, the faster you can use them again"
I bought my own email domain years ago so I have control over where it forwards. You might want to give that a shot if you want to be truly free of lock-in to specific email vendors. I use Hover to handle the forwarding. Also I really have to thank Jon Siricusa for suggesting this on one of his Hypercritical episodes.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Lexicon posted:

Could you elaborate a bit on this? My biggest problem with leaving Gmail is in not having that wonderful, searchable extension of my brain known as the Gmail database.

I think you just set up an IMAP account and then wait forever while Mail.app downloads your entire archive. Then the mails will show up in Spotlight.

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

Mad Wack posted:

I bought my own email domain years ago so I have control over where it forwards. You might want to give that a shot if you want to be truly free of lock-in to specific email vendors. I use Hover to handle the forwarding. Also I really have to thank Jon Siricusa for suggesting this on one of his Hypercritical episodes.

This is a good idea to start with - but it falls somewhat short of full vendor agnosticism because although you'll receive at @goon.com you'll still be replying from your current service's email address (@gmail, @icloud, etc) and filling the email histories of your correspondents with the latter. At which point, their autocomplete will likely end up recommending the latter eventually => you're back to vendor lock-in.

That's why I *really* want iCloud to support custom domains. I'm not confident we'll ever see it though.

Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

I used Fantastical for a bit, but iOS 7.1 beta greatly improves Calendar's usability. I still like Fantastical's integration of Reminders, but I'm back to using Calendar most of the time.

I expect that iOS 7.1 will resolve a lot of people's complaints about Calendar's changes in iOS 7.
I just looked up to see what the calendar change was and gently caress yes!! So glad to see the old month layout back, that was my single biggest complaint with iOS 7.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose!

Lexicon posted:

This is a good idea to start with - but it falls somewhat short of full vendor agnosticism because although you'll receive at @goon.com you'll still be replying from your current service's email address (@gmail, @icloud, etc) and filling the email histories of your correspondents with the latter. At which point, their autocomplete will likely end up recommending the latter eventually => you're back to vendor lock-in.

That's why I *really* want iCloud to support custom domains. I'm not confident we'll ever see it though.

You know that setting the reply-to address makes the email appear to come from whatever address you want right?

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
I'm digging fantastical, thanks thread!

Also as an aside. As a long time android user now on iOS: holy poo poo it's nice how integrated and functional these apps are compared to the android hodge podge

Lexicon
Jul 29, 2003

I had a beer with Stephen Harper once and now I like him.

ZShakespeare posted:

You know that setting the reply-to address makes the email appear to come from whatever address you want right?

I actually didn't think that worked in practice for individuals, what with the various spam detection heuristics used by Google etc. Are you saying that I could be lexicon@goon.com for incoming and outgoing mail (via a combination of MX records and reply-to), hosted entirely on iCloud, and with no attendant nightmare of lost mails and such?

That could be worth doing, if so.

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Nov 11, 2003

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I like playing casino games for fun once in awhile (particularly blackjack) -- and of course there are roughly 3 trillion different casino apps for the iTunes store.

Any reports on which one(s) are the best?

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Xarthor posted:

I like playing casino games for fun once in awhile (particularly blackjack) -- and of course there are roughly 3 trillion different casino apps for the iTunes store.

Any reports on which one(s) are the best?

Get GTA San Andreas and just hang out in Las Venturas all the time.

Mad Wack
Mar 27, 2008

"The faster you use your cooldowns, the faster you can use them again"

Lexicon posted:

I actually didn't think that worked in practice for individuals, what with the various spam detection heuristics used by Google etc. Are you saying that I could be lexicon@goon.com for incoming and outgoing mail (via a combination of MX records and reply-to), hosted entirely on iCloud, and with no attendant nightmare of lost mails and such?

That could be worth doing, if so.

Yeah dude it works fine - I've been doing it for years. Also I actually do have an outgoing mail server at my domain. So it literally comes from my domain with the correct reply-to. Gmail supports this in the settings.

caboodle
Oct 28, 2009

slogsdon posted:

Yep, let me just right on giving a poo poo about the orientation of a loving phone video.

I give a poo poo when I see their stupid portait videos on YT.

keevo
Jun 16, 2011

:burger:WAKE UP:burger:

spongeworthy posted:

Does Apple Maps work with Bluetooth in your vehicle? Both Google maps and Mapquest will utilize my BT connection and play through the speaker but stock maps won't at all.

Mine turns off the radio completely when dictating directions or if Siri/microphone is activated on BT..

Yeah, Apple Maps works fine with Bluetooth. When I last tried it (months ago) I remember it giving me weird directions, so I decided to just use Google Maps. I'll probably try it again and see how it is.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

I used Fantastical for a bit, but iOS 7.1 beta greatly improves Calendar's usability. I still like Fantastical's integration of Reminders, but I'm back to using Calendar most of the time.

I expect that iOS 7.1 will resolve a lot of people's complaints about Calendar's changes in iOS 7.

By reminders do you mean the app badge for the remaining events in your day? Because I also love that.

spongeworthy
Jan 16, 2009

keevo posted:

Yeah, Apple Maps works fine with Bluetooth. When I last tried it (months ago) I remember it giving me weird directions, so I decided to just use Google Maps. I'll probably try it again and see how it is.

I can't get it to work through BT for the life of me. And it often tells me North when it means South, East for West, etc.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose!

Lexicon posted:

I actually didn't think that worked in practice for individuals, what with the various spam detection heuristics used by Google etc. Are you saying that I could be lexicon@goon.com for incoming and outgoing mail (via a combination of MX records and reply-to), hosted entirely on iCloud, and with no attendant nightmare of lost mails and such?

That could be worth doing, if so.

I've done it before using a combination of forwarding and sending through my own smtp server and setting my reply-to address. As far as I can tell these are indistinguishable to anyone who isn't looking through the headers to see the source ip address. Something you might want to play with. I don't think it was ever meant for this though, and I don't do it currently. I feel that having a local copy of my emails through mail.app is enough control over my email for me. If I ever decide to go back to google, it's a quick enough process to change the forwarding etc.

ZShakespeare fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Jan 16, 2014

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Mad Wack posted:

Yeah dude it works fine - I've been doing it for years. Also I actually do have an outgoing mail server at my domain. So it literally comes from my domain with the correct reply-to. Gmail supports this in the settings.

He's talking about iCloud, not Gmail.

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx

caboodle posted:

I give a poo poo when I see their stupid portait videos on YT.

I'm also a small child in an adult's body, agreed.

ICHIBAHN
Feb 21, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Can you configure the gmail app to open in Safari?

CygnusTM
Oct 11, 2002

ICHIBAHN posted:

Can you configure the gmail app to open in Safari?
Not directly, apparently. You can disable the link to Chrome, which makes it open in an in-app browser. You can open it in Safari from there.

Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
is there a built in function or app to allow me schedule ringer off/vibrate on during certain hours/days? I know there is do not disturb but I want it to still vibrate, not be completely silent.


Also, has anyone used any of the sleep tracker applications? I am really curious but I:

1) don't want to waste money/time on a gimmick.

2) I am kinda paranoid about keeping the phone directly under my brain every night. I don't think its dangerous but I'd hate to end up like those people that licked glow in the dark paint for 20 years.

Thirst Mutilator
Dec 13, 2008

Xguard86 posted:

is there a built in function or app to allow me schedule ringer off/vibrate on during certain hours/days? I know there is do not disturb but I want it to still vibrate, not be completely silent.


Also, has anyone used any of the sleep tracker applications? I am really curious but I:

1) don't want to waste money/time on a gimmick.

2) I am kinda paranoid about keeping the phone directly under my brain every night. I don't think its dangerous but I'd hate to end up like those people that licked glow in the dark paint for 20 years.

Pretty sure Sleep Cycle is free (EDIT: Not free, I'm just dumb), tracks body movements, and can be on the edge of your bed instead of next to/under your brain. Also claims to be smart about waking you up at the end of REM cycles.

Regarding your scheduling question: in short, no, not without jailbreaking unfortunately

Thirst Mutilator fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Jan 16, 2014

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Thirst Mutilator posted:

Pretty sure Sleep Cycle is free, tracks body movements, and can be on the edge of your bed instead of next to/under your brain. Also claims to be smart about waking you up at the end of REM cycles.

But it's not. :downs:

It's pretty much the goon standard for alarm clock apps and it is pretty great as an alarm clock, but it's nowhere near as awesome as the app description claims. You set a wake up time, set how long a window ahead of that you are willing to tolerate, and it does the exact same wake up sequence every morning. That said, as a data logger it's pretty good. The graphs are fun to study and you'll start to notice patterns after a few weeks. Not sure what that information is good for other than satisfying your inner nerd.

The latest version added the ability to measure your heart rate when you wake up which is kind of fidgety to get an actual reading but once you do it seems fairly accurate.

Thirst Mutilator
Dec 13, 2008

xzzy posted:

But it's not. :downs:

Whoops :(

DarkJC
Jul 6, 2010
I'm not sure that's entirely true. Give it a wide enough time and it seems to do its job, at least according to the graphs. Back when I used it regularly I gave it a 1 hour window and it definitely wasn't the same wake up time every day. 30 minutes might just be too small for it to vary much.

snickles
Mar 27, 2010
I've been (sort of) using mealboard to plan grocery shopping and it's pretty cool.

Is there some similar app without the food focus, something I could use to track household purchases? Like how many lightbulbs I need and which kind, what batteries we regularly use, etc. I use notes for this sort of thing now but it feels like someone ought to have a better method.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

DarkJC posted:

I'm not sure that's entirely true. Give it a wide enough time and it seems to do its job, at least according to the graphs. Back when I used it regularly I gave it a 1 hour window and it definitely wasn't the same wake up time every day. 30 minutes might just be too small for it to vary much.

Interesting, I'll have to give it a try. The app gives 30 minutes as recommended so I just never changed it off the default.

DarkJC
Jul 6, 2010
I will add the caveat that it's been probably 6 or 7 months since I used it regularly, so before iOS 7 days. Not sure if they've made any significant changes to their algorithm since. It's more inconvenient for me to have it plugged in while on the mattress now so I fell out of the routine.

wyoak
Feb 14, 2005

a glass case of emotion

Fallen Rib
I've been using it a ton lately, and it seems to work pretty well, the times do seem to vary according to when I'm rolling around. The wake up sounds are nice too.

Edit: I also love that snooze is just "pick up and drop the phone"

wyoak fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jan 17, 2014

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Xguard86
Nov 22, 2004

"You don't understand his pain. Everywhere he goes he sees women working, wearing pants, speaking in gatherings, voting. Surely they will burn in the white hot flames of Hell"
Hmm well I'll give it a try. Does it matter I have a temperpedic mattress? Will it still feel me rolling around?

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