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I haven't heard much of Jerry Brown's new state budget besides "What a true leader!" or "He's going to pay off our debt!".
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Here's to nonpartisan redistricting and democratic supermajorities. 
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Jan 17, 2014 01:22
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article posted:The state also has been adding jobs at one of the fastest rates in the nation since the recovery from the recession began, led by the technology sector. But...but all those politicians kept saying that all the businesses were leaving California to go to Texas! The whole "everyone's leaving CA in droves" meme angers me greatly for some reason. I think just because I love it here so much that the idea that anyone would leave this state is completely alien to me. Also because it's not true in the slightest. ETA: Hahaha, from the same article at the end: quote:"We're seeing people literally get a U-haul and leave California, and he's spending money like it's 1999," said Assembly Tim Donnelly, who lives in the San Bernardino Mountain community of Twin Peaks.  "literally get a U-haul"
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Jan 17, 2014 01:23
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How long does it take to drive up the Pacific Coast highway from LA to SF? I want to drive up it some time.
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Jan 17, 2014 01:38
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WampaLord posted:But...but all those politicians kept saying that all the businesses were leaving California to go to Texas! Well I think we had quite a bit of domestic migration out of the state during the 2000s (read: before Brown's election and the Democratic supermajorities). It's like Republicans' perceptions of California are stuck in the last decade, although you'll always get some businessman whinging about how "it's sooooooooo expensive to do business now, I think I'll head to Texas  "
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Jan 17, 2014 01:38
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keevo posted:How long does it take to drive up the Pacific Coast highway from LA to SF? I want to drive up it some time. Probably around 8 hours of driving at least. Also, Big Sur is boring after dark so plan accordingly.
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Jan 17, 2014 01:43
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Well I think we had quite a bit of domestic migration out of the state during the 2000s (read: before Brown's election and the Democratic supermajorities). That makes sense, I moved here in 2011, so I haven't seen any sort of mass migration happening but Republicans keep acting like it never stopped or even worse, they're acting like it's picking up speed. It also makes a lot of sense that their information is outdated and that they refuse to acknowledge reality, but that's the  for ya.
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Jan 17, 2014 01:44
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Trabisnikof posted:Probably around 8 hours of driving at least. Also, Big Sur is boring after dark so plan accordingly. That said hitting Big Sur in the late afternoon, seeing the sun set, and getting dinner in Monterrey should be required before you can be called human.
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Jan 17, 2014 01:48
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WampaLord posted:That makes sense, I moved here in 2011, so I haven't seen any sort of mass migration happening but Republicans keep acting like it never stopped or even worse, they're acting like it's picking up speed. Well, the GOP wouldn't be the GOP if they weren't stuck in the past and if they didn't think that conservatism can't fail, it can only be failed, and that California is rotting because it turned Democratic 
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Jan 17, 2014 01:51
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Trabisnikof posted:Probably around 8 hours of driving at least. Also, Big Sur is boring after dark so plan accordingly. Eight or nine hours may be possible if you have the road to yourself and drive as fast as possible for the conditions. Given the long stretches where you can't pass slow-moving sightseers, at least 10 hours nonstop is more realistic. If you are a slow-moving sightseer then it will be a lot longer.
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Jan 17, 2014 01:59
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It is a long, torturously slow motherfucking drive. Don't do it at night, the only purpose is the view.
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Jan 17, 2014 02:26
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withak posted:Eight or nine hours may be possible if you have the road to yourself and drive as fast as possible for the conditions. Given the long stretches where you can't pass slow-moving sightseers, at least 10 hours nonstop is more realistic. If you are a slow-moving sightseer then it will be a lot longer. drat so it's basically going to be a 12-13 hour drive for me because I'm in San Diego.
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Jan 17, 2014 02:45
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withak posted:Eight or nine hours may be possible if you have the road to yourself and drive as fast as possible for the conditions. Given the long stretches where you can't pass slow-moving sightseers, at least 10 hours nonstop is more realistic. If you are a slow-moving sightseer then it will be a lot longer. Yeah, I think I was kinda excluding time spent in SF or LA traffic in my head too.
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Jan 17, 2014 02:47
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To drive like half the length of the continent on a very slow, twisty two-lane road, it will take some time, yes.
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Jan 17, 2014 03:15
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There's no point just getting in your car and doing the drive without stopping. The pacific coast is gorgeous and the drive is great in part because of all the places to stop. Do some sightseeing, comb a beach or three, stop in some of the small towns for food or an art gallery or two or just to hang out. Definitely stop in Monterey and Santa Cruz. If you have more time, also check out Salinas (which is where super-rich people live, but it's still nice to wander around a bit) and Big Sur (go for a hike). Probably there's other things south of Big Sur but I'm not familiar with that part of the coast. Personally I would want to spend three days doing LA to san francisco, staying at a nice B&B for the two nights of the trip. CPColin posted:I posted about one on this very page. Sadly, nobody cares (or is going to get worked up over) a shift in control of spending for agricultural education from the state to the local level. Nobody cares about agriculture classes in general, really, and if you care about education spending, there's far, far bigger problems: namely the billions that have been cut from state university budgets, massive increases in tuition, and all the problems with inequality among different local elementary school district budgets (just to name a few). Jerry Manderbilt posted:I haven't heard much of Jerry Brown's new state budget besides "What a true leader!" or "He's going to pay off our debt!". On the one hand, I think he's right that we had structural budget issues that we haven't really solved (we're just escaping them due to recoveries in unemployment and in real estate values). On the other hand, we've slashed public education funding for a couple of decades straight, and if we don't restore some of that, we can kiss goodbye what's left of the world-renowned and universally-lauded california public university system. Jerry Manderbilt posted:Well, the GOP wouldn't be the GOP if they weren't stuck in the past and if they didn't think that conservatism can't fail, it can only be failed, and that California is rotting because it turned Democratic California's population is growing. In fact it's been growing continuously since we stole it from Mexico. It's still growing today. The problem that the GOP is afraid to actually say out loud is that California's non-white populations are providing that growth, e.g., white republican men are being increasingly marginalized in favor of nonwhite, mostly non-republican voters. Saying "all the employers are going to texas" is just code which the Base knows actually means "immigrants are stealing our jobs," and/or "we hate taxes," both being refrains that the Republican party can't ever stop singing. Personally, I'm happy to see whatever businesses hate paying taxes and prefer Texas to take a hike. We've got growing sectors in high-tech jobs and that's the kind of work that brings wealth, prosperity, higher wages, and higher standards of living to our state.
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Jan 17, 2014 03:17
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Leperflesh posted:Probably there's other things south of Big Sur but I'm not familiar with that part of the coast. Paso Robles/Avila Beach/Morro Bay/that whole area is a wine/food region There are zen/hippie geothermal nekkid hot spring tubs at Esalen in Big Sure and Sycamore Springs in S.L.O. Santa Barbara is rad for Mediterranean beach resort stuff and sightseeing 30million$ mansions Ventura if you are into surfing There's also seals along the coast and on the off-shore islands
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Jan 17, 2014 04:02
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A lot of my UCSB friends really like Solvang (a little Danish town north of Santa Barbara and then east on 246, on another note.
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Jan 17, 2014 04:08
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I *guess* you can say that the added jobs are "due to the technology sector". I mean, all those new-money millionaires need SOMEONE to mow their lawns and wrap their burritos. Saw an article today about how half the cab drivers in San Francisco have quit their jobs and signed up with Uber. I'm actually kind of amused by this whole thing. One the one hand you have rear end in a top hat government people who've regulated the taxi business to a degree that would make Stalin envious; on the other hand you've got assholes who think that "I made a message board where people can ask for a ride" means they're the next Steve Jobs. Whoever loses, I win.
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Jan 17, 2014 04:14
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The taxi industry is all for those regulations. They want the number of cabs kept a lot lower than demand.
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Jan 17, 2014 04:23
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Trabisnikof posted:Yeah, I think I was kinda excluding time spent in ... LA traffic Yeah never do this to a poor foreigner. Stop in Monterey for white sand beaches, and Santa Cruz for cliff/cove beaches. e: beaten Dont stop in Salinas, thats a mean joke. The 1 looks best between Ventura and Santa Barbara counties, and then again from Big Sur to SC. Make sure and drive through Moss Landing on the way into SC.
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Jan 17, 2014 05:57
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When I drove that stretch, I stopped at all those spots, and I also stopped at unmarked stretches of roadside where it looked like I could climb down a cliff and be overwhelmed by natural beauty. It took me a few days. I like cliffs. e: my point is it's one of the more incredible places in the world and you shouldn't ask how long it takes, but how long you can spend Doc Hawkins fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Jan 17, 2014 |
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Jan 17, 2014 06:51
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FRINGE posted:Dont stop in Salinas, thats a mean joke. Unless you want some delicious Mexican food, in which case you should absolutely stop.
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VagueRant posted:I'm going to California (from the UK) soon and I was wondering if people have recommendations on what I should do there. I'm definitely going to LA, but I'm almost certainly going to visit San Francisco and San Diego. If you do drive up the PCH there's a stretch of the PCH that isn't actually on the Coast, the part that goes through Oxnard and into Ventura. If you're driving up that way and you're interested in automobiles from the 1920's and 1930's then swing by the Mullin Automotive Museum. There's also the Shooters Paradise gun range. We also house a Fry's Electronics: each store has it's own unique theme and ours is
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Jan 17, 2014 07:11
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Also if you happen to drive through Pismo Beach/SLO, you need to stop and eat at Splash Cafe. Clam chowder in a bread bowl is the standard order, or if you're like me and not a seafood person, the chili breadbowl is decent, and the hamburgers and curly fries are also pretty great. I consider that place another California institution.
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Jan 17, 2014 08:21
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Miss-Bomarc posted:I *guess* you can say that the added jobs are "due to the technology sector". I mean, all those new-money millionaires need SOMEONE to mow their lawns and wrap their burritos. So do the Wal-Mart owners in Arkansas, but I don't see how that is germane to the discussion?
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Jan 17, 2014 09:53
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What we're all getting at is that you should get out of the 3 big cities as quickly and for as long a time as possible if you want to see why California is the best state in the Union.
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Jan 17, 2014 10:01
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Pook Good Mook posted:What we're all getting at is that you should get out of the 3 big cities as quickly and for as long a time as possible if you want to see why California is the best state in the Union. There's a 3rd big city?
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Jan 17, 2014 10:02
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RandomPauI posted:If you do drive up the PCH there's a stretch of the PCH that isn't actually on the Coast, the part that goes through Oxnard ... We also house ...
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Jan 17, 2014 10:06
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Trabisnikof posted:There's a 3rd big city? San Diego. Fun fact: actually the second largest city in the state.
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Jan 17, 2014 10:28
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Pook Good Mook posted:What we're all getting at is that you should get out of the 3 big cities as quickly and for as long a time as possible if you want to see why California is the best state in the Union. Just stay out of the inland empire. Nothing ever happens in the inland empire.
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Jan 17, 2014 10:56
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FRINGE posted:Lol. The Colonia Chiques. We're one of the safest nations in the US per-capita. On that note, we only had like a dozen gun-deaths last year and we went an entire year without a cop accidentally killing someone. I'm sure someday we'll be known for things that aren't sad or [url=]http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2012/03/07/teacher-moonlighting-as-a-porn-star-oxnard-school-district-investigates-every-schoolboys-fantasy]embarrassing.[/url] no we won't.
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Jan 17, 2014 11:18
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RabbitMage posted:Also if you happen to drive through Pismo Beach/SLO, you need to stop and eat at Splash Cafe. Clam chowder in a bread bowl is the standard order, or if you're like me and not a seafood person, the chili breadbowl is decent, and the hamburgers and curly fries are also pretty great. I consider that place another California institution. Among the three locations, the one in downtown SLO is far and away the relative worst. Go for the original in Pismo.
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Jan 17, 2014 16:52
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It's official: Gov. Brown declared a drought in CA, asks for 20% water use reduction (already mandatory in Sacramento) Group Shower Goonmeets anyone?
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Jan 17, 2014 19:41
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How do you make a percent reduction mandatory? Wouldn't it be better to use rationing or apply a huge rate hike for usage above some minimum based on your household size? Someone who takes 10-minute showers and doesn't have a car to wash, a lawn to water, or a pool to fill is basically doing all that they can. I propose some kind of public shaming mechanism for anyone with a green lawn.
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Jan 17, 2014 19:48
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withak posted:How do you make a percent reduction mandatory? Wouldn't it be better to use rationing or apply a huge rate hike for usage above some minimum based on your household size? I'm pretty sure you functionally described the same things. You make a precent reduction mandatory by looking at the meter and applying a huge rate hike in terms of a "fine". You "ration" water by only letting people use less than they normally would, and punish those that don't. If the complain is with the 20%, imagine how difficult the formula to determine a gallon per customer allotment would become. Sure you could sa houses maybe get X (hope you don't live with a bunch of people) and industrial clients probably do have water restriction plans already; but how many gallons does a bank need versus a restaurant or a yoga studio? What if it is a hot yoga studio? What about hospitals? Should they get a gallons per bed formula or should the number of surgery rooms be factored in? Instead its a lot easier to say "everyone make the same ratio of sacrifice please". Edit: not to say anyone is actually going to get in trouble in Sacramento...yet.
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Jan 17, 2014 20:01
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It isn't the same sacrifice though. Someone who waters their lawn every day and washes their car once a week can probably cut a lot more than 20% with ease. Someone who lives in an apartment, doesn't have a car, and already pays attention to water conservation is going to have to actually make some kind of lifestyle change to cut 20%. I think last time this came up someone pointed out that the local golf course probably leaks more water than any of us use anyway.
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Jan 17, 2014 20:16
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withak posted:It isn't the same sacrifice though. Someone who waters their lawn every day and washes their car once a week can probably cut a lot more than 20% with ease. Someone who lives in an apartment, doesn't have a car, and already pays attention to water conservation is going to have to actually make some kind of lifestyle change to cut 20%. Sacramento has already severely restricted outdoor watering and banned washing sidewalks and driveways. Car washing is only allowed with buckets. The 20% reduction is now stage 2. And, a significant reduction in water can be had through reducing shower times and washing clothes less frequently. Both don't require much of a lifestyle change.
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Joke's on you California, I haven't watered my lawn in MONTHS.
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Jan 17, 2014 20:30
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All the sprinklers at my apartment complex are broken, so I turned them off months ago!
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Forceholy posted:Just stay out of the inland empire. Nothing ever happens in the inland empire. Meth and crime happens.
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