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GuestBob
Nov 27, 2005


At least we brought cricket.

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Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

I like that he says the Chinese guy told him it would definitely happen. Rings alarm bells for me immediately.

Also LOL at a station larger than the town it's supposed to link to. That's definitely Chinese characteristics.

GuestBob
Nov 27, 2005

Laos is going to become a AAAAA rated tourist attraction complete with Hui people leading around drugged camels.

I wonder if China's crazy rear end assertion of control over economic activity in the South China Sea is a bargaining tool here: buy our railway with your money or we'll continue to throw a tantrum about where you can fish.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

GuestBob posted:

buy our railway with your money and we'll continue to throw a tantrum about where you can fish.

Ftfy

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
Today I met with my boss and was told that, because no other previous teacher had complained that they had not been paid their overtime, there was no problem. I then explained I simply wanted to be paid. The conversation went in circles until my boss asked me "when does your visa expire".

What the gently caress do I do, goons? These people owe me nigh on 10,000 kuai come saturday, overtime and salary. If they don't pay me and sack me instead I am literally up the river without a paddle and can't even afford a new place to stay.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Ceciltron posted:

Today I met with my boss and was told that, because no other previous teacher had complained that they had not been paid their overtime, there was no problem. I then explained I simply wanted to be paid. The conversation went in circles until my boss asked me "when does your visa expire".

What the gently caress do I do, goons? These people owe me nigh on 10,000 kuai come saturday, overtime and salary. If they don't pay me and sack me instead I am literally up the river without a paddle and can't even afford a new place to stay.

I still don't think it's clear from what you've said if you are actually entitled to overtime pay or not, legally.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

MeramJert posted:

I still don't think it's clear from what you've said if you are actually entitled to overtime pay or not, legally.

I am. What my boss made clear was that she didn't care what my contract says and that "this is how we do things". Payment is based on custom and tradition, rather than contract and requirement.

blinkyzero
Oct 15, 2012

Ceciltron posted:

Today I met with my boss and was told that, because no other previous teacher had complained that they had not been paid their overtime, there was no problem. I then explained I simply wanted to be paid. The conversation went in circles until my boss asked me "when does your visa expire".

What the gently caress do I do, goons? These people owe me nigh on 10,000 kuai come saturday, overtime and salary. If they don't pay me and sack me instead I am literally up the river without a paddle and can't even afford a new place to stay.

My prognostication: you'd better find that poutine quickly because you're going to need it more as a lubricant than as a tasty treat.

Fall Sick and Die
Nov 22, 2003
Call the police. This woman is stealing from you. Whether it's your boss or not, get your Chinese girlfriend to call the cops and have the boss frogmarched off during the middle of school. Your contract is registered with the police, so they have to enforce it. If they're going to get rid of you and not pay you then you may as well take down this corrupt organization from the inside. Take pictures when your boss is arrested and post them here. Time for a little justice, American style

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Ceciltron posted:

Payment is based on custom and tradition, rather than contract and requirement.

Welcome to China.

GuestBob
Nov 27, 2005

Ceciltron posted:

Today I met with my boss and was told that, because no other previous teacher had complained that they had not been paid their overtime, there was no problem. I then explained I simply wanted to be paid. The conversation went in circles until my boss asked me "when does your visa expire".

PM sent.

Aero737
Apr 30, 2006

Ceciltron posted:

Today I met with my boss and was told that, because no other previous teacher had complained that they had not been paid their overtime, there was no problem. I then explained I simply wanted to be paid. The conversation went in circles until my boss asked me "when does your visa expire".

What the gently caress do I do, goons? These people owe me nigh on 10,000 kuai come saturday, overtime and salary. If they don't pay me and sack me instead I am literally up the river without a paddle and can't even afford a new place to stay.

Is your visa through that company? Careful, a lot of schools issue visas through agencies which makes your contact technically null and void. You could sue them, but that's a long drawn out process that no foreigner can navigate. The police will do nothing, they will tell you to sue them.

Source: I worked for a lovely school which issued my visa through an agency, and then extorted me for 2000 for my release letter at the end of my contract. Police in Beijing told me I had to sue to do anything about it.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Aero737 posted:

Source: I worked for a lovely school which issued my visa through an agency, and then extorted me for 2000 for my release letter at the end of my contract. Police in Beijing told me I had to sue to do anything about it.

And what happens if your visa expires and you can't get another one right away while you are suing?

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Aero737 posted:

Is your visa through that company? Careful, a lot of schools issue visas through agencies which makes your contact technically null and void. You could sue them, but that's a long drawn out process that no foreigner can navigate. The police will do nothing, they will tell you to sue them.

Source: I worked for a lovely school which issued my visa through an agency, and then extorted me for 2000 for my release letter at the end of my contract. Police in Beijing told me I had to sue to do anything about it.

I was hired through a recruiter, and as far as I know, they handled the visa stuff. All my RP stuff was done with me in person, my boss bringing me around in tow. I have no clue, I guess.

Fall Sick and Die
Nov 22, 2003
Hit a student at your school and take a video. If the parents find out that teachers are hitting students, they'll all leave the school and it will be ruined. Use the video to blackmail the school. Tell them that if you don't get what you want, you will release the video and ruin their school completely. Don't let these shifty fucks put one over on you. Two can play at this game...

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Fall Sick and Die posted:

Hit a student at your school and take a video. If the parents find out that teachers are hitting students, they'll all leave the school and it will be ruined. Use the video to blackmail the school. Tell them that if you don't get what you want, you will release the video and ruin their school completely. Don't let these shifty fucks put one over on you. Two can play at this game...

This is unironically a good idea.

Donraj
May 7, 2007

by Ralp

Ceciltron posted:

I am. What my boss made clear was that she didn't care what my contract says and that "this is how we do things". Payment is based on custom and tradition, rather than contract and requirement.

Yeah, suddenly really glad I skipped out on that job in Harbin at the last minute.

You did say you were working at a Joy school, right?

blinkyzero
Oct 15, 2012

MeramJert posted:

This is unironically a good idea.

Except for the part requiring you to physically abuse a student...

Though if you can get one to act it out with you convincingly, it would be a nice ace in the hole. Tell the kid's parents you have a way to lower their tuition costs at the school...

TheBuilder
Jul 11, 2001
Buy a knockoff AK from a snakehead and start a hostage crisis in the school break room. Or you could just chalk it up as "alas, China"

Deep State of Mind
Jul 30, 2006

"It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."
Fun Shoe
My favorite thing is still Cuatal getting a lawyer to send a letter. Do that.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

FSAD knows what's up.

GuestBob
Nov 27, 2005

MeramJert posted:

FSAD knows what's up.

Until your employer double bluffs and pays one of the students and their family to accuse you of molesting them (all of them, uncles included). Then what are you going to do?

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

GuestBob posted:

Until your employer double bluffs and pays one of the students and their family to accuse you of molesting them (all of them, uncles included). Then what are you going to do?

I don't know, let's wait to see what FSAD says.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Donraj posted:

Yeah, suddenly really glad I skipped out on that job in Harbin at the last minute.

You did say you were working at a Joy school, right?

Yup. Hulan/Schwangchung[sic?]/Limin branches.

Since Joy's a franchise I have no idea how this plays out elsewhere, but well, it can't be much better if this is what's a standard.

Fall Sick and Die
Nov 22, 2003

GuestBob posted:

Until your employer double bluffs and pays one of the students and their family to accuse you of molesting them (all of them, uncles included). Then what are you going to do?

Sorry but this is a completely unbelievable scenario. I'm sorry that you don't understand Chinese culture. If someone is molested or raped the correct response is to blame them and send them to their grandparents' hometown forever so as to not bring shame upon your family. I know that you were making a "joke" however, let's try to stay grounded in reality. A joke isn't funny if it isn't believable. For example that's why British comedy isn't funny, most of the things people say would never happen in reality.

One thing I'd ask of you Ceciltron is, do you carry an e-tool (entrenching tool) with you when you go about your business in China? If not, would you be able to get one? Check out taobao -> http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.8.s0hHSZ&id=36180773053

bad day
Mar 26, 2012

by VideoGames
I'm pretty sure Pro-Prc keeps one in his trench coat at all times.

Next to the lockpicks.

GuestBob
Nov 27, 2005

Fall Sick and Die posted:

For example that's why British comedy isn't funny, most of the things people say would never happen in reality.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/c48ad07a0b/snuff-box-boyfriend-clips-from-a5719

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Fall Sick and Die posted:

Sorry but this is a completely unbelievable scenario. I'm sorry that you don't understand Chinese culture. If someone is molested or raped the correct response is to blame them and send them to their grandparents' hometown forever so as to not bring shame upon your family. I know that you were making a "joke" however, let's try to stay grounded in reality. A joke isn't funny if it isn't believable. For example that's why British comedy isn't funny, most of the things people say would never happen in reality.

One thing I'd ask of you Ceciltron is, do you carry an e-tool (entrenching tool) with you when you go about your business in China? If not, would you be able to get one? Check out taobao -> http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.8.s0hHSZ&id=36180773053
Yes, of course, I carry a Spetsnaz folding shovel in my bag with my lesson plans at all times. It is next to my snus, fedora polishing brush and beef jerky.

Fall Sick and Die
Nov 22, 2003
OK. You need to recognize that you are now in a tactical situation, which means you need to develop what is referred to as 'situational awareness'. Every move you make will produce a reactionary move on the part of the school. How do modern generals deal with this sort of situation? By controlling the flow of information and keeping the enemy unable to utilize information themselves. You have to become completely unpredictable. If they can't make sense of what you are doing, they're unable to develop a strategy to deal with you. That means you now have the upper hand. Allow me to give you some examples, with the correct responses bolded to make it easier for you to see them.

Example #1: The school has asked you to teach a class about vegetables.
Incorrect Response: You teach a class about vegetables. At the end of the lesson, the children understand and can correctly pronounce 8 vegetables in English, fulfilling the school's desires. Victory: The School
Correct Response: You teach a class about vegetables in Old English. You are technically fulfilling the contract by teaching an 'English' class and you can not be blamed that the contract did not state clearly which form of English should be utilized in your classes. While you are technically fulfilling the details of your contract you are frustrating them in a way they'll be completely unequipped to handle. You have gained the upper hand. Victory: Ceciltron

Example #2: The school would like you to work on an evening which you are normally not scheduled to work upon.
Incorrect Response: You rearrange your schedule and arrive at work on the aforementioned evening, teaching a class to the best of your ability. Victory: The School
Correct Response: Utilizing your entrenching tool, you arrive in class and begin to pull up the carpet. If the teachers ask you what you're doing, simply continue removing the carpeting in the classroom and do not respond to them in any way. Continue until the carpeting is entirely split from the floor. When it has been successfully separated, roll it up and place it in a prominent place in the front of the classroom. Proceed to teach the class as if nothing had happened. If any student approaches you in regards to or attempts to speak about the carpet, remove one star from their name on the board. Victory: Ceciltron

Example number two will work because Chinese people have no knowledge of Latin. You can merely claim that your contract has an unwritten "Carpetum absque" clause.

Fall Sick and Die fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Jan 17, 2014

bad day
Mar 26, 2012

by VideoGames

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Fall sick and die is the true chairman of China. Truly grasping capitalism with socialist Chinese characteristics.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Does anyone have actually good advice except quit your job?

GuestBob
Nov 27, 2005

Arglebargle III posted:

Does anyone have actually good advice except quit your job?


People often find unsolicited pictures of my penis to be very helpful when quitting their job.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
Guestbob's penis and amusing genital topiary have gotten me through a hard couple of days.

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

Aero737
Apr 30, 2006

VideoTapir posted:

And what happens if your visa expires and you can't get another one right away while you are suing?

That's why they get away with it. I had no time to try and sue them.

Also, don't hit kids and make a video. You'll become the next scapegoat anytime there is a problem in China. Just like that guy who hit the lady on his motorcycle, the "rape guy" in Beijing, etc..

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009
wo jiji hen da

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

:thumbsup:

Arakan
May 10, 2008

After some persuasion, Fluttershy finally opens up, and Twilight's more than happy to oblige in doing her best performance as a nice, obedient wolf-puppy.

庞然大物

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bad day
Mar 26, 2012

by VideoGames
你们的鸡巴多太小

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