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Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Quest For Glory II posted:

I'm sure Chip wants Dion because quack quack quack. The Eagles are expected to ship Curry out, and I'm not sure about Trent Cole's fate right now. So it's an issue. But one I expect them to address in the spring.

Cole played well in the second half of the year, but Philly.com thinks he's good as gone, so I dunno.

Dion would be great for you guys but you can't have him he's ours

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sirtommygunn
Mar 7, 2013



What would you even offer a team for a guy they spent their 1st and 2nd round picks on just one year after he was drafted?

Wait poo poo that applies to Trent Richardson too doesn't it?

Gotta Wear Shades
Jul 25, 2013

Learn to hoist a jack,
Learn to lay a track
Learn to pick and shovel too
And take my hammer, it'll do anything you tell it to
Which QB in the draft do you think Norv most wants to see land in Minnesota?

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*
Bridgewater. He's the most teachable by a mile.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002

sirtommygunn posted:

What would you even offer a team for a guy they spent their 1st and 2nd round picks on just one year after he was drafted?

Wait poo poo that applies to Trent Richardson too doesn't it?

Every ounce of speculation is that it'd be for their first round pick

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*

Doltos posted:

Darkforce898 made this for us:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlKG-aCJD3VxdDRGT2EtV3NxNWZWOF9iVWVTY0RxMlE&usp=sharing#gid=0

Editable by anyone viewing it so we can start slotting in players. Try to keep the format correct if you have to add another row.

He also whipped this up:



In case anyone was unaware, this is awesome. Good job team.

dont hate the playa
May 12, 2009
If both Matthews and Clowney are gone at six I could see Atlanta possibly trading down with a qb needy team. Then again I also see them giving away the rest of their picks to go up to get Clowney so who knows.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves
If the Falcons want to give away another draft for Clowney I wouldn't mind the Texans taking their first, second, and next year's first :shobon: One of Bridgewater, Manziel, Bortles, Barr or Mack would still be there at 6

(Yes I realize I'm asking for way too much)

PrinceRandom
Feb 26, 2013

Intruder posted:

If the Falcons want to give away another draft for Clowney I wouldn't mind the Texans taking their first, second, and next year's first :shobon: One of Bridgewater, Manziel, Bortles, Barr or Mack would still be there at 6

(Yes I realize I'm asking for way too much)

And they would probably negotiate with the Rams first.

Sataere
Jul 20, 2005


Step 1: Start fight
Step 2: Attack straw man
Step 3: REPEAT

Do not engage with me



PrinceRandom posted:

And they would probably negotiate with the Rams first.

Probably not, since there is a very strong possibility that Clowney is going #1, what with the depth at QB this year.

Toymachine
Jul 2, 2007

Warning - Posts created under the influence of Codeine and/or Skittles

Sataere posted:

Probably not, since there is a very strong possibility that Clowney is going #1, what with the depth at QB this year.

There is a fairly large dropoff after Bridgewater, Manziel and Bortles though.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Toymachine posted:

There is a fairly large dropoff after Bridgewater, Manziel and Bortles though.

David Fales will take the NFL by storm

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

Toymachine posted:

There is a fairly large dropoff after Bridgewater, Manziel and Bortles though.

Well we haven't cut Schaub yet! :v:

Coldforge
Oct 29, 2002

I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

Alouicious posted:

David Fales will take the NFL by storm

This, but seriously.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Coldforge posted:

This, but seriously.

I am never ironic in my assessment of college quarterbacks

Sataere
Jul 20, 2005


Step 1: Start fight
Step 2: Attack straw man
Step 3: REPEAT

Do not engage with me



Toymachine posted:

There is a fairly large dropoff after Bridgewater, Manziel and Bortles though.

I suspect one of them is going to drop though. Maybe I'm an optimist, but I think teams have learned after the whole Gabbert/Ponder/Locker fiasco on reaching for quarterbacks. Especially since it is the same teams that need quarterbacks this draft. :v:

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Fales is Penningtonesque with a weaker arm and weaker decision making.

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender

Doltos posted:

Fales is Penningtonesque with a weaker arm and weaker decision making.

So what you're saying is that my grandmother has a stronger arm than Fales

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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TheChirurgeon posted:

So what you're saying is that my grandmother has a stronger arm than Fales

He drives the ball pretty well on short routes but every highlight I watched of him was him throwing little rainbows over the heads of bad FBS coverages.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Doltos posted:

Fales is Penningtonesque with a weaker arm and weaker decision making.

That name isn't great either

Blowjob Overtime
Apr 6, 2008

Steeeeriiiiiiiiike twooooooo!

Declan MacManus posted:

That name isn't great either

QB name-wise I don't think I could tolerate Minnesota going from Ponder to Fales. We need our next QB to have a name that doesn't lend itself to lovely headline puns.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

DrKennethNoisewater posted:

QB name-wise I don't think I could tolerate Minnesota going from Ponder to Fales. We need our next QB to have a name that doesn't lend itself to lovely headline puns.

Winston(s)

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

DrKennethNoisewater posted:

QB name-wise I don't think I could tolerate Minnesota going from Ponder to Fales. We need our next QB to have a name that doesn't lend itself to lovely headline puns.

I can hear the Bridge Over Troubled Water bumper music already.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Azhais posted:

I can hear the Bridge Over Troubled Water bumper music already.

Chris Berman is reading this thread and furiously scribbling down notes.

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

Next week's Senior Bowl QBs:

South squad

Derek Carr
David Fales
Jimmy Garoppolo

North squad

Stephen Morris
Tahj Boyd
Logan Thomas


I like that they divided them up by 'interesting' and 'trainwreck'

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Quest For Glory II posted:

Next week's Senior Bowl QBs:

South squad

Derek Carr
David Fales
Jimmy Garoppolo

North squad

Stephen Morris
Tahj Boyd
Logan Thomas


I like that they divided them up by 'interesting' and 'trainwreck'

That's one way to read that division, yeah

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo
Man, Senior Bowl is next week already? I've got about 6 hours of draft podcasts to catch up on then before they all switch to daily practice report shows :negative:

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Quest For Glory II posted:

Next week's Senior Bowl QBs:

South squad

Derek Carr
David Fales
Jimmy Garoppolo

North squad

Stephen Morris
Tahj Boyd
Logan Thomas


I like that they divided them up by 'interesting' and 'trainwreck'

Yeah that makes sense.

But it's good they mixed it up like that. South Squad has a lot of pocket passers that are trying to show off their arm strength while the North Squad has three tuck and runners that are trying to show off their mechanics. Boyd should tear it up against defenses like this as should Thomas. Morris will be in trouble because coaches for these teams always make their safeties play incredibly far back.

East/West Shrine Bowl QBs are:

East

Jimmy Garoppolo
Jeff Mathews
Jordan Lynch

West

Keith Wenning
Tommy Rees
Keith Price

East has some names to watch and Wenning outplayed Lynch in their matchup so that could shake up the day 3 picks.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

@JohnMiddlekauff
My sources say AJ McCarron chose not to play in the Senior Bowl (not b/c of the inj) b/c he thinks he's a top 20 pick

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Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Quest For Glory II posted:

Next week's Senior Bowl QBs:

South squad

Derek Carr
David Fales
Jimmy Garoppolo

North squad

Stephen Morris
Tahj Boyd
Logan Thomas


I like that they divided them up by 'interesting' and 'trainwreck'

Are you sure you're not mixing them up? I feel like Clemson, Miami and Virginia are south of Fresno and San Jose.

darkforce898
Sep 11, 2007

Ozu posted:

@JohnMiddlekauff
My sources say AJ McCarron chose not to play in the Senior Bowl (not b/c of the inj) b/c he thinks he's a top 20 pick

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I'll take 'How to make yourself not a top 20 pick' for $200 Alex.

Not that he was before.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves
I hope he's in the green room

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president
I'd laugh, but some team always picks an unexpected QB super high

Blitz of 404 Error fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jan 17, 2014

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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You gotta look at this from the prospects perspective. He was a proven starter at arguably the best football college in America for four years. He's probably got a ton of people telling him he's for sure a first rounder and that teams would be crazy to pass on him.

Ryan Tannehill proved to me that CFB athletes probably don't view the NFL like we do. He didn't even know most of the teams in the NFL or the division they played in.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Blitz7x posted:

I'd laugh, but some team always picks an unexpected QB super high

AJ McCarron is not that guy

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Declan MacManus posted:

AJ McCarron is not that guy

Counterpoint EJ Manuel.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

Dexo posted:

Counterpoint EJ Manuel.

Counter counterpoint, he was the first QB taken in one of the worst QB drafts probably ever

There are at least six guys who probably come off the board before McCarron

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*
On the other hand Google exists. It wouldn't take much clicking to find out that the general perception of McCarron's stock is really very not good.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Intruder posted:

Counter counterpoint, he was the first QB taken in one of the worst QB drafts probably ever

There are at least six guys who probably come off the board before McCarron

Counter counter counterpoint, EJ Manuel was actually quite good coming out and his game tape looked a hell of a lot better than Geno Smith's. He's also an incredibly underrated athlete as he beat or came in second to Geno on pretty much every drill.

AJ also has a real chance at the first round because we've only just began the process. Not attending the senior bowl does not have as much of an impact on a prospect as you all may think it does.

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Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Intruder posted:

Counter counterpoint, he was the first QB taken in one of the worst QB drafts probably ever

There are at least six guys who probably come off the board before McCarron

So are we just collectively ignoring the year 2002.

quote:

1 1 David Carr QB Fresno State Houston Texans
1 3 Joey Harrington QB Oregon Detroit Lions
1 32 Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane Washington Redskins
3 81 Josh McCown QB Sam Houston State Arizona Cardinals
4 108 David Garrard QB East Carolina Jacksonville Jaguars
4 117 Rohan Davey QB Louisiana State New England Patriots
5 137 Randy Fasani QB Stanford Carolina Panthers
5 158 Kurt Kittner QB Illinois Atlanta Falcons
5 163 Brandon Doman QB Brigham Young San Francisco 49ers
5 164 Craig Nall QB Northwestern State-Louisiana Green Bay Packers
6 186 J.T. O'Sullivan QB California-Davis New Orleans Saints
7 216 Seth Burford QB Cal Poly-S.L.O. San Diego Chargers
7 232 Jeff Kelly QB Southern Mississippi Seattle Seahawks
7 235 Ronald Curry QB North Carolina Oakland Raiders
7 236 Wes Pate QB Stephen F. Austin St. Baltimore Ravens

Josh McCown or Garrard is the best loving Quarterback out of that Draft.

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