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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

redreader posted:

I watched the south park with my wife and I knew they'd say 'and then joffrey gets poisoned' which sort of sucked, but she loved the wieners song.

Goddammit now it's stuck in my head again :mad:

And yeah my girlfriend actually said something along the lines of "most of this seems pretty made-up, but the part about Joffrey getting poisoned is really plausible" and I just had to shrug non-committally.

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unlimited shrimp
Aug 30, 2008
Are the books and/or show popular in non-English speaking countries?

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

loquacius posted:

Goddammit now it's stuck in my head again :mad:

And yeah my girlfriend actually said something along the lines of "most of this seems pretty made-up, but the part about Joffrey getting poisoned is really plausible" and I just had to shrug non-committally.

To be fair 'someone's gonna murder that piece of poo poo' IS a pretty fair guess.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

bathroom sounds posted:

Are the books and/or show popular in non-English speaking countries?

They've been translated into 20 different languages, mostly European ones but also stuff like Chinese, Vietnamese, and Hebrew.

I don't know about the series, but I found a site in Chinese which had reviews for the first season and there's ~83,000 reviews, so I guess it is fairly popular.

Also the best comment from that site:

quote:

Martin, quickly write, okay?

MrBims
Sep 25, 2007

by Ralp

bathroom sounds posted:

Are the books and/or show popular in non-English speaking countries?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQrlanFyyjg

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

redreader posted:

I watched the south park with my wife and I knew they'd say 'and then joffrey gets poisoned' which sort of sucked, but she loved the wieners song.
The freakout over that was so stupid. They say that in the middle of Martin babbling about a bunch of ridiculous poo poo that doesn't happen and would be taking place long after Joffrey actually gets poisoned, implying he's still alive at that point. It is obviously nonense and would have passed over unremarked except that everyone immediately went :supaburn:SPOILERS:supaburn:

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

bathroom sounds posted:

Are the books and/or show popular in non-English speaking countries?
The books have been translated in French, Italian, Polish Dutch, German and Spanish since the end of the 90s and in Japanese and Korean since 2001-2002. Check the Japanese covers.

zocio
Nov 3, 2011

bathroom sounds posted:

Are the books and/or show popular in non-English speaking countries?

The books are pretty big in my country (Peru), but that's mostly thanks to the show.

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming

rypakal posted:

Why do you assume all the preview chapters are from Dance, or that he has even released all the chapters from Dance?

I don't assume it. I looked it up. Those are the 5 known chapters he cut from Dance/Feast.

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
To those bemoaning the jokes about the Mountain that Doesn't Write: rest assured, they are not jokes.

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

I can't wait until the show gets to Cersei's downfall because the thread is going to be nonstop misogyny debate 101.

Friendly Factory
Apr 19, 2007

I can't stand the wailing of women
Maybe the words "can't" and "wait" have different connotations in your dialect

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

fleshweasel posted:

To those bemoaning the jokes about the Mountain that Doesn't Write: rest assured, they are not jokes.

No, they're just not funny.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Midnight City posted:

I can't wait until the show gets to Cersei's downfall because the thread is going to be nonstop misogyny debate 101.

What's best is that she's actually on a trajectory to win out (at least temporarily) because Varys wants her in charge.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Alchenar posted:

What's best is that she's actually on a trajectory to win out (at least temporarily) because Varys wants her in charge.
Just imagine all the incredible stupid new plans she is going to try against the Tyrells.

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

Friendly Factory posted:

Maybe the words "can't" and "wait" have different connotations in your dialect

Unsullied thread has been pretty good so far about it, but when they reach what can only be described as GRRM purposely trolling us with a misogynist honeypot it's going to explode. A scheming bitch using sex to get power who makes rash, emotional decisions while having body issues culminating in her being stripped naked and doing a shame walk? :drat:

There's no way a mod isn't going to have to step in.

Alchenar posted:

What's best is that she's actually on a trajectory to win out (at least temporarily) because Varys wants her in charge.

True.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

Midnight City posted:

Unsullied thread has been pretty good so far about it, but when they reach what can only be described as GRRM purposely trolling us with a misogynist honeypot it's going to explode.


Yeah, and considering Hymengate pits Cersei against Margaery, it forces people to choose sides (hint: everybody's on Margaery's side).

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos
Not sure if it will play out the same in the show, the books have been considerably more subtle with Marge's character, the show went full littlefinger with her. People hate Cersei surely enough but her paranoia will appear a lot more justified in the context of the show.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I liked book Margaery better; so sweet and "innocent" whenever we see her, with her manipulations either being referenced second-hand or else masked behind her assumed good and caring nature. That is until she loses her composure with Cersai.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax
Its kinda easier to paint Margaery as good, innocent and caring when she's 16 instead of 32.

I doubt anyone would buy an oblivious Natalie Dormer.

Irish Joe fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Jan 18, 2014

GuyDudeBroMan
Jun 3, 2013

by Ralp
So the show went and took a theory that was heavily implied in the book but never actually shown or confirmed (Theon's castration) and ran with it and put the entire thing right on the show. I'm wondering if maybe they will do the same with Oberon poisoning Tywin.

If not, I'm sure they will do it with the Hound and the Monastery.

redreader
Nov 2, 2009

I am the coolest person ever with my pirate chalice. Seriously.

Dinosaur Gum

CapnAndy posted:

The freakout over that was so stupid. They say that in the middle of Martin babbling about a bunch of ridiculous poo poo that doesn't happen and would be taking place long after Joffrey actually gets poisoned, implying he's still alive at that point. It is obviously nonense and would have passed over unremarked except that everyone immediately went :supaburn:SPOILERS:supaburn:

Yeah I didn't say anything and neither did she. I hope she didn't notice.

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

GuyDudeBroMan posted:

So the show went and took a theory that was heavily implied in the book but never actually shown or confirmed (Theon's castration) and ran with it and put the entire thing right on the show. I'm wondering if maybe they will do the same with Oberon poisoning Tywin.

I doubt they will, it's a pretty subtle thing and they avoid them largely (sending regards, etc) because apparently the viewers need everything spoonfed to them. Castrating Theon is just a matter of doing it, to do the Oberyn poison thing they'd have to set up what the poison is, opportunity, etc.

Plus it ultimately doesn't even matter. I just don't see them taking the time for it.

Friendly Factory
Apr 19, 2007

I can't stand the wailing of women
I was actually wondering to myself today that they might make these subtle theory things explicit when they overtake the books and spoil us on something we could have figured out when reading and speculating. Like if Theon's castration was on screen before it was in a book.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Toplowtech posted:

Just imagine all the incredible stupid new plans she is going to try against the Tyrells.

I eagerly wait for her brilliant revenge plan of 'I'll just set my own loving head on fire, THAT'LL TEACH THEM' because I think even Cerci can't get any worse at planning revenge.

rypakal
Oct 31, 2012

He also cooks the food of his people

GuyDudeBroMan posted:

So the show went and took a theory that was heavily implied in the book but never actually shown or confirmed (Theon's castration) and ran with it and put the entire thing right on the show. I'm wondering if maybe they will do the same with Oberon poisoning Tywin.

If not, I'm sure they will do it with the Hound and the Monastery.

Theon the dickless wonder was an "unconfirmed" book theory about as much as Renly being gay was.

GuyDudeBroMan
Jun 3, 2013

by Ralp

rypakal posted:

Theon the dickless wonder was an "unconfirmed" book theory about as much as Renly being gay was.

True. But it is possible to read the books and not know Renly was gay or Theon was dickless until someone tells you and then everything clicks and it all makes sense. A lot of people were like that. It is 100% impossible to watch the show and not know Theon is dickless and Renly has 1 dick too many.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
Renly had the exact correct amount of dicks.

GuyDudeBroMan
Jun 3, 2013

by Ralp

jsoh posted:

Renly had the exact correct amount of dicks.

Imagine if the Iron Throne was made of dicks :allears:

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

GuyDudeBroMan posted:

Imagine if the Iron Throne was made of dicks :allears:

Did that porn parody come out? I remember that they had exactly that as a prop.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

GuyDudeBroMan posted:

Imagine if the Iron Throne was made of dicks :allears:

Someone needs to read Orc Stain.

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

GuyDudeBroMan posted:

If not, I'm sure they will do it with the Hound and the Monastery.

What's this theory is about?

DeepQantas
Jan 13, 2008

Ah, to be a Hero... Keeping such company...
Brienne and Pod visit a monastery and the head monk dude is like "Yea, Hound is dead, buried him myself" but then there's this mute new guy that gets along well with dogs or sth.

e: Here we go: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Gravedigger/Theories

DeepQantas fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Jan 18, 2014

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep

DeepQantas posted:

Brienne and Pod visit a monastery and the head monk dude is like "Yea, Hound is dead, buried him myself" but then there's this mute new guy that gets along well with dogs or sth.

I feel kind stupid that I never made this connection myself. Makes perfect sense.

DeepQantas
Jan 13, 2008

Ah, to be a Hero... Keeping such company...
For what it's worth, I didn't figure it out either.

AStrangeDuelist
Nov 27, 2013
Looking forward to season 4, but after I'm done with this series. Really hated the direction George took after the 3rd book, and frankly not looking forward to Dumbass!Dany, Slutty!Cersei and Dipshit!Jon.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

AStrangeDuelist posted:

Looking forward to season 4, but after I'm done with this series. Really hated the direction George took after the 3rd book, and frankly not looking forward to Dumbass!Dany, Slutty!Cersei and Dipshit!Jon.

2/3 of those have already been covered, and it sounds like you need to reread (either the series or the last two books).

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I have faith in the writers and believe that they can take the arguably weaker books, trim the fat, and translate it into good TV.

AStrangeDuelist
Nov 27, 2013

computer parts posted:

2/3 of those have already been covered, and it sounds like you need to reread (either the series or the last two books).

Which two?

Professor Shark posted:

I have faith in the writers and believe that they can take the arguably weaker books, trim the fat, and translate it into good TV.

I don't. The problems that the later books have are intrinsic to their structure; a structure which the tv show is clinging to closely for the most part.

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pigdog
Apr 23, 2004

by Smythe

AStrangeDuelist posted:

Looking forward to season 4, but after I'm done with this series.
So cute. Even though it's completely up to you, I feel safe to say that promise is empty.

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