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Every 5 points of fear increases the morale loss by 1 and dificulty of the morale check, in addition to the normal aoe increase. My fear 22 dracolich in MadPantheon thus hits 28 squares, lowering their morale by 4 and forcing a morale check vs 14 to keep fighting.
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So that means that each T-Rex at 5 fear would drop enemy morale by 1? That is pretty powerful actually.
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Pavlov posted:So that means that each T-Rex at 5 fear would drop enemy morale by 1? That is pretty powerful actually. Due to the small radius and 1 T-Rex per square you wouldn't get too much crazy overlap though. The effect is more pronounced on something like demon knights.
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Have you considered #reclimit?
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The Sharmat posted:I thought it was that the radius of the fear aura only increased per increments of 5. Not if they're making those things out of these: The one true tree. Now add a sharp, polished metal spearhead and you get something a size 6 giant could use as a weapon of mass destruction. Edit: Or better, like a weapon of tree destruction.  OK, that was bad. I'm stopping now. Libluini fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jan 18, 2014 |
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If a cross-path spell has + scaling, how are the bonus levels determined? For instance, magma eruption is 3E1F and the aoe has a + indicator. Will a caster with 4E2F get +2 bonus to aoe, or just +1? Also, I'm loving multiplayer so far. For the first time ever, I had an assassination on a lizard commander fail. I check the battle replay and he is randomly wearing black steel full plate, and of course he casts barksin at the start of the assassination  I also got one of the free mage events on turn 3, so I moved him back into my capitol. The very next turn, I get the "attacked by a spider" random event in my cap, and a 1 hp spider poisons my new mage to death. You can't even get mad when something that perfect happens. TheresNoThyme fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jan 18, 2014 |
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TheresNoThyme posted:If a cross-path spell has + scaling, how are the bonus levels determined? For instance, magma eruption is 3E1F and the aoe has a + indicator. Will a caster with 4E2F get +2 bonus to aoe, or just +1? I believe it will always be based on the primary path, so just the bonus for having 1 level of Fire beyond the requirement.
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amuayse posted:Have you considered #reclimit? I have, and as TheDemon mentioned there is also #slowrec; It will just take some fiddling before they are in an ideal place.
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I need some newbie advice on Sieges. I'm unsure exactly what to expect when I drop an army on a fort. I've read what the manual has to say on the subject but there appears to be no way to monitor siege progress and I'm not sure what I should be looking for to get an idea of how long it is going to take to take down the gate. In most of my games it would take 6+ turns to drop a fort if I parked what I considered a huge army (100+ units) and that seems excessive but I'm not even sure what the baseline would be so maybe it's not. This just seems like one of the most obfuscated mechanics in the game and it is really frustrating. Specifically I'm having much bigger problems capping forts in my current game as C'tis since I lack any Siege Bonus recruitables and moreover because I am running armies with many less units because I'm using skelly spam to bowl over the enemy. I have not started my forging or boosting yet so I am nowhere near E3 to make Wall Shakers and Gate Cleavers. Are there summons I should be looking at to better hammer gates, or should I just be summoning shitloads of units, or something else?
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Just leave something on them, enough to repel a moderate counterattack by whoever's left in the fort, plus whatever they can summon, and do something else. A capital fort can take an unbelievably large amount of time to crack, so don't put your best army there.
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The per unit formula is strength squared divided by 100, opposed by the same. Only units and commanders with siege orders contribute for the attacker. Siege or defense bonus adds 1:1 to the final result, flying adds 1 to the final result. Although correct me if I'm wrong I'm going from memory here. So 100 basic humans will take 7 turns to siege a undefended 700 strength fort. Basically sieges are never quick unless its 50 or 100 fort strength. Its common to bypass forts and to allow enemy armies and mages opportunity to roam even if it's possible to lock them in. It's a tactical call really, advantages to both. Storming forts is cleanup phase and usually isn't done with regular armies unless necessary; units like archers and slingers and other cheap low res fodder are used to siege while your armies do their own thing. Move in a real army or a sc on breaching the walls while you scout with a commander or scout. For ctis spend gold on independence archers or slings or national light inf or militia or on mercs TheDemon fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Jan 19, 2014 |
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Does anyone know the rules concerning how indy variants get decided? My current single player dicking around is being somewhat stymied by the fact that the only indy archers I can find to recruit are crossbowmen that come with stupidly heavy armour and cost 23 resources each. I assume there's a broad "later age = heavier armour" thing being factored in and I'm just being a bit unlucky?
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Yeah even in LA it's not completely unheard-of to get 8r indie archers (not sure about the 4r non-Crystal Amazon ones, don't remember seeing them, but then barely play LA, much like everyone else, I assume). That does appear to be bad luck.
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Yeah, the gold standard for LA indies is the 8 res crossbowman in ring mail. Depending on your nation they can be worth forting up to get lots of.
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dis astranagant posted:Yeah, the gold standard for LA indies is the 8 res crossbowman in ring mail. Depending on your nation they can be worth forting up to get lots of. I mean assuming no hoburg gatling squads
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Yeah the gold standard for indie ranged units is definitely the hoburg crossbowman.
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I am liking the Esufo swordsmen. I can mass them fairly quickly assuming I can find a forest province, and they're ok up close. The dinosaurs are ridiculously hard to work right though with them scurrying around everywhere.
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The dinomod spearmen are 587 years old for some reason and thus completely useless.
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dis astranagant posted:The dinomod spearmen are 587 years old for some reason and thus completely useless. Do they just turn into dust the moment they're recruited or something
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dis astranagant posted:The dinomod spearmen are 587 years old for some reason and thus completely useless. That is ridiculous. I didn't do anything to their age or anything that would impact it so I don't know why that would happen. Thanks for the catch, I'll fix it. Donkringel posted:I am liking the Esufo swordsmen. I can mass them fairly quickly assuming I can find a forest province, and they're ok up close. Yeah, there's a lot of undisciplined going on with dinosaurs which makes for interesting challenges in spite of the strong stats. EDIT: dis_astrangant, I'm not seeing the age thing on the spearmen in the current version. All of the spearmen are showing up as ~22 out of 50 years old, whether I look at the starting ones or ones I've just recruited. Schneeble fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Jan 20, 2014 |
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Oh, looks like it's a conflict with the debug mod. Still something that probably needs fixing 
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Any word on how the awesome mod suite or CBM are going in terms of gettin on to dom 4? Mainly interested in the pretender overhauls/additions to hopefully see more variety in them in the future.
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I'm working on a CoE3 conversion for Dom4 and I'm itching to have a test game once I finish Enchanter. That would be 5 nations done.
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LordLeckie posted:Any word on how the awesome mod suite or CBM are going in terms of gettin on to dom 4? Mainly interested in the pretender overhauls/additions to hopefully see more variety in them in the future. What you don't like dragons?
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What are peoples thoughts on the disciples option? It seems cool having a legitimate team mode, but then that does eliminate trading and agreements to some degree.
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Disciples games are a lot of fun, but they take a much higher degree of organization, and you can't quit if things go awry.
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The trading goes internal (and is therefore much easier to arrange and far more extensive) and as we saw in MadPantheon there's still potential for external diplo. Especially in games with numerous smaller teams. I really enjoy disciple games but as Speleo says it takes team organization to make it fun and also quitting without subs really fucks teams. On mods, CBM I know is being worked on, slowly. AE/AG is probably also. I haven't got past the concept stage for DE but one day I'll have something. Basically full-scale mods take time, unfortunately, so we'll probably have some in the next 6 months.
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Yeah disciples games are a lot of fun i just wish mine would stop getting completely hosed over in various ways.
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Kinda disappointed that there isn't a Hoburg nation. Modders, help us.
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Have Some Flowers! posted:Kinda disappointed that there isn't a Hoburg nation. Modders, help us. its been done for dom3, iirc it was hilariously overpowered like most mod nations
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I have a feeling one even existed for dominions 2.
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I've got one like 85% done. Just need to reinstall Gimp and do the sprites, maybe add one or two more troops.
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Have Some Flowers! posted:Kinda disappointed that there isn't a Hoburg nation. Modders, help us. I kinda wish there were mods to port the Conquest of Elysium races and mechanics over to Dominions. Dwarfs who have giant Dwarf queens that essentially lay dwarf eggs and the only way to make new queens is to cover the eggs in precious gems? That's loving great. Or the one that's based on opening apocalyptic seals to get ever bigger demons. I'm pretty sure their win condition is actually just "broke the last seal - world ends. You...win?" DatonKallandor fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jan 22, 2014 |
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DatonKallandor posted:I kinda wish there were mods to port the Conquest of Elysium races and mechanics over to Dominions.
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I already did five of them, I'm doing dwarves next. The problem is balancing them, but I can work something out. Enchanter with recruitable golems, Baron with autosummon units, Cultist with extremely powerful thaumaturgy spells, etc.
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amuayse posted:I already did five of them, I'm doing dwarves next. The problem is balancing them, but I can work something out. Enchanter with recruitable golems, Baron with autosummon units, Cultist with extremely powerful thaumaturgy spells, etc. Wouldn't the cultists just be R'lyeh?
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Sorta. In CoE, the Cult are blood sacrificing humans that worship the Atlantians (Deep Ones), Illithids, and Horrors.
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So how can / should I use the various X Storm spells? They look amazing but I'm not too sure how I can actually use them without frying/melting my mages and the entire army as well.
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GenericOverusedName posted:So how can / should I use the various X Storm spells? They look amazing but I'm not too sure how I can actually use them without frying/melting my mages and the entire army as well. Cast resistance spells on your army/mages or just summon up things with native resistance. Having some of your chaff die from a friendly firestorm isn't a terribly big deal especially if it's killing the other guys' mages and troops. You can also just bring a very small number of troops and spam elementals to make a melee wall while the X storm does its thing.
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Eschatos posted:Wouldn't the cultists just be R'lyeh? Using this mention of R'lyeh as a flimsy excuse for a segue I've just joined the waterworld MP game (all UW nations from all ages in an all-water map) as MA R'lyeh at the behest of a friend, despite having not played any Dom4 yet and having never played MA R'lyeh in Dom3. They seem pretty weak and I really have absolutely no idea what my strategy should be or how to build a pretender for them and Dom4 doesn't even appear to have come with a manual so I'm really lost as to what's any good now. I know the basics of how to do things and played a few MP games in Dom3, but in this particular game I'm going to be totally out of my element. Can anybody give me a breakdown on pretender creation and basic strategy for these guys?
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