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This cartoon is   Paul Conrad was a LA Times cartoonist and a hardcore liberal. He won THREE Pulitzer Prize. He was forced into retirement in 1993 by the new owners of the paper. The cartoonist that replaced Conrad? Michael Ramirez. You can figure out why Conrad was asked to leave. He continued to draw for syndication until his death in 2010.
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Mister Beeg posted:This cartoon is Holy poo poo that's a good cartoon
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Jan 19, 2014 00:49
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gently caress you, Ted Rall. Also, look at that loving car!!!
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Jan 19, 2014 00:58
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Bye now, simpletons 
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Jan 19, 2014 01:00
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Rorus Raz posted:The biggest pro-choice cartoonists I tend to see are Bennett and Day, although I'd love to see a Rall comic on how he supports abortion because he doesn't want to be forced to pay child support or some self-centered thing. Signe Wilkinson is one of the few cartoonists who I see regularly posted around the internet (along with Bennet and to a lesser degree Bors) for her cartoons that focus on women's rights. She's one of the few (perhaps only) female syndicated editorial cartoonists working today, and makes plenty of cartoons dealing with women's issues.
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Jan 19, 2014 01:00
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Would it be fair to call Rall a less crazy liberal version of Muir? Both seem obsessed with how loving cool they are, both constantly spew shitthatdidn'thappen.txt, both are awful artists, both have weird issues with women, etc.?
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Jan 19, 2014 01:00
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Ammat The Ankh posted:She's one of the few (perhaps only) female syndicated editorial cartoonists working today, and makes plenty of cartoons dealing with women's issues. Lisa Benson is another female cartoonist, but she's right-wing. There used to be Ann Telnaes. She was a big-time feminist and won a Pulitzer for her cartoons. She left syndication years ago, alas, although she does animation for Washington Post (she used to work for Disney)
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Jan 19, 2014 01:05
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Mister Beeg posted:This cartoon is Did the LA Times used to be a lot more right-wing?
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Jan 19, 2014 01:15
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pd187 posted:gently caress you, Ted Rall. If it wasn't for that license plate I would swear that was the front of the car, jeez.
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Jan 19, 2014 01:47
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I didn't realize you were into masochism...
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Jan 19, 2014 01:51
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Streeter's boring cartoons don't really live up to the physical pain his eye razor font inflicts upon his readers.
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Jan 19, 2014 01:54
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I can only imagine how a culture which ultimately stresses in-group belonging, shaming, and deference to authority influences confession rates. I imagine that prosecutors rarely have to try a case in which the suspect has not hosed things up for themselves royally in Japan.
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Jan 19, 2014 01:59
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Not a great cartoon- the fig leaf metaphor isn't that well-known outside legal circles.
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Jan 19, 2014 02:09
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That body looks horrifying. Please put a shirt on, Sam.
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Jan 19, 2014 02:10
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Discendo Vox posted:Not a great cartoon- the fig leaf metaphor isn't that well-known outside legal circles. I don't think I've ever heard of it. What is it?
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Jan 19, 2014 02:11
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Honestly, I laugh at this one because it seems like a parody of the idea that you can always find a way to compromise between opposite positions. But it's Rall, so I know it's really "I'm so much smarter than you."
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Jan 19, 2014 02:14
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Discendo Vox posted:Not a great cartoon- the fig leaf metaphor isn't that well-known outside legal circles. I don't know if there's a separate, special legal version, but as someone who knows jack poo poo about law, that cartoon seems fine. Thanks to NSA spying, the American populace is effectively naked, and the reforms offered by the president are insignificant - just enough to cover Uncle Sam's junk.
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Jan 19, 2014 02:16
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I can see why Rall considers himself to be an alternative cartoonist. He's certainly an alternative to good taste and humour.
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Jan 19, 2014 02:18
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Discendo Vox posted:Not a great cartoon- the fig leaf metaphor isn't that well-known outside legal circles. There's this book called The Bible you may have heard of...
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PUGGERNAUT posted:I don't think I've ever heard of it. What is it? It's actually pretty close to what King of Solomon describes in his post above. You can call an argument a "fig leaf" if it barely addresses the needs/problems of the situation, and other, negative outcomes are falsely justified using this excuse. For example, one could say that the NSA's secret collection of domestic information is a figleaf for Snowden's broader disclosure of classified material to foreign powers. Babby Formed posted:There's this book called The Bible you may have heard of... I appreciate the literal origins of the metaphor. Its actual use, however, I've only encountered in law school, and with a second element mentioning what the fig leaf conceals. One consequence in the case of the Bennett cartoon is that it's not clear exactly what the nudity of the US represents. NSA programs in general? Domestic intelligence operations? Foreign spying? Foreign interventionist policy in general? It's not clear. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Jan 19, 2014 |
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Jan 19, 2014 02:44
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Really? I've both heard and used "fig leaf" my entire life for something utterly inadequate to the task but still "technically" acceptable. I'm not a lawyer nor are my parents. I figured it was pretty common.
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Jan 19, 2014 02:53
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Guess I was wrong, then. Sorry about that- language can be weird that way.
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Jan 19, 2014 02:59
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I also had no clue what it meant.
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Jan 19, 2014 03:01
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If it weren't for NSA reform they'd see myI mean Uncle Sam's tiny misshapen penis. I guess.
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Jan 19, 2014 03:02
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Discendo Vox posted:Guess I was wrong, then. Sorry about that- language can be weird that way. No need to apologize! It may be a class thing.
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Jan 19, 2014 03:03
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Stultus Maximus posted:Did the LA Times used to be a lot more right-wing? I believe the LA Times was reactionary for most of its history until around the early '60s, when a change in management steered it left. They were initially big supporters of the home town boy Nixon, for example, but had "turned" on him by the time of his first presidential race.
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Jan 19, 2014 03:10
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Going through Prickly City archives, there was a time when somebody other than Stantis and Allie did the artwork (just for one week).      The artist is Sarah White. Apparently she was friends with Stantis's son. She has her own comic here.
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Jan 19, 2014 03:27
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Discendo Vox posted:I appreciate the literal origins of the metaphor. Its actual use, however, I've only encountered in law school, and with a second element mentioning what the fig leaf conceals. One consequence in the case of the Bennett cartoon is that it's not clear exactly what the nudity of the US represents. NSA programs in general? Domestic intelligence operations? Foreign spying? Foreign interventionist policy in general? It's not clear.
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Jan 19, 2014 03:33
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Hey guess what is the #1 cause of mass shootings? single mothers get hosed, Muir e: I also habitually state full URLs in conversations with my significant other
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Jan 19, 2014 03:38
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MisterBadIdea posted:Uh... what? What does "sincere ignorance" have to do with Bridgegate? Or even Christie in general? I mean, I guess you could make the case that some of his policies are bad and maybe that's because Christie hasn't examined his ideology, but that's still an Evel-Kneivel-length leap away from any of the prevailing Chris Christie narratives. This is late, but it's referring to the fact that the day after the tapes revealed that Christie's minions were involved, he had a press conference where he pleaded 'sincere ignorance' of all charges while simultaneously throwing all of his minions under the bus. EDIT: God drat this thread is moving fast.
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Jan 19, 2014 03:39
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colonel_korn posted:Hey guess what is the #1 cause of mass shootings? single mothers "H T T P colon slash slash granite grok dot com slash blog slash twenty-thirteen slash ten slash efficient dash gun dash control dash that dash actually dash makes dash sense," my super hot half-Japanese redhead wife seductively whispers into my ear as we go shooting in our backyard.
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Jan 19, 2014 03:45
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You can probably already tell that this whole "mass shooters were registered Democrats" idea is bullshit through and through, but if you want a thorough debunking, go here: http://www.examiner.com/article/the-idea-that-recent-mass-shooters-are-mostly-registered-democrats-is-a-myth I do not have time to check all the names on that list, but I picked the first four names I could pick out, and from what I can tell, Cho, Holmes, Loughner, and of course Klebold and Harris all came from two-parent households. Muir seems to be extrapolating from the single data point of Adam Lanza.
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Jan 19, 2014 03:52
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Horon posted:On signing confessions and everything... His advice is excellent and I share it with my friends often, but by confession time its usually too late. When police break into your house illegally and kidnap you, you'll plea to anything or everything so long as you're allowed to escape indefinite illegal detention. Browder is a loving man of steel to be locked up as a teenager for absolutely no reason for three years without confessing. The system finally said, *fart, whatever, get out of here. No apology, no compensation (yet). http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?id=9317078 
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colonel_korn posted:Hey guess what is the #1 cause of mass shootings? single mothers I love how he's basically blaming the single mothers for the fathers leaving.
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MisterBadIdea posted:You can probably already tell that this whole "mass shooters were registered Democrats" idea is bullshit through and through, but if you want a thorough debunking, go here: http://www.examiner.com/article/the-idea-that-recent-mass-shooters-are-mostly-registered-democrats-is-a-myth I knew that comic was in horrible taste, and it definitely set off my bullshit detector; good to know it actually is complete and utter bullshit. Thanks for the link! I think I've figured out why DbD makes me madder than other cartoonists like Ramirez or Lester who distribute just as vile a message to many more people. It's because not only is Muir's viewpoint reprehensible, and not only is his entire universe annoyingly juvenile, but he bases his viewpoint on things that are wrong, and wrong in dangerous ways. Blaming Democrats for mass shootings is one thing; blaming single moms (not absentee dads but single moms, for having the temerity to be left by absentee dads) for mass shootings is just vile, and he's doing it based on bad data. It's the whole "someone is wrong on the Internet  " thing. People being wrong and making decisions based on that just gets under my skin.
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Jan 19, 2014 04:10
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Just as a heads up as I only saw the advertisement for it a few minutes ago, but apparently there's going to be an HBO documentary on Herblock on 1/27 at 9 PM.
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MisterBadIdea posted:You can probably already tell that this whole "mass shooters were registered Democrats" idea is bullshit through and through, but if you want a thorough debunking, go here: http://www.examiner.com/article/the-idea-that-recent-mass-shooters-are-mostly-registered-democrats-is-a-myth The article's good, sure. But have you read the facebook comments? They're some grade A poo poo.
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loquacius posted:I knew that comic was in horrible taste, and it definitely set off my bullshit detector; good to know it actually is complete and utter bullshit. Thanks for the link! Just take a few deep breaths and remember that Muir has no audience, no money, and never had sexual relations without transfer of currency.
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I'm lovin that angry little rich man 
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