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Internet Webguy posted:Rush had a huge rant about Springsteen appearing on Jimmy Fallon and making fun of Chris Christie. Apparently Springsteen is required to like Christie and his politics because Christie likes his music. Never underestimate the weird, outsized effect that The Boss can have on NJ politics.
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kik2dagroin posted:http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2008/04/17/obama_s_clueless_debate_answers I get a real kick out of Rush sounding like he thinks Obama only owns one suit.
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Vertical Lime posted:El Rushbo today: bigger flags mean you're more likely to be a dictator: If you want to understand Rush's program think of it this way; his entire shtick is looking at a thing a liberal did and asking himself "how can I make this wrong?"
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CNN has heard you! You want more Wolf, so they're creating Wolf to bring you more Wolf from 1-2pm. Don't worry, Wolf will still be in The Situation Room every day from 5-6:30pm.
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Joementum posted:CNN has heard you! You want more Wolf, so they're creating Wolf to bring you more Wolf from 1-2pm. Don't worry, Wolf will still be in The Situation Room every day from 5-6:30pm. Sad they're not calling it The Blitz.
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BiggerBoat posted:Rush and Cain were both saying that Obama is addressing the NSA thing to distract us from the economy, Obamacare, the IRS thing, Benghazi and probably some other thing I'm forgetting. Your forgot "Benghazi".
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cafel posted:Sad they're not calling it The Blitz. If you email this to Jeff Zucker there's a non-zero chance Wolf will have a third show on the network by the end of the day.
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Jan 18, 2014 01:35
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Greg Gutfield just said, unironically "Data mining is a must in this world, and the NSA is necessary because there's no alternative" A self professed "libertarian", folks.
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FuzzySkinner posted:Greg Gutfield just said, unironically Wait what, libertarians don't misrepresent their own positions, not ever.
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Jan 18, 2014 02:25
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Who would ask for more Wolf Blitzer?
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cafel posted:Sad they're not calling it The Blitz. Hungry
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Hannity has been such a hack lately, after his station bumps. If any of you listen to him, I think it's on Thursdays that he does his awesome 'panel', where he gets two hard-right shills to debate his hand-picked 'liberal'. One conservative 'panel' member is live in studio with him, one's on the phone, and the 'lib-de-jour' is on a phone he has a mute button on. His latest liberal panel member, who's name I do not know, basically kowtows to whatever is being said basically because they're railroaded into it. This week's special had a wonderous amount of foreplay before he baited the liberal into saying, basically: You like Obama-care? "Yes. I think it's a good idea, but it's roll out was poorly executed for a number of reasons." Yeah, of course you do. Do you LIKE the government paying for the bills of sick people? "Yes. I think that's something the government should help with." Well then how do you feel about the President LYING to you? "I don't like that, but I do like the idea of healthcare." Well didn't the President LIE to you about 'If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor'? "I don't know that that was a lie." DIDN'T THE PRESIDENT LIE ABOUT HOW IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR PLAN YOU CAN KEEP YOUR PLAN?! "I don't agree that that was a lie." *guffaws in the studio and amongst the guests* DID THE PRESIDENT NOT SAY THESE THINGS? And the 'liberal' guest was SO on the verge of saying "YES BUT HE DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH!" Then they cut him off and let the conservative guests ramble on about how the government can't run ANYTHING right and they are incompetent fools for trying to lead or do anything at all right. That every, single thing the government ever does, EVER is wrong, corrupt, terribly mismanaged to the point of criminality. All I wanted at that moment, at that particular, special moment where Republicans were screaming about the gross incompetence of every single thing the government does wrong forever, was to have a single voice pipe up and say... "I guess you don't support the military then, huh?"
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Big Beef City posted:All I wanted at that moment, at that particular, special moment where Republicans were screaming about the gross incompetence of every single thing the government does wrong forever, was to have a single voice pipe up and say... "I guess you don't support the military then, huh?" That would be possibly the most beautiful thing to ever happen on Conservative talk radio.
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Rush is a coward and has his victims set on a delay.
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If someone tried that "so you don't like the military then?" they would just say some bullshit about Obama "gutting" defense spending and leaving our troops out there without adequate equipment. They would also probably agree the people at the top are bad and they don't support military bureaucracy but they do support ARE TROOPS. And finally there are plenty of people who think keeping an army to protect them is literally the governments only job and the only place tax money should go. You can't out-reason a conservative because there is no reason involved in any of their opinions and they can pivot anything to be the fault of liberals. Today my local conservative shithead was asking for callers to call in and explain why they thought FoxNews "so often destroyed the competition." He said it couldn't be just because Republicans because "42% of the population identify as independents" while ignoring that Fox news daily viewership average falls below 2 million viewers which isn't even 1% of the population of the country. Some guy called in and said that basically MSNBC and NBC and HTL are all competing for a single demographic while FoxNews is the only choice for conservatives. The host also called MSNBC an "extension of the DNC" but scoffed at the idea that Roger Ailes is diehard conservative enough that you could consider Fox an extension of the RNC. Really he just wanted someone to call in and say "because Fox is the only place telling the truth!" but I turned it off before he got that. I was extremely tempted to call and tell him that FoxNews may be the highest rated news network, but its approximately 1 million average viewers during primetime gets stomped by ABC and CBS nightly broadcast news averaging around 10 million FOR EACH CHANNEL. I didn't feel like waiting on hold though.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:The host also called MSNBC an "extension of the DNC" but scoffed at the idea that Roger Ailes is diehard conservative enough that you could consider Fox an extension of the RNC. Really he just wanted someone to call in and say "because Fox is the only place telling the truth!" but I turned it off before he got that. Poor sucker doesn't realize that telling the truth means hearing unpleasant realities, not hearing what you want to hear to confirm your own beliefs. People with such poor command of lateral mental thought are the sort that let con artists walk all over them, while believing the con artist did them a favor. No big surprise what a lot of advertisements on Fox are for - lots of what amount to con artist scams and pyramidical type bullshit. It's really very sad to watch - because a large portion of fox viewers are the vulnerable elderly. People of this mentality are a bit like watching a lineup of people standing in the railroad tracks as a train splatters them down a long line, while insisting the safest place to be is on the traintracks. Then again, a portion of them are the same boomers who trashed my generation's future for their own selfish short-term interests, so gently caress 'em. 
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http://www.nationalreview.com/human-exceptionalism/368823/prevent-organs-cash-inequality-wesley-j-smith Libertarian policies being argued for with liberal rhetoric, criticized by a conservative columnist. Pro-click for the spectacle.
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ErichZahn posted:Rush is a coward and has his victims set on a delay. I thought this was common in radio because if someone curses you want to be able to quickly drop them or bleep it out?
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HootTheOwl posted:I thought this was common in radio because if someone curses you want to be able to quickly drop them or bleep it out? Pants Donkey fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Jan 18, 2014 |
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FuzzySkinner posted:Greg Gutfield just said, unironically Data mining is as inefficient at producing actionable intelligence as torture - and yet once again we have unqualified morons making decisions about subjects that, as with interrogation methodology, they know nothing about outside of watching movies and TV shows. It's times like this it's tempting for me to pine for a technocracy. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jan 18, 2014 |
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Rorus Raz posted:regular listeners will eat up Rush or Hannity giving a liberal the boot. If I recall correctly, back in the day when Rush was making his bones and still had an edge, he'd even hang up on a caller using a little "screaming aborted fetus" sound bite, i.e. he was "aborting" the caller, and it was funny in a sick way. Now, of course, abortion is No Laughing Matter and I doubt he could get away with making that kind of joke with his dour humorless audience.
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Zwabu posted:If I recall correctly, back in the day when Rush was making his bones and still had an edge, he'd even hang up on a caller using a little "screaming aborted fetus" sound bite, i.e. he was "aborting" the caller, and it was funny in a sick way.
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Nah, his audience are sychophants. They buy whatever offensive garbage he shovels at them. He probably stopped using the aborted fetus scream because it got old.
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John Gibson used to drop "liberal" callers by playing the sound of an explosion and he would then say how you need to watch out for IEDs. This was in the middle of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars when soldiers were dying left and right due to IEDs.
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Today I literally heard Wilkow say that liberals hate interracial marriage and only supported it hoping to cause disorder in white society.
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Good Citizen posted:Today I literally heard Wilkow say that liberals hate interracial marriage and only supported it hoping to cause disorder in white society. That's literally right out of the 19th century. Guess I was correct, the right wants us to return to the era of slavery and robber barons.
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Good Citizen posted:Today I literally heard Wilkow say that liberals hate interracial marriage and only supported it hoping to cause disorder in white society. I sometimes wonder, even though I know the answer, if conservatives really believe their "liberals are the real racists" and "I'm not a racist" bullshit. Like, are they saying that to convince other people, or to convince themselves? I have never seen a liberal fall for the whole "I'm not a racist" thing, so I wonder who they think they are tricking with their "these laws aren't racist" winking to each other. Are they that dumb? ToxicSlurpee posted:Guess I was correct, the right wants us to return to the era of slavery and robber barons. I feel like this is common knowledge.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:I sometimes wonder, even though I know the answer, if conservatives really believe their "liberals are the real racists" and "I'm not a racist" bullshit. Like, are they saying that to convince other people, or to convince themselves? I have never seen a liberal fall for the whole "I'm not a racist" thing, so I wonder who they think they are tricking with their "these laws aren't racist" winking to each other. Are they that dumb? Libertarian leaning Republicans think liberals are the real racists and conservative leaning Republicans don't like black people but since being 'racist' is a bad thing they convince themselves that they aren't and they just hate the 'bad ones'. Wilkow is the former.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:I sometimes wonder, even though I know the answer, if conservatives really believe their "liberals are the real racists" and "I'm not a racist" bullshit. Like, are they saying that to convince other people, or to convince themselves? I have never seen a liberal fall for the whole "I'm not a racist" thing, so I wonder who they think they are tricking with their "these laws aren't racist" winking to each other. Are they that dumb?
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mr. mephistopheles posted:I sometimes wonder, even though I know the answer, if conservatives really believe their "liberals are the real racists" and "I'm not a racist" bullshit. Like, are they saying that to convince other people, or to convince themselves? I have never seen a liberal fall for the whole "I'm not a racist" thing, so I wonder who they think they are tricking with their "these laws aren't racist" winking to each other. Are they that dumb? Most of the racists in my experience know they are racist to some degree but don't care in a sort of self hating way. They can't accept racism being pointed out anywhere ever because it would force them to think about their own racist feelings which of course they don't want to do. Basically the mindset is that if you repeat a lie loud and fast enough it will become true and all the awful minorities will disappear and you won't feel your conscience nagging at you, because most of them aren't complete sociopaths. Liberals pointing out the truth get in the way of the fingers stuffed in ears screaming of 'I'M NOT RACIST I'M NOT RACIST I'M NOT RACIST.....' and then they yell 'NO YOU'RE THE REAL RACIST' to bully the liberals into shutting up. This is also the source of the idea that liberals are self satisfied and smug, because conservatives know the liberals are correct and can't stand it. The same goes for racism, sexism and homophobia, and all the laws related to them. They know gay marriage is morally correct but they can't stand the idea of those filthy degenerates being happy, nor can they stand the idea of filthy aborting sluts being happy, or lazy welfare blacks being happy. It's entirely said to convince themselves. icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Jan 19, 2014 |
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Also, lots of racists that aren't ideological white supremacists believe that they aren't racist.
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Lycus posted:Also, lots of racists that aren't ideological white supremacists believe that they aren't racist. The Southern Strategy also had a cultural side effect of making people laugh and scoff at the notion that something can be racist without explicitly being so (see: voter ID).
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Lycus posted:Also, lots of racists that aren't ideological white supremacists believe that they aren't racist. Yeah that's fair. I've had arguments with my mom being "not racist" before. Now I just point it out when she says things like "there are too many Asians in this neighborhood" and "I had to put my lawnmower in the garage because some Mexicans were working in the backyard next door." She also "doesn't trust" Obama, but can't articulate why if you ask. Life-long registered Democrat. Don't think she's voted since Clinton, though. But I mean more this blatant racist poo poo like when they use dog whistle words. The whole playing innocent thing like it isn't totally obvious to everyone. "I didn't mean black people when I said inner city thugs, you're racist for thinking that" or "Obama's skin color has nothing to do with why I think he's a Kenyan Muslim socialist." That kind of poo poo.
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As I understand it, the official reasoning is that 1) racism means treating people of different races differently, which is what affirmative action technically does and 2) the position that people of color need AA implies that PoCs have less ability than whites. Conservatives, willfully or not, misunderstand what it really means to be a racist or to suffer under a racist system.
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The libertarians I know contend that progressive economic policies, and most specifically minimum wage, are used to deliberately lower employment levels of minorities. Because if only companies were allowed to employ minorities for a fraction of the current wage floor, the plight of the downtrodden and disenfranchised in the US would be solved. This is what real people going to engineering grad school or law school believe.  edit: when i say deliberately, i mean they actually have used the word racist to describe min wage as if it is a nefarious racism-based plot to mandate workers are paid more. esto es malo fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Jan 19, 2014 |
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joeburz posted:The libertarians I know contend that progressive economic policies, and most specifically minimum wage, are used to deliberately lower employment levels of minorities. Because if only companies were allowed to employ minorities for a fraction of the current wage floor, the plight of the downtrodden and disenfranchised in the US would be solved. For what it's worth, I'm in grad school and am dating a law student, and I have yet to meet anyone who isn't a tremendous neck beard who believes this kind of nonsense. I just hope that extrapolates further than my little bubble so I don't loving implode with rage.
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Lycus posted:Also, lots of racists that aren't ideological white supremacists believe that they aren't racist. Eh, even among the Stormfront crowd, you'll often hear a bunch say "I'm not racist, I'm just pro-white!" which largely feeds into the idea that it isn't racism if you don't actively hate the people you're being racist towards and don't call them racial slurs (and even then, racial slurs are okay if the person they're deriding "deserves it"). A lot of these folks will happily call themselves "racialists" or "race realists" however, which is really just an attempt to make their hateful views more palatable to outsiders. Bonus points if they point out racism was coined by Trotsky and that you're a filthy commie for using the word in the first place.
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