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KilGrey posted:Yeah, they've said they are all human. That's part of the reason Reynard is so disliked, side from being a bastard he's half wessen. You remember which episode? Not arguing, just curious where it is cuz I totally missed that.
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KilGrey posted:It's more than just being racist though, Blutbad usually make meals out of Fuchbau. They have reason to be very wary. I think you are mistaking fuchsbau and Bauerschwein here. While blutbaden and fuchsbau ain't close, I don't think it has ever been stated that blutbaden eats fuchbau. It's more that they are both canine wesen but different enough, to not like each other.
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Jan 19, 2014 08:39
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hangedman1984 posted:You remember which episode? Not arguing, just curious where it is cuz I totally missed that. It might actually have been mentioned in an interview with the writers, as well as Grimms not actually woging when the wesen see them. But Juliette's reaction to her friend's abusive husband really should have made him think she was the Grimm, if that's the case. If I make up my own reason for how he knew she wasn't a grimm, I'd say it's because none of her fight moves are especially structured. She didn't whip out any kung-fu like we thought she was going to. I know Renard's mom was hexenbiest and his father was human and I'm pretty sure that part was mentioned in the show somewhere. Maybe when he was explaining what he was to Nick? But, then again, Adeline's baby tested positive for royal blood, so I don't know if they are going to stick to the whole "all royals are human" thing.
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Bored posted:It might actually have been mentioned in an interview with the writers, as well as Grimms not actually woging when the wesen see them. But Juliette's reaction to her friend's abusive husband really should have made him think she was the Grimm, if that's the case. If I make up my own reason for how he knew she wasn't a grimm, I'd say it's because none of her fight moves are especially structured. She didn't whip out any kung-fu like we thought she was going to. According to a person on another board, Juliette used several fairly advanced blocks and defensive moves from kickboxing. As for meeting Rosalee's family, I loved that they knew Monroe was a Blutbad and at his request served him veggie food, but the older sister still flaunted her steak at him. I mean, Monroe doesn't go Vegan out of a desire for a super-healthy lifestyle or because it's trendy, he does it so he won't be as tempted to run people down and eat them. So yeah, big sis, go taunt the dude who could rip your arm off and beat you to death with it.
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Jan 19, 2014 10:05
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Honestly, I thought her sister was kind of a bitch, regardless of her feelings for Rosalee. My dad agreed.
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Jan 19, 2014 11:54
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hangedman1984 posted:You remember which episode? Not arguing, just curious where it is cuz I totally missed that. I don't remember the episode number but I believe it was the episode where they find out what Renard is and how there is a different word for male hexenbiest than female. It was when a Nick was staying with Monroe and was a scene with Nick, Hank, Monroe and Rosalee sitting around the dinner table. I also recall Renards brother bringing it up to him once. That their father brought shame to the family by knocking up a wessen. Sorry I can't be more specific.  Bored posted:But Juliette's reaction to her friend's abusive husband really should have made him think she was the Grimm, if that's the case. If I make up my own reason for how he knew she wasn't a grimm, I'd say it's because none of her fight moves are especially structured. She didn't whip out any kung-fu like we thought she was going to. To me, it was because he had to voge on purpose for her to see him. I don't think her not reacting is enough to make him think she's a Grimm because there are plenty of humans who know about wessen. Enough that they have a word for it. For all he knew, his wife had shown/told her before since they'd been friends for ten years or more. That and her lack of strength when fighting.
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PureRok posted:Honestly, I thought her sister was kind of a bitch, regardless of her feelings for Rosalee. My dad agreed. Yes she was. The steak flaunting was really mean. KilGrey posted:
I thought that might have been it too, but he was all woged out, I thought, when Nick saw him too.
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Bored posted:Yes she was. The steak flaunting was really mean. And also really stupid. So you really want to taunt your sister's "recovering addict" boyfriend when you know he might flip out and kill you and your mom? I will say that I liked that in terms of family drama it was more August: Fuchsbau County and less Guess Who's Coming to (eat you for) Dinner. BTW, this episode really needs some kind of sequel/follow-up in terms of the manticore. For one, I kind of want to see Nick fight the thing himself, but mostly, do we all really believe that the American prison system can contain something like that if he really wants to get out? I mean, sure, plenty of Wesen are in prison (as shown by the turtle-people episode) but come on, holding a manticore, especially since the human prison system doesn't know what it's dealing with seems a bridge too far. johntfs fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jan 19, 2014 |
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johntfs posted:And also really stupid. So you really want to taunt your sister's "recovering addict" boyfriend when you know he might flip out and kill you and your mom? She confronted Monroe later in the episode, so she was clearly not afraif of him, also they must have known that Rosalee wouldn't be in a relationship with a crazy murderer, Blutbad or not.
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johntfs posted:And also really stupid. So you really want to taunt your sister's "recovering addict" boyfriend when you know he might flip out and kill you and your mom? I feel like you are underestimating the Fuchsbaus; I'm guessing they are not that helpless that three of them would be in terrible danger. Plus, I don't think anyone was in danger, she was just loving with him to make him uncomfortable and there was never a chance he would flip out. I thought that whole sequence was unusually humanizing of wessen. Oh, awkward Monroe  Delta-Wye fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Jan 19, 2014 |
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Delta-Wye posted:I feel like you are underestimating the Fuchsbaus; I'm guessing they are not that helpless that three of them would be in terrible danger. Plus, I don't think anyone was in danger, she was just loving with him to make him uncomfortable and there was never a chance he would flip out. Oh, I agree that no one was in danger from Monroe. I just think the perception of danger/trouble might have been higher. Sort of like "Hey, this is Rosalee, the sister who was strung out on heroin the last time you saw her. Anyway, yes I'm coming to dinner and I'm bringing my boyfriend, who's a former child solder in a militia that liked to chop limbs off of people and burn them in barrels. He'd prefer to have a veggie meal because the smell of burning meat might trigger a flashback. See you at eight."
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Jan 19, 2014 23:05
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Wait what? Are you thinking of the Lowen Games? I don't recall that they ever mentioned Monroe being militia at all, otherwise....(unless it was on one of the episodes I missed...)
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What I thought was really interesting was when Juliette was reading the entry on manticores, when the Grimm came upon the army unit with manticores, "I quickly put away my blade to conceal my identity as a Grimm." I'm not sure what that means, maybe they notice a Grimm when they have a killing intent? Thought I'd point it out.
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Jan 20, 2014 01:25
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I know the writers have said more than once that Nick doesn't woge or look like anything to the wessen when they realize he's a Grimm, but I really wish that he turned into this hideously, gross, ugly thing in their view. Then never have them show it to us, just let other wessen describe it.
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Strabo4 posted:What I thought was really interesting was when Juliette was reading the entry on manticores, when the Grimm came upon the army unit with manticores, "I quickly put away my blade to conceal my identity as a Grimm." I think they notice most people waving blades around. Probably the Grimm didn't want to attract attention, and unlike Nick had mastered the art of "not looking at wesen in a funny way" that usually gives them away.
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Astrofig posted:Wait what? Are you thinking of the Lowen Games? I don't recall that they ever mentioned Monroe being militia at all, otherwise....(unless it was on one of the episodes I missed...) I think you missed the fact that a violent history for a normal-human was subbed in for "person eating werewolf" to give it a bit of a realistic spin. johntfs posted:Oh, I agree that no one was in danger from Monroe. I just think the perception of danger/trouble might have been higher. Sort of like "Hey, this is Rosalee, the sister who was strung out on heroin the last time you saw her. Anyway, yes I'm coming to dinner and I'm bringing my boyfriend, who's a former child solder in a militia that liked to chop limbs off of people and burn them in barrels. He'd prefer to have a veggie meal because the smell of burning meat might trigger a flashback. See you at eight." I'm sure they were aware that Rosalee had turned her life around when she came back and dealt with her brother's death, which is a crazy amount of work. Hell, things were even actively antagonistic at first while everyone was ignoring the elephant in the room. If you think the family history and the blutblod boyfriend are difficult issues to overcome though, wait until they hear about the Grimm bff.  EDIT: I've been contemplating the whole human royal vs. wesen issue, and I'm guessing that is where the royal/grimm alliance comes in; they cultivate a band of enforcers and use them to control the wesen population. It would explain why Renard is so big on the "Yeah, I've got a grimm on my side  , wanna fight about it?" bit.
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Oasx posted:She confronted Monroe later in the episode, so she was clearly not afraif of him, also they must have known that Rosalee wouldn't be in a relationship with a crazy murderer, Blutbad or not. I just had a mental image of a Pomeranian being all aggressive when dealing with threats that are larger than them. Maybe she's more of a Pomeranian and not a fox. The clever fox stories, in various fables, basically just have the fox being crafty and escaping danger that way. I wouldn't think they'd be as aggressive as she was being. But she's also probably smart enough to know how far she can push it...if her personality sort of follows the foxes in fairy tales. Bored fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jan 20, 2014 |
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Tonight's episode: 3x12 – "The Wild Hunt" Nick and Hank track a murderous wolf Wesen bent on finding worthy opponents, and Monroe finally pops the question.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Tonight's episode: so much 
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Jan 24, 2014 18:39
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Bahahahahahahaha. That ending was great.
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Jan 25, 2014 04:01
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That's going to be the next thread title, obviously.
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No new Grimm until February 28? Oh &@$#! indeed.
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drat, I was hoping we'd get one more before the Olympics. This show never drops the ball with its cliffhangers. 
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drat, Monroe can be scary if he gets angry! No wonder he tries so hard not to be! Guh, no new ones until after the Olympics?! Nooo....
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I found myself unable to care about the case of the week. Rosalee and Monroe's plot was way more interesting. Monroe's parents are jerks and holy poo poo that ending what the hell. Also, more fuel for my hypothesis that after they woge, wesen can simply tell Nick's a Grimm. Why do we have to wait a month for another episode? 
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I don't care how long this show goes on for, I will never get tired of wessen freaking out when they realize Nick is a Grimm.
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johntfs posted:And also really stupid. So you really want to taunt your sister's "recovering addict" boyfriend when you know he might flip out and kill you and your mom? Absolutely, because if he did flip out then that would prove that she was right all along and Monroe was scum, thus proving Rosalee is scum for dating him, and therefore that the sister is the Good Daughter. I can absolutely believe someone would do something like that. Some Numbers posted:I found myself unable to care about the case of the week. Rosalee and Monroe's plot was way more interesting. Me too. I almost feel like it'd be better if the whole show was just "awkward Wesen society drama/comedy" instead of a police procedural, but the drama would probably get too thick if they tried a one-hour show like that. Maybe a "Monroe & Rosalee" 22-minute spinoff?
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XboxPants posted:Me too. I almost feel like it'd be better if the whole show was just "awkward Wesen society drama/comedy" instead of a police procedural, but the drama would probably get too thick if they tried a one-hour show like that. Maybe a "Monroe & Rosalee" 22-minute spinoff? I feel like it's kind of moving in that direction. They spent way more time focusing on Monroe and Rosalee and big stuff happening abroad. The wesen of the week felt like a complete afterthought that they had to tack on because "monster police case of the week" is the premise that they have to follow.
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Maybe it's just me, but I have little to no interest in everything going on abroad. We're halfway through the season at this point and it's all just kind of happening. I have no idea what anyone wants outside of Adeline who just wants to be a Hexenbiest again. Shrimpy fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Jan 25, 2014 |
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Shrimpy posted:Maybe it's just me, but I have little to no interest in everything going on abroad. Yeah, they're running a slow reveal on all that but I'd just like for Nick to sit down with Renard and play 20 questions. We've been given very little information about the global geopolitics of Wesen and royals and then just been dumped into their intrigues
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I want Nick to meet another Grimm. With no woge, would they flip out? You're a Grimm?!?! There are obviously plenty of them out there, and it isn't a bloodline like Royals. Anyway, maybe season 7 will have that happen.
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That was a great ending, i was ok with the wessen of the week being a side plot, because the two other storylines were really good. Personally i enjoy the royal/resistance part of the story.
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pentyne posted:I don't care how long this show goes on for, I will never get tired of wessen freaking out when they realize Nick is a Grimm. It keeps getting more and more over the top and personal too. Random person's reaction. Juliette's friend's reaction. Monroe's parents' reaction. There is much more they can escalate there.
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JD Bucks 7 posted:I want Nick to meet another Grimm. With no woge, would they flip out? You're a Grimm?!?! There are obviously plenty of them out there, and it isn't a bloodline like Royals. Anyway, maybe season 7 will have that happen. He met his mom and couldn't tell she was a Grimm.
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Some Numbers posted:He met his mom and couldn't tell she was a Grimm. And presumably he knew his aunt for much longer as an adult, and had no idea she was a Grimm.
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ShakeZula posted:And presumably he knew his aunt for much longer as an adult, and had no idea she was a Grimm. Didn't his Grimm-ness only come out as she was dying (last week or so of her terminal illness)? Or is my memory horribly mangling up the start of the series?
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Well this is a fun show, I just recently started watching it. Holy crap I am annoyed as hell that Nick is seemingly finding it impossible to just tell Juliette about things, though. 2/3 through season 2 and it would just solve so many problems. It's not like she hasn't been though enough weird poo poo, she won't doubt all that much.
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Fellwenner posted:Well this is a fun show, I just recently started watching it. Holy crap I am annoyed as hell that Nick is seemingly finding it impossible to just tell Juliette about things, though. 2/3 through season 2 and it would just solve so many problems. It's not like she hasn't been though enough weird poo poo, she won't doubt all that much. The writers realized that this was annoying as hell and took steps.
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devoir posted:The writers realized that this was annoying as hell and took steps. Thank god.
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