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DekeThornton
Sep 2, 2011

Be friends!

fatherdog posted:

Why would any of the people below her be ranked above her?

Well, personally I think both Alexis Davis and Jessica Eye have more impressive wins than Tate lately, so I'd probably rank those two ahead of Tate. But then Tate was two rounds up against Zingano, until she got knocked out, so I might be very wrong.

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1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Yeah I was going to say the same thing, on top of that Kaufman actually does have a win over Tate and actually defended her belt (even if Roxy is a very favorable stylistic matchup for her). Kaufman's wins over Tate, Shayna Baszler, and Alexis Davis trump Tate's wins over Marloes Coenen and Zoila Frausto.

I would have Miesha closer to where Liz Carmouche is, which is pretty appropriate considering Sean Shelby's matchmaking here.

Chrom1um
Dec 31, 2005
Come and join my doomsday cult!

1st AD posted:

I didn't realize you could get ranked #4 by not losing as badly as you did the first time to the champ. Also, I can't really think of any time Tate actually did anything resembling offense. Like just because Joe Rogan goes OHHHHHHHH! doesn't mean that you actually did anything important.

I mean if you're going to go by in-fight performances and not wins and losses, her getting beat up by Julie Kedzie should shoot her pretty far down the list.

I consider sweeps and punches to the face offense, especially against someone who was considered nearly unsweepable.

When I'm ranking this many people I don't just take wins into account, I take the nature of their losses into account too. I normally wouldn't count a 3rd round stoppage where they were controlled for most of the fight as impressive except it came against Ronda Rousey. Same person who armbarred Sarah Kaufman in less than 60 seconds in a much more typical Rousey annihilation, in-between her wins over Tate and long after Tate's loss to Kaufman in 2009. For that matter I also take into account how long ago certain fights are as well, as amazingly fighters do change.

In addition, for the fighters whom I've seen enough footage of I'll take consistent patterns into account, and Tate has a tendency to be crazy tough, almost to a Nogueira degree. Her comeback win against Kedzie was not a fluke in my opinion, as she did the same thing against Marloes Coenen, who would definitely be in the Top 10 here if she were a Bantamweight still.

Anyway, I had a much lower opinion of Tate going in to her fight against Rousey than coming out of it, and had her ranked right next to Carmouche, for all the reasons you cited. I had heard about how much larger Tate's training camp for Rousey, apparently reinvesting her newfound TUF and sponsor money, and about her gaining muscle mass for the fight, and I pretty much dismissed it as all for naught. However she clearly was much more formidable than I'd expected.

Btw this is all coming from a Ronda Rousey fan.

Chrom1um fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jan 21, 2014

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.
So Titan FC's first televised show is running against Bellator's first show of the season featuring Rampage.

Seems like a bad idea to run a card fronted by Mike Ricci against that even if it is Rampage/Bellator

canoshiz
Nov 6, 2005

THANK GOD FOR THE SMOKE MACHINE!

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything

Yuriy posted:

Seems like a bad idea to run a card fronted by Mike Ricci against that even if it is Rampage/Bellator

Pretty Boy Mike Ricci is Must See TV, and let's not forget about Jorge Gurgel either!

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

No point in watching Bellator past the prelims, imo.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

riddle me this, riddle me that, what the gently caress is wrong with you matt riddle

Ninja PD
Jul 21, 2006
My god, the grown ups were right all along. Weed really is the worst (/best litmus test for really stupid people).

Just cancel the SuperBowl (suuuuperbowl riiight, heh, get it, a huge bowl, 420 errday)

Ninja PD fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Jan 21, 2014

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
That time Matt Riddle beat Jon Jones in a wrestling tournament (Or at least won it and Jones also participated)

Triticum Guzzler
Jun 16, 2002
I don't know if it's on Netflix or whatever but I recently saw a kind of funny MMA movie from Hong Kong on a flight. It's all choreographed like this and has insane amounts of fouls and taekwondo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktVJo5WBqw0

It tries to be extremely serious and dramatic but isn't very good at it. Also one of the main characters is just some guy who signed up for a pro fight and has no training, so he gets the training montage which is entirely boxing and then his coaches are like "your fight is in 2 weeks, so it's time you learned some submissions". It's very telling about the region's perception of MMA.

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011

Triticum Guzzler posted:

I don't know if it's on Netflix or whatever but I recently saw a kind of funny MMA movie from Hong Kong on a flight. It's all choreographed like this and has insane amounts of fouls and taekwondo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktVJo5WBqw0

It tries to be extremely serious and dramatic but isn't very good at it. Also one of the main characters is just some guy who signed up for a pro fight and has no training, so he gets the training montage which is entirely boxing and then his coaches are like "your fight is in 2 weeks, so it's time you learned some submissions". It's very telling about the region's perception of MMA.

entirely accurate

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I bought the EA MMA game for 3 dollars at a pawn shop. I like all the Bas Rutten and getting to sleep over at Rickson Gracies gym. I loving loathe EA and their obsession with making all their sports games from this time do important stuff with the right stick. If you don't have to spend more than a value meals worth on it I recommend it for the laughs, memories, and B-leagueness.

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

Triticum Guzzler posted:

I don't know if it's on Netflix or whatever but I recently saw a kind of funny MMA movie from Hong Kong on a flight. It's all choreographed like this and has insane amounts of fouls and taekwondo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktVJo5WBqw0

It tries to be extremely serious and dramatic but isn't very good at it. Also one of the main characters is just some guy who signed up for a pro fight and has no training, so he gets the training montage which is entirely boxing and then his coaches are like "your fight is in 2 weeks, so it's time you learned some submissions". It's very telling about the region's perception of MMA.

The only previous time I've seen mma in hong kong movies is Flashpoint/Dǎo Huǒ Xiàn, which isn't about mma (it's a fairly standard Hong Kong gangster/cop flick) but all the fight scenes are mma for no readily apparent reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C_nssjVrSo

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Is there any story behind the MMA-ishness of the fight in Candyland in Django Unchained? I just remember seeing a plausible looking sweep and guillotine choke and thinking huh.

Solomonic
Jan 3, 2008

INCIPIT SANTA

fatherdog posted:

The only previous time I've seen mma in hong kong movies is Flashpoint/Dǎo Huǒ Xiàn, which isn't about mma (it's a fairly standard Hong Kong gangster/cop flick) but all the fight scenes are mma for no readily apparent reason.

Donnie Yen was really interested in MMA when he choreographed Flash Point (and SPL, a few years prior); it was between his wushu phase and his wing chun phase. He kind of wanders from style to style picking up people's moves, like a stern Asian Mega Man.

Street Horrrsing
Mar 24, 2010

Godwalker of The Grateful Prisoner



Apparently Nick Newell is getting a title shot.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

Street Horrrsing posted:

Apparently Nick Newell is getting a title shot.

Congrats to him, he deserves it. Worked hard, never accepted a hand out

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Is there any story behind the MMA-ishness of the fight in Candyland in Django Unchained? I just remember seeing a plausible looking sweep and guillotine choke and thinking huh.

Maybe they got Rorion in as the fight Choreographer, like in Lethal Weapon.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Here's a B-League-ish question...

What are the real high level MMA/BJJ gyms in the Seattle/Tacoma/WestWA area? I'm trying to make my video production degree less depressing and I'm trying to find some pro bono work for an MMA gym or fighter.

Fat Twitter Man
Jan 24, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Here's a B-League-ish question...

What are the real high level MMA/BJJ gyms in the Seattle/Tacoma/WestWA area? I'm trying to make my video production degree less depressing and I'm trying to find some pro bono work for an MMA gym or fighter.

Matt Hume's AMC Pankration, where Mighty Mouse trains. I think Ivan Salaverry's gym is there too.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Intel&Sebastian posted:

I bought the EA MMA game for 3 dollars at a pawn shop. I like all the Bas Rutten and getting to sleep over at Rickson Gracies gym. I loving loathe EA and their obsession with making all their sports games from this time do important stuff with the right stick. If you don't have to spend more than a value meals worth on it I recommend it for the laughs, memories, and B-leagueness.

wrecking people as Nick Diaz never gets old. Plus soccer kicks in a cage!

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Thanks, I had an email out to the Salaverry gym since it's closest to me but I forgot about AMC.


I've only played the career mode in EA MMA so far and it was so painful I went back to Madden for a break yesterday. But I'll go home and punch Japanese people as Nick Diaz tonight.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
B-league request: someone design a :tito: emote that's like :getin: except, you know, tito's giant head and "of course" and I will buy it. I will buy it so much.

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.

LobsterMobster posted:

B-league request: someone design a :tito: emote that's like :getin: except, you know, tito's giant head and "of course" and I will buy it. I will buy it so much.

Imo it should be tito's head from titodick because of that little smile he's got

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.
Great, Tito has to gently caress up even making jokes about him because right after that post Bloody Elbow posted this:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/1/22/5334894/ufc-rebney-mma-tito-ortiz-paralysis-bellator-ppv-neck-break

quote:

The Bellator CEO says a medical specialist has told him that the former UFC champ could end up paralyzed if he fights again.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Nice try Reb, but I still don't want to see a Tito fight.

henkman
Oct 8, 2008
You can't expect a neck to support that head for 38 years, the human body can only be pushed so far

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.

henkman posted:

You can't expect a neck to support that head for 38 years, the human body can only be pushed so far

If Tito had been born Kayan Lahwi he'd be pretty much the world's worst living bobblehead

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
One thing I will give EA MMA credit for: The fanboy "blog" that tracks your career is an uncanny simulation of mma journalism.

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Nice try Reb, but I still don't want to see a Tito fight.

lol

DOMELORD420
Dec 28, 2000

Intel&Sebastian posted:

One thing I will give EA MMA credit for: The fanboy "blog" that tracks your career is an uncanny simulation of mma journalism.

I created a fighter that went undefeated his entire career until I hosed up his retirement fight real bad and lost to Kevin Randleman. The resulting blog post was reminiscent of the wailing and gnashing of teeth that occurred after Fedor lost to Werdum. I couldn't have planned it any better.

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.
TitanFC is like signing every UFC person that WSOF and Bellator aren't and now added to their roster is george sotiropoulos


Edit:

quote:

@lorettahuntmma 19m
Ben Askren starts at 50K/50K for his first fight with OneFC, nearly twice what he made leaving Bellator, he says.


That's great for him but I find it really, really funny that Bellator was paying their best champion less than 25/25

Yuriy fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jan 23, 2014

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

Mavis Beacon Boi posted:

I created a fighter that went undefeated his entire career until I hosed up his retirement fight real bad and lost to Kevin Randleman. The resulting blog post was reminiscent of the wailing and gnashing of teeth that occurred after Fedor lost to Werdum. I couldn't have planned it any better.

Holy poo poo I need to see a screencap of this.


Yuriy posted:

TitanFC is like signing every UFC person that WSOF and Bellator aren't and now added to their roster is george sotiropoulos


Edit:


That's great for him but I find it really, really funny that Bellator was paying their best champion less than 25/25

Bendo was making that until the Eddie Alvarez UFC offer came out, and he was a reigning UFC champion.

DOMELORD420
Dec 28, 2000

1st AD posted:

Holy poo poo I need to see a screencap of this.

I bought the game, "beat" the career mode, wrestle-hosed a few teenagers on XBOX Live, then sold the piece of trash within a week. So no screencaps for you.

My absolute favorite thing about the game was how you could throw a jab and teleport halfway across the cage. As noted above, this is best accomplished with Nick Diaz, as is everything else in the game.

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Here's a B-League-ish question...

What are the real high level MMA/BJJ gyms in the Seattle/Tacoma/WestWA area? I'm trying to make my video production degree less depressing and I'm trying to find some pro bono work for an MMA gym or fighter.

Do you train at all?

Edit: not in the do you even train sense, but, could you go for a bit and establish yourself as someone rather than just wandering in and offering your services?

willie_dee fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jan 23, 2014

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I don't. I would love to but I just don't have the time or money. As much as I would love to have nearly any aspect of MMA as a subject, I'm already offering a lot of my own resources for next to nothing in return and I'm not interested in wooing people into accepting free stuff. I'm not gonna be offended if no one gets back to me.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Do you at least have a reel of the stuff you've done? That will help a lot when it comes to getting people to say yes.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I do but it's not going to be available on the web until this weekend and I'm torn on whether I'd rather have a nearly 10 year old reel that isn't HD or roll the dice on the other replies for pro bono work being able to shore up a new one.

Right now I'm more focused on finding people who need me more than I need them so AMCP and the Salaverry Gym might be aiming too high, I also mentioned that the offer is open to any individual fighters or trainers who needed video work. Salaverry's youtube page hasn't uploaded anything since 2011 or something though so there might be a chance there.


Basically I'm trying balance my degree and willingness to relinquish rights to footage against my dude-off-the-streetness in order to get a camera on something that isn't going to put me to sleep, even if it isn't MMA related.

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Jan 23, 2014

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DumbWhiteGuy
Jul 4, 2007

You need haters. Fellas if you got 20 haters, you need 40 of them motherfuckers. If there's any haters in here that don't have nobody to hate on, feel free to hate on me

Intel&Sebastian posted:

I do but it's not going to be available on the web until this weekend and I'm torn on whether I'd rather have a nearly 10 year old reel that isn't HD or roll the dice on the other replies for pro bono work being able to shore up a new one.

Right now I'm more focused on finding people who need me more than I need them so AMCP and the Salaverry Gym might be aiming too high, I also mentioned that the offer is open to any individual fighters or trainers who needed video work. Salaverry's youtube page hasn't uploaded anything since 2011 or something though so there might be a chance there.


Basically I'm trying balance my degree and willingness to relinquish rights to footage against my dude-off-the-streetness in order to get a camera on something that isn't going to put me to sleep, even if it isn't MMA related.

Show The Reem videos to DJ and see if you can stalk him for awhile and do that

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