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Is Frozen any less trite and/or lame than Tangled? Does it have any songs with liberal use of the word "mumsie" in it? Man what the gently caress is the deal with the internet's obsession with Tangled
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Bown posted:Is Frozen any less trite and/or lame than Tangled? Does it have any songs with liberal use of the word "mumsie" in it? I thought we already had the last mumsie with Rainn Wilson.
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Jan 20, 2014 10:49
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Bown posted:Man what the gently caress is the deal with the internet's obsession with Tangled Like My Little Pony, Tangled and Frozen are aimed at little girls and are therefore generally nicer, mellower and easier to digest than boy-focused movies like Shrek, How to Train Your Dragon and Wrecking It Ralph. Edit: I guess I should also say that while they're aimed at little girls, they don't pander to little girls like the Tinkerbell movies, so adult men can publicly admit to liking them without the stigma normally attached to girl things (fairies/ponies/lots of pink). Irish Joe fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Jan 20, 2014 |
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Jan 20, 2014 12:27
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Bown posted:Is Frozen any less trite and/or lame than Tangled? Does it have any songs with liberal use of the word "mumsie" in it? Frozen loving rules, it's a princess movie about how princess movies are terrible role models for children. Prince Charming is the bad guy and everyone aside from the main character is aware of how hosed up it is to propose to somebody after meeting them once at a ball, it's like Disney is finally going "yeah, our old movies are classics and all but they were made back in the 40s, things are different now" The pacing's a little weird and the music is less Broadway and more pop-ish but other than that there isn't a bad thing you could say about Frozen that wouldn't apply to a bunch of other Disney cartoons. They even managed to make that punchable-looking snowman into a decent character with some good lines. quote:Man what the gently caress is the deal with the internet's obsession with Tangled It's a movie whose main antagonist is a manipulative, controlling mother and whose protagonist is a lifelong shut-in. It's basically E/N The Motion Picture: How I Severed A Toxic Relationship With My Crazy Parent
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Jan 20, 2014 12:43
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It also has amazing animation and some of the best companion animals in the Disney-verse. Probably why they did Tangled Ever After. The songs are completely forgettable, though.
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Jan 20, 2014 15:36
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Mu Zeta posted:I like it. I already liked most of the cast before I saw the show but it's got a decent start. Keith David, Piz from Veronica Mars, The Finder from Bones/The Finder, and the dumb/hot brother from Suburgatory. This is the first time I've ever seen anyone say they liked Piz from Veronica Mars.
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Jan 20, 2014 16:06
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Midnight City posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH3rLvzfizU
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Jan 20, 2014 16:07
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Kaizoku posted:I thought we already had the last mumsie with Rainn Wilson. Speaking of Rainn Wilson, I was on IMDB today and was surprised to see that he was 48 years old.
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Jan 20, 2014 17:36
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Frozen loving rules, it's a princess movie about how princess movies are terrible role models for children. Prince Charming is the bad guy and everyone aside from the main character is aware of how hosed up it is to propose to somebody after meeting them once at a ball, it's like Disney is finally going "yeah, our old movies are classics and all but they were made back in the 40s, things are different now" All that is true, and Frozen is very front-loaded, but I've really come around on it. When I saw it in the theater I straight up kinda didn't like it, but it grew on me after another watch on saturday. But both movies are great for disrupting the standard Disney villain/princess model.
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Jan 20, 2014 17:37
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I'd have to watch it again, but I think those two movies would make an awesome trilogy with Enchanted, which examines and celebrates the appeal of the traditional "princess" movie, just before the other two movies tear down its more questionable traditions. EDIT: Also, Amy Adams. If you want to understand the definition of emotional whiplash, watch American Hustle right after watching Enchanted. drat, now I wanna watch Enchanted. DivisionPost fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Jan 20, 2014 |
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Jan 20, 2014 20:14
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3 weeks into House of Lies' third season and no thread. Sometimes the forums is able to perfectly mirror what reality should be.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:36
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Midnight City posted:3 weeks into House of Lies' third season and no thread. House of Lies Live should just be the whole show.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:40
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Midnight City posted:3 weeks into House of Lies' third season and no thread. Why would there be a thread for House of Pies in a tv forum?  Question: who is creepier, the character Tooms from The X-Files or the actor who played him, Doug Hutchison? I'm leaning towards the latter.
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Jan 20, 2014 20:42
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Midnight City posted:3 weeks into House of Lies' third season and no thread. That show got renewed? Twice!?
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Jan 20, 2014 20:54
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gently caress yeah the instructor for the class I'm taking (writing episodic television) decided to e-mail us a recommended show list. I am so  after reading it:quote:CURRENT
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Jan 20, 2014 21:52
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Sober posted:gently caress yeah the instructor for the class I'm taking (writing episodic television) decided to e-mail us a recommended show list. I am so Is this instructor ignoring everything older then fifteen years on purpose or is their taste in television that narrow?
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Jan 20, 2014 21:56
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The instructor did say episodic television, which while done before, wasn't really a thing until about the 1990s. It is a little weird that shows like Oz, Homicide, or even NYPD Blue aren't on that list, but it doesn't surprise me too much.
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Jan 20, 2014 21:58
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You could erase the majority of that list and have a better program of study.
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Jan 20, 2014 22:05
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PriorMarcus posted:You could erase the majority of that list and have a better program of study. You gotta have counterexamples to illustrate what not to do.
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Jan 20, 2014 22:07
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PriorMarcus posted:You could erase the majority of that list and have a better program of study. Probably. Studying drama tv in the 1950s-1960s would be far more interesting than modern television.
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Jan 20, 2014 22:08
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CPFortest posted:The instructor did say episodic television, which while done before, wasn't really a thing until about the 1990s. It is a little weird that shows like Oz, Homicide, or even NYPD Blue aren't on that list, but it doesn't surprise me too much. Well episodic television has been around a lot longer than that. And most of those shows on the list seem more serialized then episodic. It would be really difficult to start watching a random episode of Game of Thrones versus something like House or a lot of comedies. And I agree about the list as well. How can anyone include Firefly or BSG in the same list as the Wire and West Wing unless it was to show rights and wrongs.
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Jan 20, 2014 22:10
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Scandal is not on the list so it is automatically invalid
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Jan 20, 2014 22:11
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Trast posted:Well episodic television has been around a lot longer than that. And most of those shows on the list seem more serialized then episodic. It would be really difficult to start watching a random episode of Game of Thrones versus something like House or a lot of comedies. CPFortest posted:Probably. Studying drama tv in the 1950s-1960s would be far more interesting than modern television. Older television got away with things writers wouldn't be able to now. And I'm not talking just about the bad stuff like sexism or racism. Look at some of the cool stuff the Twilight Zone did. Crap, reply is not edit.
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Jan 20, 2014 22:11
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Sober posted:gently caress yeah the instructor for the class I'm taking (writing episodic television) decided to e-mail us a recommended show list. I am so How is Law and Order not on a list of recommended viewing in a class about writing episodic television? That class sounds terrible. 
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Jan 20, 2014 22:20
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Sober posted:gently caress yeah the instructor for the class I'm taking (writing episodic television) decided to e-mail us a recommended show list. I am so As much as I'm a fan of many of those shows, that looks like a really poor list full of filler and redundancy. It seems like they're trying to cover all the major fanbases rather than come up with a solid list that showcases the best approaches to episodic writing.
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Jan 20, 2014 22:23
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:How is Law and Order not on a list of recommended viewing in a class about writing episodic television? That class sounds terrible. Law and Order would be a good one yeah. But not SVU unless you want to learn how to make main characters horrible people and how to ignore Munch. 
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Jan 20, 2014 22:27
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Is this a community college course?
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Jan 20, 2014 22:28
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Irish Joe posted:You gotta have counterexamples to illustrate what not to do. I'm assuming that's why Walking Dead is on the list.
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Jan 20, 2014 22:29
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Maybe they're intentionally choosing more recent stuff because it's more relatable to the students, easier to track down, and something they've probably already been exposed to? Something new probably works better if you're focusing on actually teaching first and foremost instead of making  THE GREAT SERIAL TELEVISION CANON
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Jan 20, 2014 22:30
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scary ghost dog posted:Is this a community college course?
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Maybe they're intentionally choosing more recent stuff because it's more relatable to the students, easier to track down, and something they've probably already been exposed to? Something new probably works better if you're focusing on actually teaching first and foremost instead of making I might buy that if some of the shows listed weren't in their first season which means no box sets. On demand makes things easier but the HBO series would require HBO subscriptions or a purchase usually. House of Cards requires netflix but that probably helps availability more than hinders.
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Jan 20, 2014 22:34
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All this begs the question: If you're teaching a course on writing or appreciating episodic television, what would be on your syllabus?
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Jan 20, 2014 22:45
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DivisionPost posted:All this begs the question: If you're teaching a course on writing or appreciating episodic television, what would be on your syllabus? A full page of a fabricated curriculum vitae with some tiny print at the bottom with an invalid email address and a link to netflix When do I get my tenure?
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Jan 20, 2014 22:56
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PriorMarcus posted:You could erase the majority of that list and have a better program of study.
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DivisionPost posted:All this begs the question: If you're teaching a course on writing or appreciating episodic television, what would be on your syllabus? Twilight Zone and Homicide. The End. That way you get the best anthology and best procedural.
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Jan 20, 2014 23:18
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DivisionPost posted:All this begs the question: If you're teaching a course on writing or appreciating episodic television, what would be on your syllabus? Twin Peaks, Adam West's Batman, Adventure Time, LOST and the original Star Trek.
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Jan 20, 2014 23:55
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Why is everybody still typing Lost in all caps as if it's some kind of acronym and not just a dumb marketing gimmick
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Jan 20, 2014 23:57
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Joramun posted:Why is everybody still typing Lost in all caps as if it's some kind of acronym and not just a dumb marketing gimmick It's fun.
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scary ghost dog posted:Twin Peaks, Adam West's Batman, Adventure Time, LOST and the original Star Trek. I'd limit twin peaks to the first season, unless you wanted to use it as the "This is how to start a show and NOT END IT" example. Actually, arguably, LOST falls under that, too.
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CaptainHollywood posted:I'm assuming that's why Walking Dead is on the list. And Game of Thrones.
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