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ashpanash posted:The first Doc and Mharti short was just a silly sex joke. A good one, but at its core a silly sex joke. Oh, don't get me wrong, I huffed in amusement a time or two during the ball-lick short  , but only having watched those two shorts, alongside having watched the R&M episodes, clearly any four minutes of his collaborative work with R&M is leaps better than the four minutes of his written only by him shorts.
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I'm sure they've grown as creatives since then. I mean he acknwoledged the 101 crowd didn't care for it and I mean that's your typical "so edgy!" types who find Amy Schumer or whatever comedian of the month in LA funny. You either say to yourself "these plebs don't get my vision!" over and over or you sharpen your poo poo
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Jan 21, 2014 21:41
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The Meeseeks plotline was hilarious, watching their optimism just drain over the course of the episode was amazing.
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Jan 21, 2014 21:47
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Chairman Mao posted:The Meeseeks plotline was hilarious, watching their optimism just drain over the course of the episode was amazing. I'm constantly impressed by R&M being able to pack two parallel plotlines in a single episode, it doesn't feel rushed either, though I guess since the collective family outside of R&M aren't terribly in depth beyond their "this character wants this out of life" subplot. I was totally expecting the hostage situation to escalate really quickly or when it diffused, a gun would go off accidentally and hit someone in the head or the meseeks would kill someone for the gently caress of it. This show is that twisted I thought it would go there 
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Alan Smithee posted:I'm constantly impressed by R&M being able to pack two parallel plotlines in a single episode, it doesn't feel rushed either, though I guess since the collective family outside of R&M aren't terribly in depth beyond their "this character wants this out of life" subplot. I was totally expecting the hostage situation to escalate really quickly or when it diffused, a gun would go off accidentally and hit someone in the head or the meseeks would kill someone for the gently caress of it. This show is that twisted I thought it would go there By the way, I have to assume that stickler Meeseeks was the youngest of the bunch. All the others had seen enough of their horrific existence and didn't give a poo poo about following through as long as Rick showed promise. (i'm mr meeseeks look at me)
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Jan 21, 2014 21:59
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And it's funny they basically did a genie "be careful what you wish for" plotline without using actual genies
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Jan 21, 2014 22:05
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Alan Smithee posted:And it's funny they basically did a genie "be careful what you wish for" plotline without using actual genies And that the wish that hosed up was 'Take 2 strokes off my golf game' and not 'make me more popular at school' or 'make me a more complete woman'.
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Chairman Mao posted:The Meeseeks plotline was hilarious, watching their optimism just drain over the course of the episode was amazing. The fact that Jerry's wish to take two stroke off his golf game is the one that foiled them is just great (Look at me I'm Mr Meeseeks!) You'd think that (Look at me!) "being more popular" or "becoming a more complete woman" would be the hard wishes. Instead Jerry is just a horrible failure at golf. "Existence is pain to a Meeseeks!" was also the most  thing ever. Dammit Jerry.
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Jan 21, 2014 22:30
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Not to be a stickler Meseeks but...they didn't take 2 strokes off his game, his wife did
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I love the Meeseeks saying their catchphrase in the heat of an argument. They're just compelled to do it.
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ultramiraculous posted:"Existence is pain to a Meeseeks!" was also the most Jerkface posted:And that the wish that hosed up was 'Take 2 strokes off my golf game' and not 'make me more popular at school' or 'make me a more complete woman'.
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Zsinjeh posted:Don't tell me that, that just puts more pressure on me! lol what. RSS took a huge break and it basically killed podcasts for me. Maybe I need to get back in the podgame...
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Jerkface posted:lol what. RSS took a huge break and it basically killed podcasts for me. Maybe I need to get back in the podgame... Their new show Hollywood Handbook has really found their voice though and it's back to being pretty much amazing again. Highly recomend AA++. Especially the recent episodes with Andy Daly and Brian Huskey. e: Ending my derail of this thread here.
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Alan Smithee posted:Not to be a stickler Meseeks but...they didn't take 2 strokes off his game, his wife did But the Meseeks caused his wife to help him take two strokes off.
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Last Chance posted:But the Meseeks caused his wife to help him take two strokes off. I am a genie lawyer and yup, this checks out
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Alan Smithee posted:Not to be a stickler Meseeks but...they didn't take 2 strokes off his game, his wife did e: dammit
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That episode was...oh god. This entire show is too good, and needs to stop topping itself fast or everything else on television is going to look like garbage by comparison. The show has an Adam Reed-like willingness to just totally skip past all the boring bits - just bam, now they're in the giant courthouse in prison jumpsuits. Perfect pacing.
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I like this show very much but that jelly bean scene made me really uncomfortable. It was just so dark and unexpected. At least they didn't try to make any jokes out of it.
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Justin Roiland posted:I can't sleep and I'm reading the comments here and just want to chime in on this. I went out of my way to make sure this scene was not animated in a way that would play for laughs. Dan, Ridley, and I also wrote it to be a serious scene. It had to feel real and be horrific, weighty, and not cartoony. You're supposed to be shocked and absolutely hate this jellybean. Pathos. Poor Morty. He went skateboarding without any padding and a creep shoved him and he fell off and hurt himself. Rick helped bandage him up. The multiverse isn't a safe place. Even Slippery Stair's colorful world. Ryan Ridley posted:I want to clear something up in regards to the controversial Jellybean bathroom scene. Everyone assumes that King Jellybean was attempting to sexually assault Morty by penetrating him with his genitalia which explains why the reactions to it have been so strong. However, King Jellybean has no genitalia. What he was trying to do was force Morty to lick the outer surface of his jellybean body where thousands of nerve endings are concentrated. Yes, he would have derived a tremendous amount of pleasure from it, but so would Morty because of the incredible flavor. King Jellybean had become addicted to the high he received from the enzymes entering his blood stream through alien saliva. Unfortunately, the high for him became weaker and weaker with repeated engagements of the same species, so he was constantly on the look out for new ones. That's why he spent time in places like the Thirsty Stair where a diverse multitude of inter dimensional beings congregated. Morty was his first human, so he was especially aggressive with him. To Jellybean, Morty was more like a big walking crack rock than an object of sexual desire and he was desperate for a hit. Over the years, the repeated inter-species body licking caused the depletion of a key chemical in the jellybean body resulting in a loss of color which is why King Jellybean was that grayish shade instead of a normal colorful jellybean hue. This is similar to what users of MDMA experience with depleted levels of serotonin. I know, Reddit etc., but I thought you guys might want to hear the thoughts from the co-creator and from one of the writers.
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loving lol at Ryan Ridley's long detailed post about why that wasn't a rape scene
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Chairman Mao posted:loving lol at Ryan Ridley's long detailed post about why that wasn't a rape scene I have a feeling that's going to get the poo poo misquoted out of it by people who don't get the joke.
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feedmyleg posted:I have a feeling that's going to get the poo poo misquoted out of it by people who don't get the joke. It's still an rear end way to deal with the issue.  : "There was traumatizing imagery in this show". "Hey, that could have been celery for all we know!"
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feedmyleg posted:I have a feeling that's going to get the poo poo misquoted out of it by people who don't get the joke. quote:poopatyahoodotcom 13 points 2 hours ago*
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I have a dickwolves T-shirt some of you may be interested in purchasing.
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After sitting on it for a day, my reaction was appropriate. This post is related to my conclusion, the show moves at an incredibly frenetic pace, so any one scene is going to be very short. It's part of what makes it good. And it allowed a scene later to show Rick's nicer side, which will hopefully become the start of a more meaningful exploration of the characters.
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TheModernAmerican posted:After sitting on it for a day, my reaction was appropriate. This post is related to my conclusion, the show moves at an incredibly frenetic pace, so any one scene is going to be very short. It's part of what makes it good. And it allowed a scene later to show Rick's nicer side, which will hopefully become the start of a more meaningful exploration of the characters. What was your reaction, that you were upset/disturbed by the scene, or that you thought the scene shouldn't have been included unless it had dwelt less on the negative aspects of assault?
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Drifter posted:What was your reaction, that you were upset/disturbed by the scene, or that you thought the scene shouldn't have been included unless it had dwelt less on the negative aspects of assault? Honestly, just that it went on about 5 seconds too long. It got too real once Morty got shoved into the stall. They effectively hit the tone of an attempted sexual assault, but it felt a bit out of place given that its a comedy.
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this was the first episode I've watched, and it went from "hahah this is pretty goofy how drunk doc makes fun of marty." then it builds to the point where the giant's wife calls 911 and they get booked and sent to court and then a giant lawyer from the innocence project gets them off the hook on a technicality, and I'm just stupified asking the cliched "how do they come up with this stuff" question like when I watched the first couple seasons of community or delocated. then this loving dark and ugly scene comes out of nowhere after a few jokes about shmeckles and goobles. and then the show kind of makes up for it by rick encouraging morty to finish the quest, then murdering the jellybean king. that's completely ignoring the b-plot of the meeseeks, which was amazing.
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padijun posted:
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I still find it funny after the poptart and toaster deconstruction where Rick points out the entire absurdity behind the world building logic of it and then throws the guys in a giant staircase bar full of small staircases and ummm....yeah remind me again what the gently caress I saw?
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Chairman Mao posted:loving lol at Ryan Ridley's long detailed post about why that wasn't a rape scene The line "Yes, he would have derived a tremendous amount of pleasure from it, but so would Morty because of the incredible flavor." still has me laughing. It's still hosed up but quite hilarious.
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Yeah he definitely went the "well you see dickwolves are wolves that violate humans sexually and are in no way turned off by interspecies relations and have no concept of concent" route
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WickedHate posted:
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While I found the scene to be quite funny entirely because of how completely it was, I can completely understand why someone would not find that scene funny, or be offended or upset by it. Part of the joke of Rick and Morty is the whole 'godless Universe' angle, everything has always been nihilistic for comedy purposes but this is the closest you can get to 'a line' - I hope they don't do this kind of thing very much at all or it'll feel a little like a betrayal. This is the kind of string you can't pull too often or it gets mean spirited and traumatic.
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I've had this thought percolating but haven't had the words to express it, and still might not follow through, but: The jellybean rape thing isn't being played for laughs, and I got the impression that was kind of the point. Yes, it's immediately uncomfortable, and yes, it goes on for a few beats too long. Yes, Morty kicks his rear end, but he doesn't strut and taunt his attacker; he shamefully and tearfully exits back to Rick, hurt and exhausted. It's distressing because there isn't the moment of "levity" that you usually get in comedies that push that boundary. It's not a rape joke, it's an anti-joke joke about rape jokes. Given Roiland's penchant for gross humor and Harmon's own past with problematic jokes, maybe I'm reading it the wrong way, but that's how I took it anyway. Just a, you know, 'Oh, you were expecting a punchline with your rape? Maybe you're(/society is) the hosed up one here.' edit: ugh and now that I re-read Roiland's comment he literally said, "I went out of my way to make sure this scene was not animated in a way that would play for laughs." But, then he goes on about creating pathos and while it did that, I still took a deeper read on it so whatever I'll still word my words.
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There should be a Chekov's-gun-esque rule about bathroom stall fights. During the course of the fight one party must have their head smashed repeatedly with the toilet seat or stall door... ideally breaking the object in a display of intensity. Hell yeah Morty.
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Carlton Banks Teller posted:I've had this thought percolating but haven't had the words to express it, and still might not follow through, but: It sure as hell drained the heroic spirit and wonder out of Morty, while Rick finally got into the adventure. There's probably some Greek hero story structure bullshit that applies here.
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Did anyone else find a startling similarity between Dan Harmon and the Giant? I was getting serious caricature vibes from that brief scene.
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What does Rick say about the mop and bucket at the end? I think I misheard it because I dont get the joke at all.
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