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FujiRumors puts the X-T1 body only at $1300. With new weather sealed kit lens $1800.
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Elliotw2 posted:Do people really take that many shots of people jumping? When you're using a sarnsung camera the natural reaction is for people to get away from you as fast as they can so this is entirely possible.
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Jan 21, 2014 19:50
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Musket posted:For the price of your fast 35mm Equiv, I have an X100s *shrug* 35mm 1.4 on FF or bust
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Jan 21, 2014 20:51
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smaller, lighter, and on charts, better. And with change left over.
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Fuji can't be brought out by Canon. Fuji still have substantial optical business in many areas. For example, half of the lens used by broadcast television cameras. I purpose Fuji buy out Sony and change the A7 name back to NEX-9. Also, make PS Vita camera to compete with Samsung.
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Jan 21, 2014 20:51
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Well, Sony owns part of Olympus now so Fuji would be well on their way to a camera monopoly.
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Jan 21, 2014 20:59
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whatever7 posted:Fuji can't be brought out by Canon. Fuji still have substantial optical business in many areas. For example, half of the lens used by broadcast television cameras. Aside from the substantial broadcast lens business there's all the photo printing (from the kiosks that you see in stores and shopping malls, to the large scale wet and dry lab printing machines). They've also got wide format commercial printers and the whole Fuji Xerox business. Sony probably could buy them but it would probably be more of a merger if it did.
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Jan 21, 2014 22:31
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All the modern hassy glass is also Fuji iirc.
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Jan 21, 2014 22:36
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Has anyone bought the wide converter for the x100 or tried it hands on?
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Jan 21, 2014 22:37
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Apparently Fuji's cinema zooms, which are relatively new to market, are also spectacular. The director for Oblivion said their Fuji Premiere zooms were sharper than the Zeiss master primes they also had on set. I mean, I'd hope so given the price, but they definitely know how to make a great lens.
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Jan 21, 2014 22:50
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powderific posted:Apparently Fuji's cinema zooms, which are relatively new to market, are also spectacular. The director for Oblivion said their Fuji Premiere zooms were sharper than the Zeiss master primes they also had on set. I mean, I'd hope so given the price, but they definitely know how to make a great lens. Can humans even distinguish sharpness at that level though?
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Jan 21, 2014 22:54
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Martytoof posted:When you're using a sarnsung camera the natural reaction is for people to get away from you as fast as they can so this is entirely possible. I don't know man, can your Fuji/Olympus/Sony do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZpy0DKUjhY edit: Some more 56mm porn  http://www.laroquephoto.com/blog/2014/1/20/the-razors-edge-p2-sessions
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Jan 22, 2014 04:30
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keyframe posted:I don't know man, can your Fuji/Olympus/Sony do this: I thought almost all of the recently new mirrorless cameras had built-in Wifi that could pair with a smartphone and couldn't the same be done with an Eye-Fi or similar product for a camera without Wifi. Or...  I honestly don't know since I've never have been in a situation or have been compelled to immediately post what I've shot with my NEX-5 right at that moment. Almost any situation like that my Nokia Lumia 920's camera has been more than adequate.
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Jan 22, 2014 05:54
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Edward IV posted:I thought almost all of the recently new mirrorless cameras had built-in Wifi that could pair with a smartphone and couldn't the same be done with an Eye-Fi or similar product for a camera without Wifi. If you can actually twit on the camera is a good idea. Every P&S should do that. If it can upload to imgur and copy the BBcode and post it on the forum is even better.
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Jan 22, 2014 06:04
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whatever7 posted:If you can actually twit on the camera is a good idea. Every P&S should do that. Yeah but the galaxy nx is a DSLR shape and pretty expensive.
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Jan 22, 2014 07:38
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powderific posted:Apparently Fuji's cinema zooms, which are relatively new to market, are also spectacular. The director for Oblivion said their Fuji Premiere zooms were sharper than the Zeiss master primes they also had on set. I mean, I'd hope so given the price, but they definitely know how to make a great lens. Yea, apparently it's from all that experience making zoom lenses that had to resolve really well for smaller sensors. All their lenses are really great.
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Jan 22, 2014 10:57
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More pics of the God camera: http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/three-new-fuji-x-t1-pictures
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Jan 22, 2014 14:26
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Jan 22, 2014 14:28
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Fart Car '97 posted:That battery grip, entering DSLR territory Both OM-D bodies have battery grips. Fuji is totally being a copycat poop butt  it does look neat as hell
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Jan 22, 2014 14:31
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Grip look better than Df, forehead look better than Olympus hell yeah. The kit lens doesn't look weatherproof to me. 
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Jan 22, 2014 14:41
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DJExile posted:Both OM-D bodies have battery grips. Fuji is totally being a copycat poop butt I meant that more from an "I thought they were talking an X-pro style grip" but I don't actually know why I would have thought that. whatever7 posted:Grip look better than Df, forehead look better than Olympus hell yeah. Don't the rumors say the kit lens isn't weatherproofed, but rather the 18-185 or whatever? Fart Car '97 fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Jan 22, 2014 |
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Jan 22, 2014 14:43
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A note about sealed glass: Its just tape. So knowing this, does it in fact really matter that the XT1 has a very limited line up of sealed glass? No. We all used "sealed" DSLRs at some point, with regular ole glass and not once did anyone post threads warning of this issue. On my D700, D300 and other various sealed DSLRs, I would use a Livestrong bracelet to create a gasket type seal at the metal to metal mount contact. Ill probably do that with the 18-55 and XT1.
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Jan 22, 2014 17:07
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I spent a year working in a desert environment, and my weather sealed lenses all came out fine. My un-sealed lenses all had dust and poo poo in them. It might just be tape, but there are plenty of situations where that tape matters.
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Jan 22, 2014 17:10
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Musket posted:A note about sealed glass: Its just tape. So knowing this, does it in fact really matter that the XT1 has a very limited line up of sealed glass? No. We all used "sealed" DSLRs at some point, with regular ole glass and not once did anyone post threads warning of this issue. I am hoping it's more like em1 where you can leave the camera under hot shower for ten minutes and it shoots fine.
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Jan 22, 2014 19:13
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keyframe posted:I am hoping it's more like em1 where you can leave the camera under hot shower for ten minutes and it shoots fine. In before Mr Pentax SuperME says "If you want the weather performance of an OMD, buy an OMD" or something to that effect.
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Jan 22, 2014 20:53
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Musket posted:In before Mr Pentax SuperME says "If you want the weather performance of an OMD, buy an OMD" or something to that effect. Well you could go with pentax or a nikon 1aw if you wanted that level of performance too.
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Jan 22, 2014 21:11
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Just how large is the XT1? Isn't the whole point of mirrorless the size? The moment you start adding things like a fake pentaprism housing aren't you heading towards the question of why isn't it and SLR?
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Jan 22, 2014 21:25
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Aargh posted:Just how large is the XT1? Isn't the whole point of mirrorless the size? The moment you start adding things like a fake pentaprism housing aren't you heading towards the question of why isn't it and SLR? Roughly x-pro1 is what someone said earlier, not necessarily, and nope.
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Jan 22, 2014 21:27
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Oh god that ISO dial. I was about to get an X100s but now I don't know.
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Jan 22, 2014 21:41
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Aargh posted:Isn't the whole point of mirrorless the size? To expand on this, it's not the whole point, but it's definitely an advantage. Having an EVF lets you see the image exactly as it'll look once you fire, and there's something to be said about having fewer parts (and fewer moving parts) between the scene and the sensor. E: Also I love the ever-changing thread title.
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I told myself the day Fuji released a weather sealed body and a Pro zoom was the day I switched systems entirely. I am now (happily) eating my words  . The only thing I would change is which zoom they decided to weather seal because gently caress variable aperture lenses. All of them. Fart Car '97 fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Jan 22, 2014 |
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Jan 22, 2014 21:50
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DJExile posted:To expand on this, it's not the whole point, but it's definitely an advantage. Having an EVF lets you see the image exactly as it'll look once you fire, and there's something to be said about having fewer parts (and fewer moving parts) between the scene and the sensor. I prefer to look good while taking picture. Rangefinder form factor 4ever!
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Jan 22, 2014 22:03
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Aargh posted:Just how large is the XT1? Isn't the whole point of mirrorless the size? The moment you start adding things like a fake pentaprism housing aren't you heading towards the question of why isn't it and SLR? Its still small. Like Holy poo poo small. No where near DIZZZLR territory.  Without the grip, its still very small. Have not seen a real world photo with grip attached but its easy to see its not going to add much heft. Fake hump has a function. A much larger, faster, and responsive EVF.
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Aargh posted:Just how large is the XT1? Isn't the whole point of mirrorless the size? The moment you start adding things like a fake pentaprism housing aren't you heading towards the question of why isn't it and SLR?
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Pablo Bluth posted:Well, 'let's get rid of the mirror and make it smaller' was something for the various manufacturers to try as a means of defeating the Canikon DSLR juggernaut. However miniaturization alone will only get them so far, and ultimately they need to aim for a diverse ecosystem, some of which will mean sacrificing some size for other features. It's fun to see history repeat itself because this is basically exactly what happened when Olympus made the OM-1 film bodies while the Nikon and Canon SLRs were becoming progressively bigger and bigger. Then they basically kicked off the mirrorless era. and soon enough it'll be a dead and buried brand because the yakuza doesn't want it anymore or something
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Pablo Bluth posted:Well, 'let's get rid of the mirror and make it smaller' was something for the various manufacturers to try as a means of defeating the Canikon DSLR juggernaut. However miniaturization alone will only get them so far, and ultimately they need to aim for a diverse ecosystem, some of which will mean sacrificing some size for other features. To a certain extent I agree here though one of the things that first drew me to the XPro1 was the size and the simplicity of the controls. Admittedly the EVF on the XPro1 is useable but could be improved and if the XT1 EVF is as good as the hype it could replace the OVF but I'm not quite sure the fake pentaprism design is the way to go about it. There are a bunch of design decisions that have been made over time with film cameras that the whole mirrorless thing had a chance to rectify. For instance the viewfinder in the middle, meaning you have to squish your nose up against the rear. Not having to bounce light that would go through to the film means designs like the XPro1 and XE1 could work rather than the XT1.
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It's all about tradeoffs, even still. Like it's been said, the middle hump gives them a lot of room to add a better EVF. It also gives them room to add a dial for the left hand and reduce the amount of wasted space on the body. Lastly, it fits the mold of what people expect a 'pro' camera to look like, which might give it a better chance of adoption by SLR-focused prosumers in the states. And they already have the X100s, XE2, and XPro1 which don't have a hump so you can still have the humpless wonder you want.
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Just going through another batch of event photos, and I'll admit I trust the OM-D over the X-E1. The focus, exposure and WB are all more robust when shooting RAW, though I suppose that might also be in part due to Lightroom's processing. I'm thinking I really should've gone with the X100s, because I still love the look the Fujis produce in non-mixed light.
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It's quite clear the X-T1's intended target is the professionals for whom the XP-1/X100s didn't quite offer the raw performance necessary to drag them away. It became obvious very fast that people were in love with Fuji's sensor, but the AF speed and accuracy weren't up to par with their competitors. The X-T1 seems to be a shot across the bows of both the mirrorless and DLSR market, and I'm looking forward to the competition it produces 
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Is learning how to use a manual lens something that takes a bit to get used to? I've been looking at one of the new 85 mm m4/3 lenses. I've played around a bit with manual focusing, I'm just wondering if people find it's worth it.
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