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Tiberius Thyben posted:It may be that I am incredibly You want the Internet Movie Firearms Database. There's probably some serious sperg in there, but I doubt there's any ponies. EDIT: Oh god. They have an anime section. Squidster fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jan 21, 2014 |
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Tiberius Thyben posted:It may be that I am incredibly Same here. Sometimes I want a list of every spaceship name in every work of popular fiction, and you can count on the  tropers to have compiled that list. TVTropes only sucks for reading about tropes, or fiction, or art, or popular culture, or tropers. It's really hard to shoehorn  into a giant list.
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Jan 21, 2014 19:56
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If was renamed TvTrivia and permabanned all current forums members then it woud be a much better site.
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Jan 21, 2014 20:01
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Inspector Zenigata posted:I have a question for you guys: does anyone else get irritated when people write posts or whatever that capitalize trope names that they mention in their posts in discussions not directly about TVTropes? I don't have any specific examples, but I read through the entire Irrationally Irritating Movie Moments thread in the past week (I'm bedridden atm) this cropped up more frequently than you might think. They write whole posts normally, then capitalize Up To Eleven or Plot Armor and it completely changes how I see their post because it lets me know that their views are the product of the kaleidoscope that is TVTropes. It's the posters that hyperlink the phrase to the TVTropes article that really give me the crawling horrors.
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Runcible Cat posted:Plot Armor is something TVTropes swiped rather than originated. I hope, because it's a useful concept. I remember some of the Fallout New Vegas devs being asked by a troper if the I Am Not Left Handed challenge was a reference to tvtropes.
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Jan 21, 2014 20:11
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the battle of wounded knee is a reference to skyrim
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Jan 21, 2014 20:13
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Tiberius Thyben posted:It may be that I am incredibly TVTropes would be fine if it was just a catalog of trivia relating to media, and nothing else. That was pretty much the only thing I used it for anyway before I read the TVTropes threads here and found out just how much of a cesspit that place is.
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Sorry for lack of new content and apologies in advance for a goofy, preaching-to-the-choir rant (I know Tropers lurk here however), but the anti-intellectual smugness in those "True Art" pages is just so frustrating to read. I'm not a teacher - it crosses my mind as something to do with my life - but I wonder how difficult it must be to teach people about the pleasures of modernist art when you have this nonsense online purporting to be such a valuable "academic resource". There's nothing wrong with not liking modern art, that's fine, I don't like it all either. Take my brother for instance, who loves learning about history; to him, modern art might often have fewer visual prompts for learning about the past (unlike, say, Holbein The Younger's iconic Tudor portraits or Romantic depictions of various early 19th-century events). But, he's not simply dismissive, and I know he has some favourite pieces of modern art (because it's so, so broad). So to those reading: give it a chance, pick up a book on art (libraries are great for this if you're just getting started), go to a gallery or exhibition, and get off TV Tropes. Some of the most lasting images of my childhood came from when I was taken to the Dali museum in Figueres. It might even be okay if their "articles" were funny in the same way as, say, L.H.O.O.Q., but they're not. They're a snooty person's bad impression of entire artistic movements, entire modes of expression, or reactions to a world in turmoil. Do they even know who Tristan Tzara is? quote:We don't have an article named Main/TristanTzara. If you want to start this new page, just click the edit button above. Be careful, though, the only things that go in the Main namespace are tropes. Don't put in redirects for shows, books, etc.. Use the right namespace for those.
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Jan 21, 2014 20:26
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Inspector Zenigata posted:It wasn't those things specifically I went on TVTropes and chose a couple random tropes from one of their lists. But yeah, there's a certain trope-heavy style of netposting that always makes me look hard and prepare to disagree. I tell myself that they're probably just random-surfing the articles and not full-blown Tropers, but then again it's not like the articles are horrible-poo poo-free either.
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Nobody cares if you used tvtropes for just trivia or if you were a former troper now lurking. Just don't bring it up. Now let's return to our currently scheduled mocking of bad writers and horrible opinions of socially inept idea guys
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In their Harry Potter thread, there's a guy advocating for genocide.quote:The goblins need to smashed. Kill as many of them as possible and wrest Gringotts from them. Having the financial institution running Wizarding Britain in the hands of a faction with dubious loyalty at best is asking for trouble. quote:Goblins aren't human. Ergo, the abrogation of their rights is not an attack on human rights. quote:I find it very uncomfortable that goblins are basically fantasy Jews — short people with big noses who have an international control over finance with a strange and grasping concept of ownership that makes them seem avaricious.
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Jan 21, 2014 22:48
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It has been quite some time since I read any of the Harry Potter books, but wasn't it a minor plot point in either the sixth or seventh one that Voldemort was able to turn many of the goblins, giants, Dementors and some other magical species over to his side because the rest of the wizarding world treated them like second-class citizens?
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I decided to have a look at the leper colony and... uh...Griff Lee posted:seems normal to me!
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Metal Loaf posted:It has been quite some time since I read any of the Harry Potter books, but wasn't it a minor plot point in either the sixth or seventh one that Voldemort was able to turn many of the goblins, giants, Dementors and some other magical species over to his side because the rest of the wizarding world treated them like second-class citizens? Yeah but it was proof that the ones who joined were evil, in the same way that whenever Hermione protested for elf rights people and elves laughed at her because they're happy being slaves
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I decided to have a look at the leper colony and... uh... he got banned for the other one, which was much much worse
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I decided to have a look at the leper colony and... uh... Oh, I would SERIOUSLY have appreciated an NMS warning before I looked at that. I looked at that. Now I am a person who has seen that.  ETA two days later: Really, gently caress you for posting that. I've got a mentally disabled young child, and all yesterday that thing was in my head making me feel dirty every time I played with or took care of my kid. It's not even from TVTropes, it's just something tropers categorise, like they categorise everything in the universe except good literature. What, did you think the world needed another copy? What the gently caress is wrong with you? Apple Tree fucked around with this message at 09:19 on Jan 23, 2014 |
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Jan 21, 2014 23:23
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Apple Tree posted:Oh, I would SERIOUSLY have appreciated an NMS warning before I looked at that. I looked at that. Now I am a person who has seen that. I just don't get why people like creating or consuming this type of thing. I don't understand the enjoyment factor
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Jan 21, 2014 23:45
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sweeperbravo posted:I just don't get why people like creating or consuming this type of thing. I don't understand the enjoyment factor Gross fetishism. It reminds me of a dude in the minecraft thread who casually linked to his fairy torture fiction after talking about how he loves killing fairies that a mod added in.
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Jan 21, 2014 23:50
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sweeperbravo posted:I just don't get why people like creating or consuming this type of thing. I don't understand the enjoyment factor Being severely mentally ill?
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Sham bam bamina! posted:I decided to have a look at the leper colony and... uh... Oh for gently caress's sake, the last panel also has it pissing itself. 
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Squidster posted:You want the Internet Movie Firearms Database. There's probably some serious sperg in there, but I doubt there's any ponies. And yet at the same time that is the most clinical write up of Strikes Witches I have seen so far. Also, IMFD has this amazing (in a good way) article on FarCry 2. Cooked Auto fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jan 22, 2014 |
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Jan 22, 2014 01:00
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Cooked Auto posted:Also, IMFD has this amazing (in a good way) article on FarCry 2. quote:no matter how much you want to look like a tough guy, picking your nose with a loaded MAC-10 is still a bad idea.  Thank you for linking this, Auto, I needed a laugh after that... thing.
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Morkyz posted:In their Harry Potter thread, there's a guy advocating for genocide. Betcha any money that the first post was in response to the third.
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The Leper Colon V posted:
You're welcome. And if I remember correctly, it's even written by a goon.
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Just because it was mentioned earlier get ye some Blood Meridian and other good fiction for cheap.
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bucketmouse posted:Just because it was mentioned earlier get ye some Blood Meridian and other good fiction for cheap. Ew, but then you'd end up getting Piers Anthony too and he's a pedophilic creep.
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Jan 22, 2014 03:23
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wrong thread. Ewe on Piers Anthony though. I may still buy the bundle and just not download it.
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Venusian Weasel posted:Ew, but then you'd end up getting Piers Anthony too and he's a pedophilic creep. Well, this did get posted in a TvTropes thread.
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Little Blackfly posted:wrong thread. Ok. Allow me to use TVTropes to demonstrate, then quote:Author Appeal: Nudism / Innocent Fanservice Girl, in spades. He also tends to use Rape as Drama and Lawful Stupid a lot. Quoting the preface of one of his stories, where a man is declared morally not guilty for having sex with a 5-year old because she wanted it quote:It may be that the problem is not with what is deviant, but with our definitions. I suggest in the novel that little Nymph was abused not by the man with whom she had sex, but by members of her family who warped her taste, and by the society that preferred to condemn her lover rather than address the source of the problem in her family. But to TVTropes, she's just an innocent fanservice girl! Blatant statutory rape is just Rape as Drama! Actually Anthony is prime troper material quote:Black Comedy Rape: The entire point of his "adult-themed" comedy Pornucopia. quote:Disposable Woman: Nearly all of his books have these; very often as Distressed Damsels. Women in Bio of a Space Tyrant seem to exist solely to be brutally raped and murdered. quote:I'm a Man, I Can't Help It: All over the place. He likes to hammer this point home by having a woman become a man briefly — upon returning to normal she will be full of surprised gratitude to her male companions for restraining their beastly urges. quote:Naked People Are Funny / National Geographic Nudity: Piers has said on several occasions that he doesn't understand why people consider human nudity to be shocking/harmful/etc. He tends to mix it into his stories. quote:Rape as Drama: Nearly all of his books feature this prominently. quote:Starfish Alien: Whenever aliens are encountered (as opposed to alternate-universe humans), they're almost guaranteed to be this trope. Piers Anthony may be unique in not only creating convincing and unique three-gendered-alien sex in the Cluster series, but also finding a way to create a rape scene with it. Nearly a third of the tropes on his author page deal with rape in some way. Thank god I've never read his poo poo and learned not to from the SF/F thread. Anticheese posted:Well, this did get posted in a TvTropes thread. Somehow the circle is complete.
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I meant I posted in the wrong thread. Not surprised they've lovingly cataloged Piers Anthony's horrible rapey body of work though. I remember even back in high school not being able to continue reading his incarnations series past the second book because I got weirded out by the character of Death's girlfriend who got raped by an incubus at some terribly young age. The friend who recommended that book series to me was either naive or a perv in the making.
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Huh, I knew there was some reason why the name was familiar yet I hadn't read any of his stuff. Makes sense TVTropes likes him though, ugh.
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I remember reading Possible To Rue, which I thought was pretty clever and funny. Then I picked up Fractal Mode in a library sale when I was about 14 or so. I may well be misremembering (and I seriously hope I am), but I'm pretty sure one plot thread had a girl who was about 4-5 who was totally fine with the idea of being a communal whore for her father and his friends, who were all being frozen out by their wives because it would make them all happy. There was also two of the heroes: one was a typical Conan-style barbarian hero, honour before reason, blah blah, who was in love with the female lead, a girl who was about 13. She wanted him to bang her brains out, but he kept telling her that because he loved her, he'd never sleep with her, but he'd also never love anyone he slept with besides her. Which, compared to some of the guy's other output, comes across as reasonable. Thinking about it, I just realised it was about another ten years or so before I picked up another fantasy book. Thanks, Piers.
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Improbable Lobster posted:I remember some of the Fallout New Vegas devs being asked by a troper if the I Am Not Left Handed challenge was a reference to tvtropes. Oh for...  It came from The Princess Bride. They admit it came from Princess Bride on the trope page, goddamn quote:The trope name and the page quote come from The Princess Bride. Inigo Montoya is so good that he fights with his left hand just to keep things somewhat challenging, but when faced with the Man in Black, he realises he's being outmatched, and switches the sword back to his right hand to gain the upper hand again. Too bad the Man in Black was also fighting with his off-hand, presumably for the same reason. If you look closely, you'll notice when the Man in Black first starts to draw his sword, he is drawing it with his right hand until he notices that Inigo plans to fight with his left-hand. Christ, when tropers aren't being neckbeard creepazoids (  LIKE THAT FLUFFY PONY poo poo ) they're being egotistical idiots who think the world revolves around them.But that's just preaching to the choir.
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Improbable Lobster posted:If No, it would be a much better site if it were a white space with the words "404: File Not Found" as its only content.
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I just watched mediocre Disney movie the Aristocats. I wonder what TV Tropes has to say about it!Wild Mass Guessing/The Aristocats posted:The entire movie suffers from Broad Strokes due to Rule of Funny Disney/The Aristocats posted:Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds: Edgar "turned evil" after he learns all the inheritance will pass to the cats. Disney/The Aristocats posted:This is actually a subversion of the trope, however: Edgar thinks he's a woobie, but if he'd listened to the whole will he would have learned that the inheritance will indeed pass on to the cats with him as their caretaker, so since cats can't actually use money, that basically meant he gets all the money if he'd just make sure the cats could lead the pampered lives they were used to. Funny/The Aristocats posted:"Shang Hai Hong Kong Egg Fu Yong. Fortune cookie always wrong".
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For other bad MLP fanfics that aren't as disturbing as fluffypony see: Xenophilia, in which a self insert human has graphically depicted sex with a pony. Friendship Is Optimal, in which an AI pony takes over the world and presumably everything else on this page
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Morkyz posted:Friendship Is Optimal, in which an AI pony takes over the world Written by Eliezer Yudkowsi?
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quote:Starfish Alien: Whenever aliens are encountered (as opposed to alternate-universe humans), they're almost guaranteed to be this trope. Piers Anthony may be unique in not only creating convincing and unique three-gendered-alien sex in the Cluster series, but also finding a way to create a rape scene with it. This is objectively untrue! Asimov's The Gods Themselves not only features tri-gender alien rape but makes it seem appropriately reprehensible.
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Djeser posted:This is objectively untrue! Asimov's The Gods Themselves not only features tri-gender alien rape but makes it seem appropriately reprehensible. Iain M. Banks also did the exact same thing a few decades later in The Player of Games. But that's probably enough about alien rape for now.
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