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Now I'm wanting the EU4 expansion to have the West British Company decision as India 
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Unfortunately the fact that trade in EU4 is directional and can only flow towards Europe would probably make that pointless outside of the comedy value.
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Jan 23, 2014 21:58
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Cantorsdust posted:I really hope someone does an LP of India conquering the British Isles. Thinking of importing India CK2-> EU4 made me instantly disappointed that the result won't be able to protectorate England (or probably setup the Indian West Britain company, either)
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Jan 23, 2014 22:02
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DStecks posted:If I were you, I'd try to capitalize on the fact that Rajas is probably the first major Western game release to focus on India. Just be careful that the marketing doesn't cast India too much as a magical, barely understood land just waiting to be discovered. It's pretty easy to slide right into orientalizing everything.
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Jan 23, 2014 22:04
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Sindai posted:Unfortunately the fact that trade in EU4 is directional and can only flow towards Europe would probably make that pointless outside of the comedy value. It's probably too fundamental to be changed outside of EUV, but a DLC that focused on overhauling the trade node system to be more dynamic would be cool. Honestly, it almost seems like you could set things up so trade collected at nodes, and then your fleets actually picked up the gold automatically and shipped it home, appearing in your treasury when they arrived. Then they could be intercepted, protected with big ships, etc. They've already got swarms of ships flying around the map, having them actually move the gold/trade goods like CKII Viking raiders would be a logical evolution that would let trade flow more dynamically.
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Jan 23, 2014 22:18
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Cantorsdust posted:I really hope someone does an LP of India conquering the British Isles. Personally I want to see a raging Buddhist empire conquering the map and killing everyone who won't convert. "If you won't give yourself to Buddha in this life, perhaps your reincarnation will?  "
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Jan 23, 2014 22:25
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Darkrenown posted:"If you won't give yourself to Buddha in this life, perhaps your reincarnation will? If you can get that quote into the game somehow that'd be awesome. The warrior Buddhist sects are pretty wild.
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Jan 23, 2014 22:26
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Runemaster: Very cautiously optimistic. The teaser trailer looked fairly cookie-cutter, and with the Kickstarter wave of Pillars of Eternity + Wasteland 2 + Torment 2 we won't be as starved for isometric RPG as we were, so competition will be stiff. The lynchpin here is "procedurally generated emergent narrative" - PDS are currently the uncontested leaders in that area of game design, and if they replicate the CK2 magic in RPG form it will be something totally unique. HoI 4: Eh, not my series. Call me back when scripted events aren't so railroadey. EU4 Wealth of Nations: This just reminds me that I haven't played EU4 nearly as much as I should have  CK2 India: Quite interesting. I may or may not pick it up depending on the previews and the unique Indian mechanics (or lack thereof), but I am definitely going to appreciate having more context to what is happening in the Middle East. Having Persia just sit there on the end of the world (except for a mongol stack or two) always felt a little off. I do agree with DStecks that I'm hoping for some kind of diplomatic distance mechanic; genius-harvesting is a really gamey way to play that should have been made harder ages ago. Maybe your knowledge of distant lands and their rulers could be based on a combination of (state) Learning + Intrigue? You could make the minimum distance very generous so we don't go all Magna Mundi "knowing what the gently caress is going on around you is OP", just prevent intercontinental mail-order brides. NihilCredo fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jan 23, 2014 |
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Jan 23, 2014 22:32
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On it's own I'm not particularly interested in the Indian DLC (ugh, curry??) but as part of another DLC which expands further east to  I'd loving love it.
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Jan 23, 2014 22:39
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Don Gato posted:I don't think I've ever managed to make any form of India in any Paradox game, maybe since this is so much earlier I can forge a massive Indian empire and import that into EUIV when I finally get around to buying that. Then come Vicky III I can have bizzarro-world where the great powers are Asian. Forming Hindustan as Vijayanagar is pretty easy in EU4, just need to juggle the undying hate the Muslim sultanates have for you after you knock down the closest one (Bahamis) quickly. Diploannexing Ceylon is easy and that gives you more than enough money to move on. Just be ready for when the Europeans start getting "take Indian coastal province" missions!
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Jan 23, 2014 22:48
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After Rajahs I think I'm most excited for HoI IV, weirdly enough. I was never able to get into three (because it was an unwieldy mess) and the retro-interface/lack of mac support on the older games kept me away from them. Hopefully they learn from III's mistakes and don't add another 15,000 provinces or whatever.
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Jan 23, 2014 22:54
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I just hope that HoI4 focuses on what the fans want, more provinces, more tech tree theory techs, and a more intricate weather system.
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Jan 23, 2014 23:07
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I'm looking forward to seeing how Wealth of Nations works with Trading Companies, if they'll be like Colonial Nations or just an abstracted mechanic.
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Runemaster is going to use procedural generation to create characters, diplomacy, intrigues, etc.? Because that sounds a lot like a major component of Dwarf Fortress' roguelike mode. Paradox should hire Tarn Adams is what I'm saying.
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Jan 23, 2014 23:28
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Runemaster is going to be the only RPG where "Inbred" is trait.
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fermun posted:I just hope that HoI4 focuses on what the fans want, more provinces, more tech tree theory techs, and a more intricate weather system. All armored divisions needs to have several stats whose only purpose is to affect unit efficiency in different kinds of weather.
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Sky Shadowing posted:I'm looking forward to seeing how Wealth of Nations works with Trading Companies, if they'll be like Colonial Nations or just an abstracted mechanic. The game will be a little... weird if every province you grab outside your home continent gets handed over to a colonial/trade company "nation". It's a big change from the days of just painting everything your color. Probably a net positive in the end, but... hard to wrap my head around.
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Dibujante posted:Runemaster is going to use procedural generation to create characters, diplomacy, intrigues, etc.? Because that sounds a lot like a major component of Dwarf Fortress' roguelike mode. Is it the new studio in Umeå that's going to work on Runemaster? If so, it might just be quiet and isolated enough for Adams' social needs.
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Sky Shadowing posted:I'm looking forward to seeing how Wealth of Nations works with Trading Companies, if they'll be like Colonial Nations or just an abstracted mechanic. 
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I'm pretty excited for Hoi4. Despite being fundamentally broken and flawed, they did an amazing job of making Hoi3 playable by the last expansion and I feel like they've matured greatly as a developer since the initial release. Not really excited for the RPG, it's outside of their core competence and I'm a strategy guy not really an RPG guy. Feeling very wait and see for the EU4 and CK2 DLC. EU4 is my last favorite mapgame and I need to see what they plan to do and if it fixes what I don't like before I decide if I want to buy. I'll probably buy the CK2 DLC but I'ld rather have CK2 keep a more narrow focus and improve on depth instead of breadth. The ability to play theocracies and holy orders falls much higher on my priorities rather than dragging in a whole new area of the world where existing mechanics don't really fit. Really needs to be more consideration of range in mechanics so the Norse don't conquer Sri Lanka, there aren't crusades for Afghanistan, and the doge of Venice doesn't end up looking Indian. I think I'm just mainly disappointed its not Vicky 3 or a Vicky 2 expansion SickZip fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Jan 23, 2014 |
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fermun posted:I just hope that HoI4 focuses on what the fans want, more provinces, more tech tree theory techs, and a more intricate weather system. To be fair to Johan, he has said that the HOI3 weather system will never return.
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I hope whatever they do with trading companies, they remain flexible enough so that in my current Cree game, I can make a Cree trading company in Europe now that I've annexed most of the Netherlands. Someone's gotta manage all my new cloth  .
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I should have listened to you wise goons. Spent $10 for EU Rome and installed Wiz's mod(which is what sold me on buying the game) but the game just crashes within seconds of starting a campaign. I don't remember who but someone asked me what "ratings" I was talking about. I meant the Metacritic scores of the games and EU Rome is only behind CK2, EU 3 and 4, and HoI 2. Plus 79 for EU Rome isn't too shabby. If it would work.
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V for Vegas posted:To be fair to Johan, he has said that the HOI3 weather system will never return. I guess Winter is not coming.
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India's not exactly my bag, but my wishlist for CK2 is basically all stuff that can be fixed in a patch (decadence, papal mechanics, factions, more events) so I'm not really worried. EU4 expansion and the Viking RPG look neat, and HOI4 could be good.DStecks posted:If I were you, I'd try to capitalize on the fact that Rajas is probably the first major Western game release to focus on India. I backed a Kickstarter RPG set in fantasy India but it's pretty low-budget and half the dev team is Indian. Fintilgin posted:The game will be a little... weird if every province you grab outside your home continent gets handed over to a colonial/trade company "nation". Honestly, I'd be fine if they just expanded the CoP mechanics for westernization and colonization in the Americas everywhere with some tweaks to fit the region (ie no liberty desire or migrations, rename the ideas, and so on).
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Mustang posted:I should have listened to you wise goons. Spent $10 for EU Rome and installed Wiz's mod(which is what sold me on buying the game) but the game just crashes within seconds of starting a campaign. This is Rome plus the expansion, right? It definitely won't work with the mod otherwise.
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Yeah it's Rome plus expansion. It actually installs EU Rome and EU Rome Vae Victis at the same time and I've been using the Vae Victis one to launch the game. It doesn't have the launcher CK2 and EU 4 have where you can pick mods and DLC.
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The steam version of Rome doesn't launch the launcher if I recall correctly, so you need to launch it from the game directory.
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Darkrenown posted:You'd think I'd get used to how mad some people get every time a DLC is announced, but nope, still surprised. You still haven't come to terms with how racist Paradox fans are? Wait till you release an African-based DLC.
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HOI was the IP that got me into Paradox's library of games, now expanded to eu3/4 and ck1/2 but I can not forget how much a let down HOI 3 was especially at launch. Let's hope they have learned from that because after the amazing games they have built recently it gives me hope to go back to my original time sink
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Necroneocon posted:You still haven't come to terms with how racist Paradox fans are? Wait till you release an African-based DLC. To be fair to paradox, 'gamers' and nerd culture in general is hilariously toxic for anyone who is not a straight, white-male. MLKQUOTEMACHINE fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jan 24, 2014 |
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I love how there's like no conception at all that there are people from India who might want to play as their ancestors and repel the Ghaznavids or whatever just like the stereotypical Paradox forumers play their ancestors in Saxe-Nowheresburg.
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nutranurse posted:To be fair to paradox, 'gamers' and nerd culture in general is hilariously toxic for anyone who is not a straight, white-male. This is in general, to be fair. It's just easier to cast a light on gamers and nerd culture because the Internet makes it easy.
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Necroneocon posted:You still haven't come to terms with how racist Paradox fans are? Wait till you release an African-based DLC. Why would they make an Africa DLC? The only thing the Africans have to do is sit around and wait for a white man with a machinegun to show up!
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That or sell slaves to them / arabs for said machine guns and to increase their local powerbase.
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Discussing it with a friend who I got into playing CK2 around the Old Gods, I realized the aspect of Rajas that has me most excited; since playing CK2, I've learned a lot about European history, just by seeing stuff in-game and being intrigued enough to learn more about it. Now I can have the same experience with a region I know even less about - CK2 will be the gateway drug into Indian History for me, and that is exciting!
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Kainser posted:The steam version of Rome doesn't launch the launcher if I recall correctly, so you need to launch it from the game directory. Thanks, got the right launcher and the mod selected now. Only now when I go to make a new campaign it says something like "Rome does not exist at this time" for every country on every start date. The map for every bookmark is greyed out.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Discussing it with a friend who I got into playing CK2 around the Old Gods, I realized the aspect of Rajas that has me most excited; since playing CK2, I've learned a lot about European history, just by seeing stuff in-game and being intrigued enough to learn more about it. As much as people complain about geographical inaccuracies in Paradox games, they've really taught me a lot of geography. All the time nowadays I come across references to small and obscure cities in Europe and find myself thinking "Hey, I know where that is! I fought a war over it once."
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Discussing it with a friend who I got into playing CK2 around the Old Gods, I realized the aspect of Rajas that has me most excited; since playing CK2, I've learned a lot about European history, just by seeing stuff in-game and being intrigued enough to learn more about it. This is another thing that's awesome as well. For me CK1 was how I even began to be interested in medieval history/history in general, and Paradox's games have been my favorite games not because they are the best games, but the best games for poking around history.
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