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I just started reading Godland and I love it so far, although Tom Scioli definitely gets equal-or-greater credit for that.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I just started reading Godland and I love it so far, although Tom Scioli definitely gets equal-or-greater credit for that. I haven't read the final issue but Godland develops severe plot creep and winds up flying off the rails in a "who cares" way. It's a good looking crash, though.
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Jan 24, 2014 06:23
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Zodiac and Vengeance were also pretty good, though the wasted potential is mostly that there's been no follow-up on Zodiac in the last three years.
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Jan 24, 2014 06:26
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fatherboxx posted:
I worry about too many cooks in the kitchen, I also don't know poo poo about Kirby's non Marvel creations, aside from The New Gods, and all I know about that is from the Superman cartoon.
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Jan 24, 2014 08:43
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Rhyno posted:I'm still bummed that he didn't get to do the final year of 3.0. Being a Wildstorm fan around 1998-2002 is the bummerest experiences I had as a comic fan, because it was seeing so much potential rise... and then die on the vine shortly after the sale to DC. It made me a lot more jaded about things like cancellations and mismanagement. A lot of it wasn't necessarily the fault of the people involved - it was a hard time for comics - but it was hard to see a company doing some groundbreaking stuff in the world of capes and then be reduced to The DC Try Out Book.
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Jan 24, 2014 14:36
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I've heard that Joe Casey developed a drug problem because he heard he'd be writing UXM at the same time Grant Morrison was writing NXM, and decided that would be the best way to compete with him. Which probably isn't true, but it'll probably show up in Comic Book Legends Revealed sooner or later.
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Jan 24, 2014 14:54
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Skwirl posted:I worry about too many cooks in the kitchen, I also don't know poo poo about Kirby's non Marvel creations, aside from The New Gods, and all I know about that is from the Superman cartoon. Man you need to read the Fourth World stuff. poo poo rules.
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Jan 24, 2014 16:10
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Literally The Worst posted:Man you need to read the Fourth World stuff. poo poo rules. Yeah I'm hesitant to call the Fourth World Kirby's best work only because I've been reading through the original Fantastic Four run and that poo poo's just insanely good, but it's almost certainly his magnum opus.
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Literally The Worst posted:Man you need to read the Fourth World stuff. poo poo rules. It is amazing     Here is some more classic Kirby 
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Being a Wildstorm fan around 1998-2002 is the bummerest experiences I had as a comic fan, because it was seeing so much potential rise... and then die on the vine shortly after the sale to DC. It made me a lot more jaded about things like cancellations and mismanagement. A lot of it wasn't necessarily the fault of the people involved - it was a hard time for comics - but it was hard to see a company doing some groundbreaking stuff in the world of capes and then be reduced to The DC Try Out Book.
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Jan 24, 2014 16:27
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Metal Loaf posted:I've heard that Joe Casey developed a drug problem because he heard he'd be writing UXM at the same time Grant Morrison was writing NXM, and decided that would be the best way to compete with him. He wrote Automatic Kafka around that time, so it clearly worked out well!
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Jan 24, 2014 17:07
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Halloween Jack posted:For me it was the Worldstorm event. Captain Atom: Armageddon is perhaps one of the most ill-conceived books I can recall. Captain Atom shows up in his hideous Kingdom Come outfit (because), loses control, and blows up the Wildstorm universe. Somehow they squeezed nine issues out of that premise.
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Jan 24, 2014 18:13
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Being a Wildstorm fan around 1998-2002 is the bummerest experiences I had as a comic fan, because it was seeing so much potential rise... and then die on the vine shortly after the sale to DC. It made me a lot more jaded about things like cancellations and mismanagement. A lot of it wasn't necessarily the fault of the people involved - it was a hard time for comics - but it was hard to see a company doing some groundbreaking stuff in the world of capes and then be reduced to The DC Try Out Book. Being an Authority fan is the worst feeling. I can confirm this. Also y'all fools talking about Jack Kirby and not mentioning The Demon. The introduction of Etrigan is a lot of fun.
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Jan 24, 2014 23:10
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Being a Wildstorm fan around 1998-2002 is the bummerest experiences I had as a comic fan, because it was seeing so much potential rise... and then die on the vine shortly after the sale to DC. It made me a lot more jaded about things like cancellations and mismanagement. A lot of it wasn't necessarily the fault of the people involved - it was a hard time for comics - but it was hard to see a company doing some groundbreaking stuff in the world of capes and then be reduced to The DC Try Out Book. There so much good stuff coming out of Wildstorm at the time. Wildcats 3.0 remains one of my favorite comics. I'm going to have to dig them out and reread.
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Swillkitsch posted:Also y'all fools talking about Jack Kirby and not mentioning The Demon. The introduction of Etrigan is a lot of fun. The Demon should rightfully be mentioned alongside his Fourth World work, but I understand why it's not. It's a lot harder to pin down. Incredibly dope comics, though.
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Jan 25, 2014 06:42
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fatherboxx posted:He wrote Automatic Kafka around that time, so it clearly worked out well! Definitely seemed to be competing with Morrison, though!
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Jan 25, 2014 13:47
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As far as I'm aware, Marvel was expecting the Morrison who wrote JLA to reinvigorate and redefine on NXM, while Claremont was doing the Full Claremonty on X-Treme, so they wanted Casey to do conventional "superhero" X-Men on UXM. I guess he didn't give them exactly what they wanted (and it's my understanding he was getting to be pretty unreliable) so they took him off the book and gave it to more traditional talent. Chuck Austen.
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Jan 25, 2014 14:27
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Who, to the surprise of probably everyone, put out some actually good work.
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Jan 25, 2014 15:12
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For 3-4 months. Then he went "Haha, psyche!" and gave us exploding communion wafers, echo-werewolves, and loving Azazel.
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Jan 25, 2014 16:38
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No, no. That was his 616 X-book, which was trash. His ULTIMATE X-Men run, on the other hand, was surprisingly competent for being an Austen book.
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Jan 25, 2014 16:58
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Joe Casey took over UncannyXM right when Morrison took over NewXM. Shortly before the 616 X-Men revamp, Msrk Millar launched UltimateXM and at one point had a two-part fill-in by Chuck Austen featuring Gambit that people seem to like. It was two whole issues. Then later Joe Casey and UncXM parted ways, which is what people were talking about. Chuck Austen, perhaps on the strength of his UltXM fill-in, got to replace Casey on UncXM.
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Jan 25, 2014 17:13
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There has been no point in time when Chuck Austen has been good. I mean given the frequency of books that comes out that there has to be over 1000 better X books than his.
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Jan 25, 2014 17:23
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Waterhaul posted:There has been no point in time when Chuck Austen has been good. Yeah, but have you heard about this new guy, J.D. Finn? This guys hot I tells ya, what a fresh new talent!
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:The Demon should rightfully be mentioned alongside his Fourth World work, but I understand why it's not. It's a lot harder to pin down. Incredibly dope comics, though. I'd also mention OMAC. He was like a futuristic Captain America. Only read the first three issues, but they're great fun.
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Mr. Maltose posted:No, no. That was his 616 X-book, which was trash. His ULTIMATE X-Men run, on the other hand, was surprisingly competent for being an Austen book. I don't remember him writing more than 2 issues of UXM, the Gambit 2 parter?
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Rhyno posted:I don't remember him writing more than 2 issues of UXM, the Gambit 2 parter? Yeah, that was the extent of his run.
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Jan 25, 2014 19:08
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How was Casey's X-Men run anyway?
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Even Casey's fans hate it. Interesting ideas, bad execution, art not really matching the material. The annual with Ashley Wood was decent, though.
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Jan 25, 2014 20:59
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I'm buying like 2-3 times more Image than DC these days, it's amazing.
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Jan 26, 2014 00:13
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However many image books I am buying, I am buying that many times more than DC books.
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Jan 26, 2014 00:17
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d00gZ posted:I'm buying like 2-3 times more Image than DC these days, it's amazing. Depending on how the next wave of Marvel Now books I may end up reading more Image than Marvel which is something I didn't think I'd ever say.
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I'm currently reading more Image books than Marvel and DC books combined.
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Jan 26, 2014 00:24
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I am buying ∞ more Image books than DC books. DC's just become a company I'm not interested in supporting at all.
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I'm thinking of cutting my list down to save money and I'm going to end up ditching everything that isn't Image, Hawkeye, or Thor.
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Literally The Worst posted:I'm thinking of cutting my list down to save money and I'm going to end up ditching everything that isn't Image, Hawkeye, or Thor. I'm really enjoying Hawkguy. It even got me to look up Young Avengers because Kate was with the group.
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My Marvel load has dropped significantly since taking a hard pass on the X-books (except for the still excellent X-Men Legacy). But I have been keeping tabs on Jason Latour as a writer of note since his admirable efforts on Winter Soldier and Silver Surfer, so I'm hoping his WatXM will be good. Between that, Si Spurrier on X-Force, and Mike Carey coming back with an upcoming OGN, it might be safe to read an X-Men title again.
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Every month I buy e: Actually, I probably spend more on videogames, the same on movies and a bit less on music, and get about equal enjoyment, so I'm not too concerned about how much I indulge in this hobby. Some all-encompassing Comixology Unlimited subscription thing would be nice though. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Jan 26, 2014 |
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My DC intake has declined due to cancellations. My Marvel intake is about to decline due to runs ending too (looking at you Daredevil). My image intake has increased though thanks to comixology.
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Madkal posted:(looking at you Daredevil) The new #1 is still Waid and ongoing isn't it?
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