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spasticColon posted:Is it worth getting a 2013 N7 or should I look elsewhere for a replacement? It looks like the lovely battery thing is random and you really wouldn't know until you've had it for a week or so. Its still pretty drat nice so, I'd say buy it, test it, and if the battery isn't lovely keep it. DemonMage posted:
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Keep WiFi on during sleep is Always. Brightness I tend to leave on Auto, I only turn that off if I'm reading before bed where I'll set it to minimum usually. Everything is set to sync, don't micromanage it. Also have a Twitter client polling every 15 minutes usually. Skype may or may not have been up most of that time too, it was about a month ago. I don't do anything to go out of my way to extend battery life (if anything its the opposite with twitter/skype), and I just charge my tablet every night or three depending on how much I'm using it.
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Alan_Shore posted:Is there a consensus here about the Galaxy 10.1 2014? I don't mind rooting to hopefully get rid of some of the lag (though there of course should be no lag on a device like that). Thinking it might be better than a laptop if I get a keyboard for it. I love my OG Nexus 7 but having a bigger screen would be great, and the screen is reportedly delicious.
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Vykk.Draygo posted:Ugh, if Google can't even get the 2017 model running well, then I'm switching to iPad. You should get an iPad anyways. Even decently running tablets like the 2013 N7 aren't as good as the iPads that came out at the end of last year.
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DemonMage posted:Keep WiFi on during sleep is Always. Brightness I tend to leave on Auto, I only turn that off if I'm reading before bed where I'll set it to minimum usually. Everything is set to sync, don't micromanage it. Also have a Twitter client polling every 15 minutes usually. Skype may or may not have been up most of that time too, it was about a month ago. I don't do anything to go out of my way to extend battery life (if anything its the opposite with twitter/skype), and I just charge my tablet every night or three depending on how much I'm using it. Everything about that I could do except Twitter... I have so many people on there, it'd kill the battery loading so much. I don't even know if it's an app because I've put it on safe mode and still had meh screen on time but good idling time. Are you on art?
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DemonMage posted:Nope, still using Dalvik for now. Hmm.. Location set to high accuracy? And the inactivity limit for the screen? I ask because I like to see if other configurations will work better for me.  Think I solved the weird thing with not having the tablet idle for long...now it's the weird screen on time.Edit: Also, I'm wondering if having Google Voice on to pick up the texts from my phone might be causing screen on time issues. No idea what fixed the idle time thing so maybe? ThermoPhysical fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Jan 25, 2014 |
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Yup, High Accuracy and Google Location Reporting is on. Screen sleep is 2 minutes. Have about 32 days of uptime as well, so I'm not restarting a ton in hopes that is somehow helping either. Bluetooth/Wifi/NFC/Beam are always on.
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DemonMage posted:Yup, High Accuracy and Google Location Reporting is on. Screen sleep is 2 minutes. Have about 32 days of uptime as well, so I'm not restarting a ton in hopes that is somehow helping either. Bluetooth/Wifi/NFC/Beam are always on. Starting to wonder if maybe Voice has something to do with it. I'll uninstall that and see. Most of what I do are just browse Awful, go through YouTube/Gmail and use Chrome. It shouldn't have such low screen time...I pretty much do that routine daily so I know I have a lot more than 4 hours...yet that's all I get.
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Alan_Shore posted:Is there a consensus here about the Galaxy 10.1 2014? I don't mind rooting to hopefully get rid of some of the lag (though there of course should be no lag on a device like that). Thinking it might be better than a laptop if I get a keyboard for it. I love my OG Nexus 7 but having a bigger screen would be great, and the screen is reportedly delicious. I have one, and I dig it immensely. The screen is indeed gorgeous. I swapped out the TouchWiz launcher in favor of Nova and it feels like an aosp tablet most of the time for me. I don't experience anything like lag that I have noticed.
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spasticColon posted:Is the 2013 N7 going to get a price drop anytime soon? I ask this because earlier I grabbed my 2012 N7 off my nightstand but I forgot it was plugged in and *SNAP*...I broke the connector inside the tablet so now the thing won't charge after plugging it back in. I've had it for over a year so it no longer has a warranty so it's now a $200 paperweight once the battery dies unless there's a way it can be charged wirelessly. You could always try buying a dock and charging it through the pogo connectors.
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I went to remove the AC Adapter for my N7 from the surge protector from behind my bed and that's when I discovered the USB port on the AC Adapter was really loose and that's when it dawned on me I might have broken that instead even though the USB port was loose on the tablet too. I plugged my N7 into my PC with just the USB charge cable and it still charges. I feel like an idiot now for not testing that in the first place. 
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The screen on my (out-of-warranty) Nexus 7 2012 broke today. Displays okay, but the glass is broken and it's unresponsive to touch. Is it worth trying to get it repaired or would I be better off just springing for a new one?
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docbeard posted:The screen on my (out-of-warranty) Nexus 7 2012 broke today. Displays okay, but the glass is broken and it's unresponsive to touch. Is it worth trying to get it repaired or would I be better off just springing for a new one? The 2013 is a pretty big upgrade, so it's a good excuse to buy one if nothing else.
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docbeard posted:The screen on my (out-of-warranty) Nexus 7 2012 broke today. Displays okay, but the glass is broken and it's unresponsive to touch. Is it worth trying to get it repaired or would I be better off just springing for a new one? I'd just get the 2013 one. It may not at first feel like an upgrade but after daily use it is a lot smoother and faster.
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Yeah, I've definitely had my eye on the 2013 model for a while now. Just not really in a position where I can afford one right away, but it's looking like the repair options I'm seeing aren't so much less expensive that they'd be more viable (and replacing the screen myself feels like a bit more than I want to contend with).
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I think I can survive with my lame-duck (discharges in a day whether or not I use it) 2012 until the 2014 models come out. Looked at e-readers, but just doesn't seem worth it for the money. I have never had any trouble reading from a screen... used to read entire novels Gutenberg'd works of English literature on a GBA SP with a flash cart, or on a hacked PSP.
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Personally I'm waiting to hear about the Samsung TabPro 8.4 next month before upgrading this year.
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Tunga posted:Factory resetting it is probably the only fix. That did it. My N10 works like new again.
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Daimo posted:Personally I'm waiting to hear about the Samsung TabPro 8.4 next month before upgrading this year. I'll give you a peek into the future. It'll be double the price of a Nexus, have a worse screen, come a month before the next new benchmark chip becomes standard even on Chinese tablets and still run slower than the 2013 with Touchwiz clogging everything up. Prove me wrong Samsung.
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Tunga posted:Factory resetting it is probably the only fix. This is worth repeating. My 2012 N7 was becoming so slow and choppy it was unusable. Did a back up for stuff I needed to save and did the factory reset. So, so much better! Redoing it to my preferences was a little annoying, but I no longer want to throw it out a window, so it's clearly a net gain.
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Alarbus posted:This is worth repeating.
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Tunga posted:In most cases it's because these devices were released without TRIM support and once TRIM was added it didn't always kick in properly because things were already "clogged up" (in non-technical terms). Factory resetting it once solves this issue and after that it should keep itself running properly. I've been running trim daily manually, but it never made that big of an impact.
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Alarbus posted:I've been running trim daily manually, but it never made that big of an impact.
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I received a N7 2013 a few days ago after an long internal struggle over whether I would use a tablet. Early results are that it is freaking awesome! Spent a couple of hours rooting it (leaving a stock rom) only to discover that the stock kernel no longer supports CIFS *sigh* An OTG cable and 32GB flash ram is sort of OK for expansion. I did get to change the net.hostname so rooting it hasn't been a complete waste of time. I've set up Subsonic to stream my music and video library over the net and after a bit of fiddling it works really well - even on 1080p HD
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Please stop computer-janitoring your tablet. Well, I thought it was needed, but apparently it wasn't even a good placebo. Now I'll just use it until it grinds to a halt, and reset it. That should take about a year, which is fair.
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Privilege Check posted:photographed docs What is this.
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Cojawfee posted:What is this. Google translate allows you use a photograph of text as input for translation. Hit the camera icon in the app and it converts to text then translates.
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Alarbus posted:Well, I thought it was needed, but apparently it wasn't even a good placebo. Now I'll just use it until it grinds to a halt, and reset it. That should take about a year, which is fair. If you're running 4.3+, then you won't need to do it. TRIM isn't like Win95 defrag. It's built into the OS and happens automatically.
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Welp ... I'm apparently stupid. Location-aware settings got turned on again at some point. Battery "only" drained 25% in 17 hours since last charged after turning it off. Still not amazing, but significantly more useful.
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The more I hear about battery drain on tablets, the more impressed I am with my Note 10.1 2014. Mine was off the charger from 4pm Friday 'til I fired it up at 8am today, down only 12% and had all notifications that I got over the weekend.
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I just don't get why my 2012 Nexus 7 doesn't sleep well ... I can't speak for other tablets. With other gadgets, my 2011 MacBook Pro loses like 10% if I leave it untouched over a weekend. My old DS seemed to lose barely any power, but my DSi loses a bit when sleeping. My PSP, PSP Go, and Vita, all seem to sleep amazingly well. The Go and Vita especially seem to lose barely anything significant over weeks. My Note 2 sleeps vastly better than my tablet, considering I leave the antenna, wi-fi, bluetooth, location services, and other background poo poo on. It gets around two days with minimal screen use. teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jan 28, 2014 |
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I've noticed that historically my 2012 N7 lasted ages if I wasn't actively using it. Recently this week it started going down hill though. It might last a day or two of little to no use before it completely dies. The weirdest thing is that yesterday it took hours to recharge. I plugged it in when it was at ~16% battery at around 10am, and it wasn't fully charged until 4 or 5pm. It's never taken anywhere remotely that long before, and the charger/outlet was the same I've always used.
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I'm starting to think that the problem with my Nexus 7 2013 is the apps I run. Previously, I used Google Goggles, Google Offers, and Google Voice on the tablet. I also had Google Currents enabled and allowed to sync. I started to notice that Currents, Offers, and Voice were always running no matter what. They'd sit there for days and just run. Since I get tons of texts daily, Voice constantly ran and fetched texts. Offers and Currents I don't even use on my tablet (Currents, I've actually never opened). After removing Offers, Voice, Goggles (since I barely use the camera anyway), and disabling and removing sync from Currents, I got this:    It's not "my tablet's been going for 3 days and I've put 12 hours on the screen", but it's certainly better than the 4 to barely 5 hours I usually get. All I've done on it is watch movies on Plex, watch clips on YouTube, play Puzzle and Dragons, use Chrome, use Hangouts, go on the Awful app, browse Newsstand, browse Twitter/Tumblr/Google+, and play some music from Google Play Music All Access. The idle time is pretty high too. I've noticed, if I leave the tablet alone at 100%, it'll last up to 4 days without me really using it. However, this was before I removed Voice, Currents, Offers, and Goggles. I also turned off sync for sound search since I just use SoundHound anyway. It never made a difference in battery life if I had it on or not, but it was annoying since it would always have a problem with syncing so I just turned it off. As for location, I have it on high accuracy, with Reporting and History on as well. I don't have Bluetooth turned on as I have no Bluetooth devices. NFC remains on just because it's never caused a problem with being on before. Wi-Fi is set to stay on automatically. I've turned it off before and noticed some good idle time...but with 4 days of idle time with Wi-Fi on constantly, I'm ok with leaving it on. Also, I got sick of everything syncing when I turned the screen on. I've learned to Force Close Puzzle and Dragons when I'm done with it since it will continue to run in the background. It's the ONLY app that does this and has been doing so for a few versions now. I'd remove it, but I'm addicted to it soo...yeah. If you play PAD, you need to remember that simply exiting the app doesn't work as it will not exit. It'll keep going and kill your battery. If you at least swipe it away in Recent Apps after closing via the app itself, it should be fine. If you don't do this after you're done playing, it'll keep the device awake and eventually consume more power than the screen. I should probably tell GungHo about this because it's been around for a long while.
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teethgrinder posted:I just don't get why my 2012 Nexus 7 doesn't sleep well ... I can't speak for other tablets. With other gadgets, my 2011 MacBook Pro loses like 10% if I leave it untouched over a weekend. My old DS seemed to lose barely any power, but my DSi loses a bit when sleeping. My PSP, PSP Go, and Vita, all seem to sleep amazingly well. The Go and Vita especially seem to lose barely anything significant over weeks. Try turning your tablet off and see how long the battery lasts. That's a fairer comparison. If you think it's running down too fast, use BetterBatteryStats to see what is causing it. A (Wi-Fi-only) N7 should get about a week of idle time with no use.
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Elsewhere in that post I've mentioned specifically that all that stuff, wifi, location, sync, etc is off. It would be nice to have at least the option of a "thorough" suspend without any running processes. I've used BetterBatteryStats and it's been inconclusive.
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Tunga posted:Tablets don't sleep in the same way as any of those gadgets. Those things are effectively completely shut down. Your tablet is syncing background data, potentially running background processes, tracking and reporting location, checking your email, checking for and downloading app updates, and so on. BBS is almost useless if you're not rooted on 4.4 and above. It can't tell you what app is doing what, only what wakelocks are going on and not which ones are caused by which specific app.
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teethgrinder posted:Elsewhere in that post I've mentioned specifically that all that stuff, wifi, location, sync, etc is off. It would be nice to have at least the option of a "thorough" suspend without any running processes. Have you tried factory resetting it? I realise that shouldn't be the answer but it might help. (That statement is not really in the post I quoted, by the way, but the bit about the Note was probably supposed to imply it. Fair enough,)
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