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Mu Zeta posted:Arnold Vinick is one of my favorite characters and Aaron Sorkin had nothing to do with him. Alan Alda also won an Emmy for it. I'd go even further and say that Sorkin wouldn't have been able to write Vinick as great as he turned out to be. Sorkin's "good" republicans, whether it's Ainsley Hayes or Will McAvoy, nearly always suck.
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It's also a less bold concept in a post-Obama world.
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It freaks me out how much Santos is Obama and Vinick is McCain.
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TheBigBad posted:It's also a less bold concept in a post-Obama world. Well, my first time watching The West Wing was in a post-Obama world, so I can't speak to that. It wasn't anything to do with that, I just found him kind of tepid compared to Vinick, and didn't watch far enough to see that it was really just the starting point for his story arc. thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Jan 27, 2014 |
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FISHMANPET posted:It freaks me out how much Santos is Obama and Vinick is McCain. It should because they were! It's pure coincidence both ended up running in 08 after West Wing ended.
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Jan 27, 2014 22:58
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Even a lot of the campaign stuff, like McCain being dragged to the right by the party, and feeling like a piece of poo poo for it (but now McCain has dragged himself to the right so there's no accounting for taste). I mean, what are the odds that the writers just pluck two guys from politics and have them run for president, and then 4 years later they actually run for president?
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Jan 27, 2014 23:00
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Well, Josh Lyman was originally based on Rahm Emmanuel, so basing Barak Obama on Santos just completes the circle 
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FISHMANPET posted:It freaks me out how much Santos is Obama and Vinick is McCain. there was an interview with one of the show runners long before that election campaign where he explicitly referenced Obama and McCain as the inspiration behind Santos and Vinnic.
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FISHMANPET posted:It freaks me out how much Santos is Obama and Vinick is McCain. Except Vinick is cool and McCain is an idiot hawk not an elder statesman.
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Mu Zeta posted:Arnold Vinick is one of my favorite characters and Aaron Sorkin had nothing to do with him. Alan Alda also won an Emmy for it. In all honesty Vinick winning the election would have been the better option if there was ever any discussion about a Season 8. The writers and producers have both confirmed and denied that the original plan was to have Vinick win, but that was scrapped when John Spencer died. If there was ever a plan to keep going, having a totally new administration would have been a good reboot, and you could still bring the original cast in for guest shots.
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I had an idea last night when talking to some friends about The West Wing that it would be pretty neat if they made a new series following Josh as a mayor of a major city. Since he`s pretty much based off Rahm Emanuel it would be an idea to come back to his character after he`s been Chief of Staff to President Santos for a term or two and instead of remaining in that sort of position or taking a role as a Democratic Party "elder" he takes public office. Then again, I`m not sure the show would work quite as well these days, but I figured you folks in this thread would appreciate the thought!
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James R posted:I had an idea last night when talking to some friends about The West Wing that it would be pretty neat if they made a new series following Josh as a mayor of a major city. Since he`s pretty much based off Rahm Emanuel it would be an idea to come back to his character after he`s been Chief of Staff to President Santos for a term or two and instead of remaining in that sort of position or taking a role as a Democratic Party "elder" he takes public office. Pitch it to NBC, they are desperate...
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Bradley Whitford's occupied on ABC. I like to think of him as an older pre Josh Lyman anyway. After his job in the white house, he goes back to being a lawyer, marries a couple women, has some kids, ends up with a trophy wife, etc etc.
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Send in Sam..
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FISHMANPET posted:Bradley Whitford's occupied on ABC. I had no idea he was in anything on television post-Studio-60. Oops!
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James R posted:I had no idea he was in anything on television post-Studio-60. Oops! You're telling me you haven't seen The Good Guys? 
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James R posted:Then again, I`m not sure the show would work quite as well these days, but I figured you folks in this thread would appreciate the thought! Wasn't the whole point of the show to live in a fantasy land where Bush didn't exist?
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JohnSherman posted:You're telling me you haven't seen The Good Guys? If you haven't seen this you're missing out.
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Waltzing Along posted:Wasn't the whole point of the show to live in a fantasy land where Bush didn't exist? More like a world where a Democratic President doesn't get his dick sucked on the reg in the oval office.
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Victor Vermis posted:More like a world where a Democratic President doesn't get his dick sucked on the reg in the oval office. I don't know- Abby seems like fun.
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I dunno. He was a stickler for the dignity of the office, but I can kinda see him and Abby going at it in front of the Remington. Edit: See? It's not just me.
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Abby'd be down for it, but you know he'd sperg out about the history of the desk or whatever for the whole time.
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Okay, and a world where a Democratic President and his wife have a loving relationship that isn't likely held together by sheer political necessity. The good seasons of West Wing are obviously alt-history 1990s -for lack of a time machine if nothing else.
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FrozenVent posted:Abby'd be down for it, but you know he'd sperg out about the history of the desk or whatever for the whole time. It's funny how at the end of third season Sam gets inappropriate more than once in the office and then later in the series Jed gets super randy when Abby is away too long.
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TheBigBad posted:It's funny how at the end of third season Sam gets inappropriate more than once in the office and then later in the series Jed gets super randy when Abby is away too long. I remember that scene. "It's been three and a half weeks...do these curtains close?" Also, seeing Charlie squirm as he writes down Abbey's message was funny as hell. Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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Alter Ego posted:I remember that scene. "It's been three and a half weeks...do these curtains close?" Wasn't that after he was shot etc and was in recovery?
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Holy poo poo, Leo is in the first episode of Law & Order, from 1990. He looks so young.
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FISHMANPET posted:Holy poo poo, Leo is in the first episode of Law & Order, from 1990. He looks so young. First scene in "Wargames" too, talking about the sweet pot he smoked before he fails to launch the missile. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1I7rGsr2KE FetusSlapper fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Feb 3, 2014 |
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Hey gang, Me and my buddies have been talking about map projections and, well, you all know where I'm going with this. How standalone is "somebody going to emergency"? Can I show it to them without them knowing Sam from Toby and have them fall in love with the show, or does the episode really not make a lot of sense without 1.5 seasons worth of character development?
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shelper posted:Hey gang, It's really, really stand-alone if I recall correctly, there's virtually no ongoing plot running through it.
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You could also just show them the map projection scene and then the pilot.
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Joementum posted:You could also just show them the map projection scene and then the pilot. Yeah, if that doesn't make them fall in love with the show, you probably shouldn't hang out with them anymore.
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Aaron Sorkin presents "The Foodroom"
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HORATIO HORNBLOWER posted:Aaron Sorkin presents "The Foodroom" THAT's why he left The Good Wife!
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An article with a bunch of interesting interview snippets.quote:WHITFORD: The hours on that show were so bad. I mean, just horrible. I remember going to Tommy and saying to him, "The invisible carnage of the unf—ed wives and the children not being read to is just wafting out." quote:SCHIFF: I pitched an idea to both to them: "You know what would be amazing? If we lost [the election]. Just imagine. No one would be expecting it. We would lose and we're gone. That's the end of it." Tommy said that was actually an amazing idea but the network and studio would never go for it because they have to make their money back. quote:WHITFORD: Josh was the perverse one on set. He'd set everybody's iPod to Mandarin, or you'd be reading a book on set and the last four pages are torn out. And he had no sense of proportion. One day I am doing a scene and there's a big crowd of people and Jimmy Smits comes over and he hugs me and goes, "I love you too, man. And those flowers were amazing and the letter means so much to me." Josh had snuck into my trailer, gotten my stationary and written a vaguely homoerotic thing to Jimmy about working together.
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That third snippet.  All of a sudden, putting Josh Malina in the "In Memoriam" video at the SAG Awards doesn't seem all that out of proportion.
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JohnSherman posted:That third snippet. As far as some of us are concerned, he still belongs there.
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I was ready to go to bed but started reading this article, then I had to go watch the two cathedrals & 20 hours clips.
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