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Joe-Bob
May 12, 2005

GO BIG RED
College Slice

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

I'm glad we had a reminder that 2Pac and NWA existed, in case anyone missed the 90's or something.



Pete Seeger died today.

94? Not too shabby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5JLCAIJLJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd_5-2kCzfs

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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!

Jakcson posted:



Obama to raise minimum wage for government contract workers


Hopefully this will increase the quality of life for many Americans. It ought to make things better for the folks that only work 32 or 25 hours a week.

I'm glad I voted for Obama. :obama:

If Obama wasn't just accelerating the existing trend of contracting as many government services as possible, this would ring a little less hollow. Stimulus funds were just shoveled out to contractors - a handful of companies and their owners got the largest benefit and far many more workers were paid $10/hr temporarily to actually do the job. He should have taken a page out of FDR's book and had the federal government take on some of these projects directly -hundreds of thousands of people could be in secure, decently compensated jobs, what could be better for the economy?

Political Whores
Feb 13, 2012

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

If Obama wasn't just accelerating the existing trend of contracting as many government services as possible, this would ring a little less hollow. Stimulus funds were just shoveled out to contractors - a handful of companies and their owners got the largest benefit and far many more workers were paid $10/hr temporarily to actually do the job. He should have taken a page out of FDR's book and had the federal government take on some of these projects directly -hundreds of thousands of people could be in secure, decently compensated jobs, what could be better for the economy?



I'm pretty sure that would just be considered equivalent to Communism in the US now. And thus, literally equivalent to murdering innocent christian babies.

Not that it excuses Obama or anything, but I do find it sad that the idea of providing a living wage to people has become toxic in the US. IT's amazing the degree to which US capital managed to get people to internalize that message.

Cossacks helping out with Olympic security



Political Whores fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Jan 28, 2014

ChubbyPitbull
Dec 10, 2005
Awww....look how OHMYGODMYHAND!

"Armed members of the so-called self-defense groups walk as they take control back from cartel members of the community La Huerta, in state of Michoacan, Mexico, on January 17, 2014. HECTOR GUERRERO/AFP/GETTY IMAGES"

AP Source, article title typo included: "Mexico legalizes vigilante groups in Michoacan, welcomes them in fight against drug cartesls" http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mexicos-vigilantes-legalized-and-put-under-military-umbrella/

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0HEXdKXSaY

Trench_Rat
Sep 19, 2006
Doing my duty for king and coutry since 86

Little Blackfly posted:

I'm pretty sure that would just be considered equivalent to Communism in the US now. And thus, literally equivalent to murdering innocent christian babies.

Not that it excuses Obama or anything, but I do find it sad that the idea of providing a living wage to people has become toxic in the US. IT's amazing the degree to which US capital managed to get people to internalize that message.

Cossacks helping out with Olympic security







quote:

"President Vladimir Putin was inducted into what is known as the Cossack host in 2005 and given the rank of Cossack colonel, previously held by imperial czars.


Kopijeger
Feb 14, 2010

Waffen-SS Cossacks in Warszawa during the 1944 uprising.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C13JFv4JfH8

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Octatonic posted:

More Hip hop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1Co1mfz23U
Kenny Arkana "La Rage" (Rage) 2006. Written in support of the rioting before Sarkozy's election the next year. English subtitles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2lp9OmPgTs

Casey "Créature Raté" (Failed Creature) 2010. Anti-colonialist, anti-racist, from a Martiniquan rapper. English subtitles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE1NrTExx9U

Odezenne "Saxophone" 2011. Portrait of poverty contrasted against middle-class consumer culture. Nice word play.

:getin: French rap kicks rear end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6VbtWw6Slg

An anti-American imperialist coalition gathers in Mexico on an underground cave, built by Bin Laden, where Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, FARC and the Cuban army led by Fidel himself join arms to destroy America, where the Black Panthers are already fighting against American soldiers.

It ends with valete himself filling George Bush with lead in the White House :allears:

"This is for the victims of the wars you fabricated
for the mouths that died due to the bread that you denied
for the terror you sowed, spread and perpetuated
for the men and women that your bombs mutilated
for the sweat of the workers that you enslaved
for the soul of this planet that you damaged."

gabi
Sep 10, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VucczIg98Gw

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

My dad would play this on guitar and sing this one when I was a kid and I turned out to be quite the liberal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlSpc87Jfr0

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Alterian posted:

My dad would play this on guitar and sing this one when I was a kid and I turned out to be quite the liberal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlSpc87Jfr0

I love me some Pete Seeger and loathe suburban sprawl, but I really don't like that song. It always seemed like "Sheeple :smug: : The Song"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WphNO24h9nA

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Alterian posted:

My dad would play this on guitar and sing this one when I was a kid and I turned out to be quite the liberal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlSpc87Jfr0

The composer of that one wrote many other badass songs too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvC4xq32AX8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfcdUtUYJpA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzK5OH06ShQ

Warning: May lead to liberal thoughts.

Weldon Pemberton
May 19, 2012

R. Mute posted:

I don't like the usual rap with all the hos and the "bling bling", I prefer intellectual and political rap *tips over*

You made a valiant effort, but people unironically posted carbon copies of this anyway :smith:

Here's some scans from an amusing Unionist book of cartoons and commentary on the Irish Home Rule bills of the late 19th century.



It focuses on lampooning Gladstone for his support of HR and alliance with the Nationalist leader Charles Stewart Parnell. Don't think it was as close as this image seems to imply...



This cartoon sees Gladstone trying to break up John Bull and a personification of Ireland. Many English feared that Home Rule (which was basically self-government while still having Ireland and its proposed assembly as part of Britain and subservient to the Imperial Parliament) would bring on full separation and independence for Ireland, contrary to Gladstone's claims (he believed he was strengthening the empire in the long term). Parnell basically just wanted whatever he could secure for Ireland at the time. He was very vague on his ultimate end, unlike Fenians and Sinn Fein.



Irish-Americans were generally more radical than Irish in Ireland and England. They were stronger advocates of physical resistance and in fact some Irish uprisings (such as the doomed Fenian one in 1867) were started by visiting Americans. But their support- particularly their financial support- was also crucial for constitutional Nationalist efforts. Here were see Parnell and Gladstone begging for money from an Irish-American ethnic stereotype. When Parnell had previously toured the U.S. in 1880 he had raised about $70,000 dollars for the land reform effort.



A lot of these cartoons address concern with a history of violent agitation in the Nationalist movement. As I indicated before, Parnell was active in the land reform struggle of the 1870s (it was actually what brought him to prominence). The Land League he led was made up of a lot of Fenians and ex-Fenians (a "physical force" movement for total independence), and although the League officially did not support violence, it benefited from the violence of its followers. For example, the boycott of paying rent to certain harsh landlords (starting with one who was literally called Boycott, this is where the term comes from) was enforced by the threat of violence. Aside from passing the eventual land act of 1881 that was being agitated for, Gladstone had literally nothing to do with it, actually passing a bunch of authoritarian coercion bills to suppress unrest. He's been included here as some sort of retroactive Fenian because of his support of HR from 1886, of course.



The association with the Fenians dogged Parnell until just before his death. There was a "Parnellism and Crime" commission that vindicated him by exposing some letters of his that explicitly cheered on violence as forgeries. Unfortunately Parnell was disgraced again just after that when it was discovered he had been in a longstanding affair with the wife of a follower. The Irish Parliamentary Party split after this revelation and weakened the pro-Home Rule contingent in parliament, and Parnell died before the second bill could be rejected. Here is Gladstone as a Moonlighter (violent Irishman who enforced boycotts at night).



Some people at the time rejected HR on the basis that "it doesn't matter if much of Ireland wants it, because most of the UK as a whole doesn't want it" (which seems absurd to us now). By this they generally meant "England doesn't want it", as Scotland and Wales actually nominally supported the idea (and no, I have no idea why the author thought "shut up" was a phrase sufficiently unique to Romeo and Juliet to make it a quote).

Weldon Pemberton fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Jan 28, 2014

emfive
Aug 6, 2011

Hey emfive, this is Alec. I am glad you like the mummy eating the bowl of shitty pasta with a can of 'parm.' I made that image for you way back when. I’m glad you enjoy it.
One of my favorite parks as a kid in New Jersey:



I think it's in a museum now. It was built in the US. It's called the "Fenian Ram".

Alterian
Jan 28, 2003

Stultus Maximus posted:

I love me some Pete Seeger and loathe suburban sprawl, but I really don't like that song. It always seemed like "Sheeple :smug: : The Song"

I give it a smugness pass since it was written half a century ago and is still relevant to current times.


Counterfeit money a UNC Greensboro student tried to pass off as real and signed "Moe Money"

anonumos
Jul 14, 2005

Fuck it.
I humbly submit Andre Nickatina.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jwG-SjE7oo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8X0Q6yEV4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-tajlfkH08

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
Isn't there a post youtubes thread already?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loBBf85gYcs

Political Whores
Feb 13, 2012



This is Tom Perkin, founder and former head of a major Silicon Valley VC firm. He fears the coming "Progressive Kristallnacht"

quote:

I would call attention to the parallels of Nazi Germany to its war on its "one percent," namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American one percent, namely the "rich."

Regarding your editorial "Censors on Campus" (Jan. 18): Writing from the epicenter of progressive thought, San Francisco, I would call attention to the parallels of fascist Nazi Germany to its war on its "one percent," namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American one percent, namely the "rich."

From the Occupy movement to the demonization of the rich embedded in virtually every word of our local newspaper, the San Francisco Chronicle, I perceive a rising tide of hatred of the successful one percent. There is outraged public reaction to the Google buses carrying technology workers from the city to the peninsula high-tech companies which employ them. We have outrage over the rising real-estate prices which these "techno geeks" can pay. We have, for example, libelous and cruel attacks in the Chronicle on our number-one celebrity, the author Danielle Steel, alleging that she is a "snob" despite the millions she has spent on our city's homeless and mentally ill over the past decades.

This is a very dangerous drift in our American thinking. Kristallnacht was unthinkable in 1930; is its descendant "progressive" radicalism unthinkable now?

One of his most recent investments is in OUYA, Inc. Yes, that OUYA. Where, oh where, would we be without the job creators?


I should add that he has since "apologized" for his gaffe, or rather talked about how he spoke to the ADL and now realizes why some people might have misinterpreted his comments and taken offense, though in fairness he did manage to write and send that letter to the editor "on impulse". He would also like to remind you how very, very rich he is, and how he provides so many jobs in the Bay Area.

Political Whores fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Jan 28, 2014

StickySweater
Feb 7, 2008
I don't think the chances of such an act are zero, but when I think of "Progressive Kristallnacht," I think more along the lines of locking up "progressives" or anti-government/authority people, which would be more probable.

Anyway, if people in mass ever did become violent, damage to the 1% would probably be incidental. Poor people know what rich people look like and where they live about as much as the rich know about the poor. People perceived as being rich would be the likely targets.

To some degree I sympathize with worries the gov would try to "take our guns," but really, if they saw gun ownership as a threat, they would have taken them long ago. I suspect the powers that be let guns alone because they know we will use them against each other primarily if things ever got bad.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-KAvPbO8JY

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

quote:

A medic of the anti-government protest camp (L) poses for a portrait with his security guard at the barricades near the site of clashes with riot police in Kiev, January 28, 2014. Ukrainian Prime Minister Mykola Azarov resigned while deputies loyal to President Viktor Yanukovich, acting to calm violent street protests, back-tracked and overturned anti-protest laws they rammed through parliament 12 days ago.


Interesting ideological graffiti battle going on on the wall behind them.

ryonguy
Jun 27, 2013

StickySweater posted:

I don't think the chances of such an act are zero, but when I think of "Progressive Kristallnacht," I think more along the lines of locking up "progressives" or anti-government/authority people, which would be more probable.

Anyway, if people in mass ever did become violent, damage to the 1% would probably be incidental. Poor people know what rich people look like and where they live about as much as the rich know about the poor. People perceived as being rich would be the likely targets.

To some degree I sympathize with worries the gov would try to "take our guns," but really, if they saw gun ownership as a threat, they would have taken them long ago. I suspect the powers that be let guns alone because they know we will use them against each other primarily if things ever got bad.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-KAvPbO8JY



I think they would be pretty easy to find. Unfortunately, the gun owners in this country tend to be right wing as gently caress, and the left wing has deluded itself into thinking drum circles are worth something. So yeah, the fascist rich in this country don't give a poo poo about gun control because the people that own guns support them wholeheartedly.

If it's any consolation, even in my conservative as gently caress hometown in Ohio I've heard people who are otherwise pretty much hardcore Republicans express pretty strong negative views about the ultrarich without the usual caveats of "they earned it" and other such bullshit.

ryonguy fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jan 29, 2014

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.


Hundertwasser

Noctis Horrendae
Nov 1, 2013

This is all I could think of when I saw this thread.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS


ufarn
May 30, 2009

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe
RIP Pete Seeger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9eDU045u_E

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.



HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug


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Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth

HorseRenoir posted:



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:allears: Diamond Joe

ufarn
May 30, 2009


Wonder what they found upon a closer inspection of POTUS.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

HorseRenoir posted:



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:allears:

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Daily Caller :allears:

SulfurMonoxideCute
Feb 9, 2008

I was under direct orders not to die
🐵❌💀


These people should see what's happening in Alaska right now.



I live on the Canadian prairie and I was wearing my sandals. Outside. In January. Thanks, drunk jetstream!

cyberbully
Feb 10, 2003

Looks like Rome would've been hosed if people had invented Molotov cocktails sooner.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

rjryan3
Oct 10, 2012

"If global warming, why snow?" :smug:

Do they even consider that there is something weird going on with the weather when there's loving snow in Florida?

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BIG HORNY COW
Apr 11, 2003

Picnic Princess posted:

These people should see what's happening in Alaska right now.



I live on the Canadian prairie and I was wearing my sandals. Outside. In January. Thanks, drunk jetstream!

This is what Alaska looks like right now. At the end of January. This picture was a few days ago so now there's even LESS snow.



It's been in the high 40s to mid 50s for weeks. Plants and trees are starting to bud, people are working outside shirtless. It's showing no signs of stopping at least for the next week.

Nope, no signs of climate change here.

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Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
It's been a beautiful winter in California so far and has pretty much been dry with highs in the 60's or 70's. This state is mega screwed though as it's completely bone dry. I'm not sure why the water restrictions haven't started but it'll be super bad once the shortages begin.


Bip Roberts fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Jan 29, 2014

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