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Waterhaul posted:A Misspelling of X-Men Origins: Wolverine. (Wolverine Origins sucked and I am pretending it didn't exist, much like the movies following it are.)
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 16:27 |
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TetsuoTW posted:Wait, are they making a new Wolverine movie? Hey it's a good comedy if you just watch the workprint. And yes they are making a new Wolverine film
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 16:31 |
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The Wolverine was pretty dope and I think Halle Berry almost kind of pulls off those stupid mil-spec panel uniforms.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 16:35 |
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Waterhaul posted:Hey it's a good comedy if you just watch the workprint. What the hell are they going to do in the third one anyway? The Madripoor stuff?
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 16:59 |
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Gaz-L posted:What the hell are they going to do in the third one anyway? The Madripoor stuff? I dunno but I won't complain if we get Patch on the big screen! Patch!!! Rumours are that Days of Future Past changes thing around enough timeline wise that both Wolverine 2 and Age of Apocalypse/X-Men:Apocalypse can spin out of it.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 17:15 |
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Regardless of how DOFP does, anyone thinking that Fox would sell the rights back to Marvel is probably going to be sorely disappointed. Fox would rather make a dozen underperforming X-Men films before they let Disney profit off of a single one.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 18:19 |
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HorseRenoir posted:Regardless of how DOFP does, anyone thinking that Fox would sell the rights back to Marvel is probably going to be sorely disappointed. Fox would rather make a dozen underperforming X-Men films before they let Disney profit off of a single one. They're not quite at a dozen, but they're getting there.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 18:38 |
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HorseRenoir posted:Regardless of how DOFP does, anyone thinking that Fox would sell the rights back to Marvel is probably going to be sorely disappointed. Fox would rather make a dozen underperforming X-Men films before they let Disney profit off of a single one. At this point, the X-films and probably Spider-Man films as well are always going to be profitable, stable franchises,even if a film like Wolverine: Origins and Spider-Man 3 is panned critically and seen as a poo poo film.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 18:48 |
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HorseRenoir posted:Regardless of how DOFP does, anyone thinking that Fox would sell the rights back to Marvel is probably going to be sorely disappointed. Fox would rather make a dozen underperforming X-Men films before they let Disney profit off of a single one. Oh, no question. The franchise would have to poo poo the bed with the lights on before there's any chance they'll relinquish the rights. It would take a merger or a major change up of studio execs, or some bizarre rights swap for them to give them up willingly.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 18:54 |
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StumblyWumbly posted:They're not quite at a dozen, but they're getting there. Well they've only had two which isn't bad really and Days of Future Past is their response to "people don't want X-Men without all the old people in it".
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 19:13 |
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My main issue with this film is I've come to a realisation that while a big event summer cinema blowout works for The Avengers or Batman, it really doesn't for the X-Men. There's too many characters, too much going on, it's always been more like some grand, melodramatic soap opera compared to other properties (the rest have their moments but come on, the X stuff is *mental*). Sure, it's a big old cliché to say it but more than any other superhero property, it would be far better served as a TV series. These super compressed two-hour snippets every couple of years just can't hope to satisfy when there's so many characters, themes and stories being thrown haphazardly at the wall. It needs time and space to breathe.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 19:24 |
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You know what else might have been better as a standard seven-season serialised TV show? Harry Potter. But that's neither here nor there, obviously.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 19:31 |
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Sentinel Red posted:My main issue with this film is I've come to a realisation that while a big event summer cinema blowout works for The Avengers or Batman, it really doesn't for the X-Men. There's too many characters, too much going on, it's always been more like some grand, melodramatic soap opera compared to other properties (the rest have their moments but come on, the X stuff is *mental*). Sure, it's a big old cliché to say it but more than any other superhero property, it would be far better served as a TV series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfmqSOr2-NY Show definitely doesn't skimp on the crazy, and it's dope.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 19:44 |
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Sentinel Red posted:My main issue with this film is I've come to a realisation that while a big event summer cinema blowout works for The Avengers or Batman, it really doesn't for the X-Men. There's too many characters, too much going on, it's always been more like some grand, melodramatic soap opera compared to other properties To be fair, X-Men could easily be as flashy and big as those other films. The problem is in getting writers and directors that actually get ambitious with the storytelling. One of the biggest problems with the Fox X-Men films is that Singer set a bad precedent with how the material gets used from both a writing and aesthetic standpoint, and only First Class felt like it was trying to break out of the Singer mold. Sadly, with Singer's return it's very likely that any steps First Class took to break free of his influence on the series are going to be thrown out.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 19:51 |
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DFu4ever posted:Sadly, with Singer's return it's very likely that any steps First Class took to break free of his influence on the series are going to be thrown out. When you consider that Singer produced and co-wrote First Class and is bringing in much of the cast from that movie, this statement doesn't make a lot of sense.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 19:57 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:When you consider that Singer produced and co-wrote First Class and is bringing in much of the cast from that movie, this statement doesn't make a lot of sense. Singer only has a story credit for First Class which is rather nebulous in terms of his actual involvement on that end of things. It could mean as little as suggesting that Magneto goes to South America at one point. rantmo fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Jan 28, 2014 |
# ? Jan 28, 2014 20:11 |
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So DOFP's "past" segment takes place in 1973 right? Early 70's sometime? So when you consider Wolverine Origins taking place in 1979 the age difference with Stryker really doesn't make sense.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 20:15 |
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Kingtheninja posted:So DOFP's "past" segment takes place in 1973 right? Early 70's sometime? So when you consider Wolverine Origins taking place in 1979 the age difference with Stryker really doesn't make sense. They haven't said when the past stuff takes place I think? The "in universe" stuff does mention the Kennedy assassination stuff they were going to do when Vaughan was still on-board.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 20:22 |
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Why don't they just split the teams/characters up and have a couple of movies a year? A Louisiana romance Romeo-Juliet type tale with Gambit, Rogue, whatever as a smaller budget movie. A giant extravaganza with the other guys for the summer. A comedy adventure with Dr. Nemesis. Etc.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 20:22 |
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Waterhaul posted:Empire /= Entertainment Weekly but I know what you mean. Oops, I just saw an E and figured it was EW, because they normally do crap like this. Empire I expect better from.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 20:24 |
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rantmo posted:It strikes me that lesson Fox, and frankly DC, have taken from the MCU is more heroes = more money. They see the end result of The Avengers and ignore the five years of work leading up to it, they forget that The Avengers was the payoff to a lot of work and not a quick cash in. First Class and Man Of Steel: On The Knight Shift are jumping to the endpoint without any build up. It's understandable that they're blinded by a $1.5 billion box office take, but given how much Fox is pouring into DoFP, it's going to be really easy for a modest response to become a proportional bomb. Yeah, exactly. There's zero build-up to this. I would feel a lot better about this movie if they had actually made movies about both different teams of X-Men, and the centerpiece character, Wolverine. Without those it's just a quick cash-in.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 20:24 |
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Oh, a new movie set in the present timeline where the X1-3 cast plus some new ones have and adventure. Hell, they could have done the story from when Rachael Grey and Nimrod come into the present. That ties it into the future quite nicely and introduces time travel. But nope, lets throw everything we can into the mix and hope we get something good rather than barf.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 20:32 |
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I get the feeling that the decision process at Fox involves a lot of cocaine. Like, a lot by Hollywood standards.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 20:36 |
Not that I really care about the X-men movie continuity or Cyclops as a character all that much, but it'd be cool if they used this time travel fuckery to undo his ridiculous death from the third movie. That poo poo was like if Avengers 2 opened with Cap falling down a flight of stairs and dying. And then no one talked about Cap at all for the rest of the film.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 20:36 |
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StumblyWumbly posted:I get the feeling that the decision process at Fox involves a lot of cocaine. You're talking end of Scarface, Tony Montana face down in a giant pile amount, right? I don't think you're too far off.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 21:17 |
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boom boom boom posted:Yeah, exactly. There's zero build-up to this. I would feel a lot better about this movie if they had actually made movies about both different teams of X-Men, and the centerpiece character, Wolverine. Without those it's just a quick cash-in. They have made three movies with the original team and the last one was so bad that no one wanted to deal with them. They have made one movie with the past team, and have made a movie with Wolverine that does sort of connect the two.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 21:22 |
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You know bringing up Origins, I always wondered, why did they decide to make Deadpool the way he was in that movie?
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 21:24 |
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achillesforever6 posted:You know bringing up Origins, I always wondered, why did they decide to make Deadpool the way he was in that movie? How did they make most of the decisions in that movie? Cocaine and other hard drugs.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 21:25 |
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And hiring people who don't give a poo poo about the comics or characters
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 21:29 |
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Because Deadpool is the worst so who cares?
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 21:29 |
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"Deadpools called the Merc with a Mouth...gently caress those comic nerds, sew his mouth shut! And bring me a expensive hooker and blow...and a panda cub for me to shoot!" - Fox exec while working on Wolverine Origins.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 21:31 |
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achillesforever6 posted:You know bringing up Origins, I always wondered, why did they decide to make Deadpool the way he was in that movie? His name is Deadpool and his powers come from pooling together dead mutants. Everything checks out here.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 21:35 |
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twistedmentat posted:"Deadpools called the Merc with a Mouth...gently caress those comic nerds, sew his mouth shut! And bring me a expensive hooker and blow...and a panda cub for me to shoot!" - Fox exec while working on Wolverine Origins. The sewing the mouth shut thing made sense. How else are you going to shut up someone who wise-cracks all the time?
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 22:19 |
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God, remember those 20 minutes when people thought Ryan Reynolds was going to save comic book movies as we knew it?
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 22:31 |
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Here's a better look at the Ninja Turtles designs
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 22:34 |
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bobkatt013 posted:They have made three movies with the original team and the last one was so bad that no one wanted to deal with them. They have made one movie with the past team, and have made a movie with Wolverine that does sort of connect the two. I think that was the joke he was making... I think it's been built up plenty, if they want to do this big storyline they sort of need to now because, and I love him to death, but Ian McKellen can only do a role like this for so long. Dude feels OLD in the Hobbit. He isn't about to keel over, but 3-4 years can make a big difference at that age. Him and Pat Stewart are both ~74, still looking good for their age but they won't be available forever. I would sort of expect this to be their last appearance in these roles, unless they pull a Stan Lee and cameo in X-Men 8 at age 95. (I hope they do) ^^ Interesting look for the Turtles, I'm open to it. They have sort of a weird homeless samurai look to them, but I like Raph's Dread Pirate Roberts headscarf. Electromax fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jan 28, 2014 |
# ? Jan 28, 2014 22:37 |
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404GoonNotFound posted:God, remember those 20 minutes when people thought Ryan Reynolds was going to save comic book movies as we knew it? Somehow it ended up being Chris Evans. Dacap posted:Here's a better look at the Ninja Turtles designs Those look pretty loving good.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 22:40 |
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Yeah, I actually really dig the more individual approach to the designs
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 22:42 |
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I overreacted to the Halloween costume but... Mikey's supposed to look like an idiot and Raph being a thug/bruiser is expected. Reserving judgement until we see the other two. Especially Leo, who is usually supposed to be the baseline "average" one the other designs elaborate on.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 22:47 |
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Donatello looks like he's hauling some gear with him too, nightvision goggles?
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 22:49 |