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Bruceski posted:Okay this is odd. You're the second guy to report being deleveled on enemy fights but I haven't been. Anderson starts at 63 after I tanked everything in the previous map. They started deleveled, but after I finished a fight everything jumped a bunch. Post-patch strangeness, I suppose. (Mags/Hood went to 208)
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BDawg posted:http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2714 There are rumors of a frame rate exploit, of players using the same account on multiple devices at once, and a couple of other client-side hacks people may be using. Devs have said "if there's cheating, we'll ban regardless of how much they've spent." We'll see.
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Ouch, the game is super difficult now. These 230s have been giving me such a headache and I thought I had it figured out just earlier today. I hope they roll back some of these changes for sure.
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I wish I could join the selling thor/wolv bandwagon but they're my main dudes with OBW currently. I sold IM35 and im thinking of selling storm as well since I never use her anymore.
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iRend posted:I think you should keep Thor and sell Wolvie - Thor is still pretty great, his Yellow ability is amazing when running with Daken or Hulk. I sold my Thor because he was no longer specced correctly. My wolverine was in fact already built correctly for the nerf, so he stays. vvv The last two times I've used Thor were for the Thornament and the God games. Other than that, he's been entirely out of my rotation. A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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I'm actually tempted to sell my Thor as well, since I'll mostly be using him for his Yellow's Green Tile generation now, but the thought of having to gather all the covers is somewhat daunting.
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Jan 29, 2014 04:15
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Anyone know what the bonus is for selling maxxed-out 1-stars? IM35 has 10 levels or so to go.
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Jan 29, 2014 04:21
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How is the thread title not "Marvel Puzzle Quest: Now FUNbalanced!" yet? FUNbalanced is by far the best legacy this game could hope to leave behind.
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Jan 29, 2014 04:28
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BTW, Moonstone combos pretty well with Patch. Her red is a good alternative to Best There Is (depending on whether there's lots of red tiles) and her purple can be used to match away purple strike tiles you make for the enemy. Her black's still stupid though.
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delfin posted:There are rumors of a frame rate exploit, of players using the same account on multiple devices at once, and a couple of other client-side hacks people may be using. Well a bunch of stuff appears to be client side. I wouldn't be surprised at all of cheat engine worked on the steam version to let you freeze your guys HP. A client side game is okay on iOS / Android its a ton harder to cheat on them, its still silly, but also makes sense because out of range and getting disconnected = loss is just bullshit if you go under a tunnel or something. Trusting a client on a PC game is loving retarded. The best way is to support resume and only accept input when they are connected. But they clearly aren't doing that. pixaal fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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A.o.D. posted:I sold my Thor because he was no longer specced correctly. My wolverine was in fact already built correctly for the nerf, so he stays.
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BDawg posted:http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2714 Dunno, but the guys in 1-3 in my bracket have multiple (as in five or more) lvl 120 characters so I can indeed see how they manage to win. Edit: Haha, for the first time ever my dudes managed to beat someone who attacked me.
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BGrifter posted:Yes nerfing two of the easiest to get powerful characters sure is good for you guy-who-has-nothing-but-a-post-nerf-CStorm. Now you can enjoy getting clowned by Ares and Punisher instead while scooping up gobs of far less useful Wolverine/Thor covers. Yeah, I'm honestly getting off on the amount of salt pouring over this. It's delicious. BDawg posted:http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2714 We're really good at Bejeweled. That's it. That's the entire secret. Powers that deal with board control are competitive with powers that deal a bunch of damage, and flat out better if you get creative. That, and Black Widow Classic 5 turn stun is the great equalizer. (If she gets Funbalanced, I'll join Y'all in your tears.)
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So is the OP completely obsolete now? Cause I still haven't even maxed Iron Man 35 yet but I still have to decide what crap to keep.
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Veryslightlymad posted:Yeah, I'm honestly getting off on the amount of salt pouring over this. It's delicious. I could almost believe that's how it's happening but the problem is no amount of creative board control explains how they're winning matches so fast. Low level heroes just don't do a ton of damage on matches. In order to get top ten in those lightning rounds you need to be winning fast.
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Veryslightlymad posted:Yeah, I'm honestly getting off on the amount of salt pouring over this. It's delicious. To be honest, I'm not sure if it was brilliant or dumb as gently caress to roll out a new and incredibly-restrictive HP-buying model over 4 patches 3 months into the game's lifespan. You get so, so much anger from the players who were used to very little spending and being able to play all the content, but you managed to get all these people involved in the game, enough to get angry about it. And, probably, a lot of them will keep playing. Meanwhile, if I'd started playing today and seen all the paygates and missions I simply could not play, I wouldn't have bothered with the game for more than a few minutes. But goddamn. The Ragnarok nerf was meh, because he's a two-skill hero anyway, but Thor and Wolverine had actual decisions to be made by their players, and for me, took almost a month of play to max out, and now the most popular builds are definitely subpar. And aside from my Spiderman, are the only two characters I have that are over level 60. And they're the newbie heroes with a bunch of free covers in the prologue, so I have to imagine the majority of the players who haven't bought in for maxed Magnetos and Ragnaroks have pretty similar rosters to mine. I can't imagine them picking a better cross-section of "things that might piss off a lot of people."
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Yeah, disregarding Thor (67) and Wolverine (53), the only other heroes I have at a level higher than 30 are OBW and Storm Classic, and that's not because of a lack of ISO but because I simply don't have the covers to level anyone else beyond 30. Leaves me wondering what the hell to do now other than not bother, honestly. 
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So assuming I want to somewhat stick with this game, what are the preferred builds for Thor and Wolverine now? 3/5/5 and 5/5/3? My current Thor is 4/3/3 so I can maybe salvage him and go 4/4/5 and my Wolverine is 5/5/3 so I can actually finish him off without having to start over. Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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Jan 29, 2014 06:27
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"You can shear a sheep many times but you can only skin them once." Puzzle & Dragons has perfected the art of shearing sheep. MPQ just butchered 'em all.
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Their pricing model is so ridiculous. 100HP for 3AP to all colors in one fight, or 100HP for one spin of the daily heroic token.
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I've been trying to get a red IM35 cover for a while now. He's level 35 now, but I'm still only at 3/4/4 for him. I've been spending a bunch of my iso-8 on 3AP boosts, and now that they're charging HP for refills, that...hurts. I hardly ever have HP. I'm into the third mission on Oscorp. Does it become more plentiful?
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Kameh posted:I've been trying to get a red IM35 cover for a while now. He's level 35 now, but I'm still only at 3/4/4 for him. I've been spending a bunch of my iso-8 on 3AP boosts, and now that they're charging HP for refills, that...hurts. I hardly ever have HP. I'm into the third mission on Oscorp. Does it become more plentiful? hahahaha... no you're hosed unless you put in dollars. Unless you are a mega, you can expect to very rarely use 3 all boosts because they will now be super rare random drops.
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Now that I can see the top rosters, I'm jumping on the "something is fishy" bandwagon. There is a top 5 guy in my overall bracket whose top guy is level 32. There is no way he should be capable of beating some of the stuff he would need to be farming
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I regularly place top 10. My best guy is Iron Man 30 at max level and I don't even use him anymore. My go-to team is Ares, Classic Storm, and classic Hawkeye of all people. The highest of them is level 42. The lowest is level 30. EDIT What I'm saying is, they don't cheat, they just have way too much goddamn free time on their hands. EDIT2 And if you're talking about the PVE event, Patch and Widow Original synergize so well together they can easily punch a hundred levels above their weight class. Veryslightlymad fucked around with this message at 11:24 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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Veryslightlymad posted:I regularly place top 10. My best guy is Iron Man 30 at max level and I don't even use him anymore. I'm talking about PvE exclusively. There are 100 levels above a level 30 still is over 100 levels shy of some of the guys you're fighting. Without Spierman for stunlocking, I don't see how you can possibly cope with 240 teams, especially some like triple magia thug - as one tommy gun from any of 3 guys wipes your team. Any Ares 240, should also wipe you before you can kill him.
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Karnegal posted:I'm talking about PvE exclusively. There are 100 levels above a level 30 still is over 100 levels shy of some of the guys you're fighting. Without Spierman for stunlocking, I don't see how you can possibly cope with 240 teams, especially some like triple magia thug - as one tommy gun from any of 3 guys wipes your team. Any Ares 240, should also wipe you before you can kill him. Yeah that's the part that I'm not getting. No amount of Bejeweled skill makes up for a bad board, especially against Magia dudes who just generate the colors they need regardless of OBW stealing gems or whatever board is generated. I still don't see how they win quickly enough in Lightning Rounds to take top ten either. edit: I also never see these people to attack, I don't see how you can get 700+ points in a PVP event with level 30 teams and not get crabbed to oblivion. rabidsquid fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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Karnegal posted:I'm talking about PvE exclusively. There are 100 levels above a level 30 still is over 100 levels shy of some of the guys you're fighting. Without Spierman for stunlocking, I don't see how you can possibly cope with 240 teams, especially some like triple magia thug - as one tommy gun from any of 3 guys wipes your team. Any Ares 240, should also wipe you before you can kill him. I have yet to see any enemy in PVE that is at level 240 and I am sitting at #17 in my bracket for Thick as Thieves with less than 3 weeks played. Losing PVE matches definitely works for dropping the difficulty. Getting your team wiped works faster than just retreating and as has been posted before, there are set matches that let you use preset heroes so you don't burn through your spare characters as fast. It is a lot harder now that Patch is fixed and the +3 all boost costs hero points so I'm not sure how it will go now. I have noticed that I have had other people lose to my team a few times now in the Punisher event. It is probably due to lack of boosts and it may lessen crabbing as an issue so I'm not too unhappy if this is how it plays out.
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Welp this patch just killed off my desire to play PVE. Don't have enough blue to stunlock or anti-grav countdown tiles? Have fun getting one-shotted unless you pay silly amounts of currency for boosts LOL!
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rabidsquid posted:edit: I also never see these people to attack, I don't see how you can get 700+ points in a PVP event with level 30 teams and not get crabbed to oblivion. Most likely they have a low MMR in PVP. You (and anyone that could easily beat them) wouldn't see them since your MMR score is higher then theirs.
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Karnegal posted:Now that I can see the top rosters, I'm jumping on the "something is fishy" bandwagon. There is a top 5 guy in my overall bracket whose top guy is level 32. There is no way he should be capable of beating some of the stuff he would need to be farming The top guy in my bracket essentially has 90% of all the covers all maxed out so no surprises there.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:The top guy in my bracket essentially has 90% of all the covers all maxed out so no surprises there. Yeah, that's totally reasonable. It's the ones where they have nothing over 40 because even killing your guys only drops levels so much. I have 33 men in my roster and I've eradicated over 50% of it, and I still have people in the 100's-200's on the impossible missions. I feel like they have to be cheating. I'd want to see a video of someone clearing 240 guys regularly with a low power non-spiderman team. EDIT: This is what I'm talking about, how is this guy above me?  Please tell me how this guy beats a 3 hero ares team that is over 200? EDIT 2: I do want to note that the high end guys are still dooable, quite challenging but I can win probably 90%+ barring bad boards. BUT this is 100% contingent on a 5 blue spiderman. Once he get's nerfed, I'll probably quit because I can't imagine how I'd play the super tough missions without the stun. MAYBE I could get by on 3, but I doubt it with the boost change. Karnegal fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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Karnegal posted:Yeah, that's totally reasonable. It's the ones where they have nothing over 40 because even killing your guys only drops levels so much. I have 33 men in my roster and I've eradicated over 50% of it, and I still have people in the 100's-200's on the impossible missions. I feel like they have to be cheating. I'd want to see a video of someone clearing 240 guys regularly with a low power non-spiderman team. looks like he uses Juggernaut and Iron man to tank and has Venom Devour enemies?
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Karnegal posted:Yeah, that's totally reasonable. It's the ones where they have nothing over 40 because even killing your guys only drops levels so much. I have 33 men in my roster and I've eradicated over 50% of it, and I still have people in the 100's-200's on the impossible missions. I feel like they have to be cheating. I'd want to see a video of someone clearing 240 guys regularly with a low power non-spiderman team. He doesn't face Ares at over 200. Highest I have seen Ares in this PVE event is 196 and with losses I have always been able to bring it down to at least around level 110. With a few exceptions, I have only really faced sub level 100s with most encounters around the level 60 mark. With luck, boosts and his BWO stealing and healing, it's not that bad. I'm pretty sure this will not happen as much now that boosts are not purely ISO as I can't see many people paying 100 hero points to beat PVE.
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One positive thing I have to give the devs credit for is the removal of attempts from pvp. You get one shot now, and if you fail they get points. Should lessen crabbing now that your team no longer has to endurance match three whole teams in order to protect you. The AI made me 46 points while I was beating up three other guys.
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I've squeezed the patchwork tokens out of the progression for the pve event, maybe now I can get my hands on a wolverine so I can participate in half these god drat fights! Bag man, bag man, and bag man. 
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Heatwizard posted:I've squeezed the patchwork tokens out of the progression for the pve event, maybe now I can get my hands on a wolverine so I can participate in half these god drat fights! Feel my pain. At least in your defence they might Funbalance him and make him better.
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Is it worth selling my lvl50 4-4-3 Thor for 11,569 ISO-8 and 300 Hero Points? I don't have a decent Wolverine setup yet and my next best option is a lvl30 1-5-2 Captain America. But still, 5 figure ISO and 300 HP is very tempting indeed.
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Zero Star posted:Is it worth selling my lvl50 4-4-3 Thor for 11,569 ISO-8 and 300 Hero Points? I don't have a decent Wolverine setup yet and my next best option is a lvl30 1-5-2 Captain America. But still, 5 figure ISO and 300 HP is very tempting indeed. You'd be fine with a 4/5/4 Thor I think. Thor's yellow is really great for green generation, and his green is a decent nuke.
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Dizz posted:Feel my pain. Yeah, I'm racing right over to clear a slot for him. (that is a lie he is 375 purplebux now)
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