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Roasted Donut posted:That would also be trading up to take a right tackle, so nnnnnope Last year, I was sure the Steelers would take Jarvis Jones or Cordarelle Patterson. This year, it will either be Mike Evans or Louis Nix
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The Steelers don't trade in the first round, they just let dumber teams in front of them make bad picks.
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Grozz Nuy posted:The Steelers don't trade in the first round, they just let dumber teams in front of them make bad picks. For some reason I remember them taking Limas Sweed in the first round but no they were not that stupid, they just took him in the second.
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The last major trade they made was moving up to get Santonio Holmes which considering the guy won them a Super Bowl was a pretty good trade.
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Why didn't the Steelers resign him during his final year with them? He had a career season that year as well.
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John Brown posted:Why didn't the Steelers resign him during his final year with them? He had a career season that year as well.  , basically.
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That's underselling it a bit. He kept posting on social media about smoking weed and then he had an incident in a nightclub and then that stupid poo poo with an airline hassling him over headphones. The Steelers basically traded him for pennies on the dollar to set an example to Roethlisberger.
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bhsman posted:
Ok um what is this exactly
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John Brown posted:Why didn't the Steelers resign him during his final year with them? He had a career season that year as well. A lot of people say because of his weed habits and such and that may have played into it, but Holmes was a streaky receiver who was looking for a huge contract so they just dumped him.
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swickles posted:A lot of people say because of his weed habits and such and that may have played into it, but Holmes was a streaky receiver who was looking for a huge contract so they just dumped him. Yeah the thing with Holmes is and was at the time he showed up big but only at times, he would have a 170 yard day one week and then show no effort the next. Couple that with what I assume was a lovely attitude in the locker room, search for big money, drug use and other scalliwag behaviour and they probably thought, why bother negotiating with this rear end in a top hat for a hundred million over 5 years or whatever he'll demand and move on.
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BlindSite posted:Yeah the thing with Holmes I've been so confused since after that Limas Sweed post I thought we were talking about him all along, I was wondering if I remembered everything about his career wrong. Sounds like he's flushed out of the CFL at this point too.
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Grozz Nuy posted:The Steelers don't trade in the first round, they just let dumber teams in front of them make bad picks. 2003 NFL Draft: 15. San Diego Chargers - TRADE with Philadelphia 16. Pittsburgh Steelers - Troy Polamalu, Safety, USC 30. San Diego Chargers - Sammy Davis, Safety, Texas A&M 31. Oakland Raiders - Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, California 
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Intruder posted:Ok um what is this exactly I just typed colon-weed-colon, thinking it would be a cannabis leaf. The smiley, IIRC, came from some discussion about having a ball of weed the size of the sun pushed into the sun.
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The weed leaf smiley is 420 in colons, not just the word weed. 
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Just a 2nd rounder for the Falcons to move from 2nd to 6th for Clowney, eh? gotta think it'll cost more than that.
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FizFashizzle posted:Just a 2nd rounder for the Falcons to move from 2nd to 6th for Clowney, eh? Probably not. A 2nd to move 4 spots seems reasonable, especially since St. Louis doesn't need him and I doubt there are other teams in the Top 10 willing to trade up for him because they have so many needs. I think it would be silly for the Falcons to do that, but it wouldn't be a huge overpay like the Julio Jones trade.
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FizFashizzle posted:Just a 2nd rounder for the Falcons to move from 2nd to 6th for Clowney, eh? A second would be a top 40 pick. I bet it will be a 2nd, a 6th, and a pick next year. GMs loving love next year picks.
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I had a dream that the Texans drafted Clowney therefor I believe it will happen
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RisqueBarber posted:You guys are getting Johnny and it's gonna be awesome. Yes, he's going to fail a drug test or something and the Texans are going to take him in the 2nd 
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Archie Manning's recommendation gets him knocked down to the Titans, and I'll dance around in excitement when it happens (though it'll end horribly).
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My Barber is from Johnny's home town and he was telling me that the Manziel family is basically the mob.
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RisqueBarber posted:My Barber is from Johnny's home town and he was telling me that the Manziel family is basically the mob. Wouldn't doubt it. I'm really excited to see what Manziel can do at the next level. I know everything is telling me that he'll bust horribly and be murdered like Pat White. I don't want it to happen because he's so loving fun to watch but if I was a GM I wouldn't risk a pick on him. I'd probably get fired when he turns into Fran Tarkenton. Hindsight is going to be a bitch when dealing with Manziel.
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RisqueBarber posted:My Barber is from Johnny's home town and he was telling me that the Manziel family is basically the mob. He is right http://deadspin.com/the-long-con-how-the-manziels-conquered-america-1040593220
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Goetta posted:He is right http://deadspin.com/the-long-con-how-the-manziels-conquered-america-1040593220 His football career is just a money laundering scheme for the family's cockfighting and cocaine operations. 
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Goetta posted:He is right http://deadspin.com/the-long-con-how-the-manziels-conquered-america-1040593220 In regards to how Johnny's great grandfather built his fortune from the oil business. quote:Starting out with the deacons, he ran the negroes down in his flivver until all 40 would permit him to drill in the church's backyard.
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Doltos posted:Wouldn't doubt it. It's a good thing the Browns are apparently all-in on him because everyone in that organization is basically a lame duck anyway.
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Are there any other Arab American QBs besides Jeff George and Johnny Manziel? I'm half-jokingly waiting for scouts to start stereotyping Arab QBs. Edit: Doug Flutie and while not a QB, the venerable Rich Kotite are also Arab American.
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Grozz Nuy posted:It's a good thing the Browns are apparently all-in on him because everyone in that organization is basically a lame duck anyway. The only way I think this will end is with Haslam giving the Browns to Manziel.
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Grozz Nuy posted:Here's a Rotoworld article on with a bunch of stats on the second-tier WRs. Again this is a super deep draft and no one should be knocked in that article. Matthews looked bad at the senior bowl and he has the highest drop rate but all five of those guys are immensely talented at what they do. Screen passes are hardly a knock either since it takes a lot of athleticism to make something out of a bubble screen. Those only look easy because NFL WRs are huge and fast.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Last years draft was deep at wide receiver as well It was incredibly deep but for some reason the real top prospects dropped hard behind guys like Tavon Austin. This year doesn't feature an absolute stud like AJ or Megatron to set the bar, but Watkins is no slouch. The combine should shake up a lot of guys but I can see last year's number of WRs drafted eclipsed by this year's.
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Doltos posted:It was incredibly deep but for some reason the real top prospects dropped hard behind guys like Tavon Austin. This year doesn't feature an absolute stud like AJ or Megatron to set the bar, but Watkins is no slouch. The combine should shake up a lot of guys but I can see last year's number of WRs drafted eclipsed by this year's. Wasn't Keenan Allen a first round prospect before the knee injury?
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Last years draft was deep at wide receiver as well And the Chiefs took: 0 That better change this year.
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Aniki posted:Are there any other Arab American QBs besides Jeff George and Johnny Manziel? I'm half-jokingly waiting for scouts to start stereotyping Arab QBs. Did not know that about any of those guys. Do any of them identify as Arab-American? Flutie's great-grandfather immigrated from Lebanon, Wikipedia tells me, but is that a close enough tie for him to see himself as Arab-American?
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