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muike
Mar 16, 2011

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I think the thing about NAMM is that everyone on the floor is incredibly sleep deprived

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Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

muike posted:

I think the thing about NAMM is that everyone on the floor is incredibly sleep deprived

I can confirm the shiiiiit out of this, everyone's hungover and tired as hell all the time.

Otis Reddit
Nov 14, 2006
For most of us guys, NAMM is like. "Intern bait" .

Otis Reddit fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Jan 28, 2014

Stravinsky
May 31, 2011

I always figured walking around the show floor at NAMM would sound similar to attending an AIDS Wolf show.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

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I hear if you find a certain booth hidden in a back room, you can see the actual mighty ducks in their alien duck form while brandishing the golden mask.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

baka kaba posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjx_GjyXCs4

Got a pitchshifter in that rack? Something to think about I guess

So this is the only cool thing EVH has done (well this and Mean Streets)

I'm kind of stunned he doesn't try to transpose all of his parts a half step up or something but nope he steers into the skid

Ericadia
Oct 31, 2007

Not A Unicorn

Declan MacManus posted:

So this is the only cool thing EVH has done (well this and Mean Streets)

I'm kind of stunned he doesn't try to transpose all of his parts a half step up or something but nope he steers into the skid

Yeah this sounds insanely bad. The comments are fun on that video too: people blaming synth sampler rates even though the guitar is the only thing out of tune

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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So far I've been using Ernie Ball Super Slinky strings (9's), but I'm noticing that they don't last me too long and I've been reading a lot of crap about them, so I kinda wanted to switch up.

I read a lot of good things here about D'addario flatwounds, but holy crap they cost 3 times what a set of EB's (they also don't seem to come in 9's?). Are they THAT much better? I'm also seeing half-round, nickel, chrome, steel and I'm kinda lost. Is there a recommended reading regarding string construction/materials/wounds?

I'm also open to "just get these" suggestions. :v:

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down

My experience with strings is that if your guitar is well set-up, lubricated at contact points, nut is carved for the gauges used, and there aren't any actual mechanical problems (like burrs at the bridge saddles, mainly an issue with cheaper hardware), string breakage is due to a really heavy handed technique or just letting them go forever - long past the point where the string will actually intonate worth a poo poo, talking a year or two. Wipe them down to make sure your skin acids aren't doing an unwanted number on 'em after you're done playing, and a set of strings can stay fresh quite a long time if everything else is properly in place.

I did have issues when I was using a top 8 for an open major tuning, but .08 is awfully thin. Bends would kill it pretty fast. Anything 9+, look for other reasons your strings are breaking before you look at the strings themselves.

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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No, they're not actually breaking; I only snapped a couple of high e's when I had just gotten the guitar and wasn't used to changing/tuning strings, I've never actually broken a string while playing.

What I meant with not lasting is that they feel really bad to play after about a month; they start getting dark, feeling "rough" and sound a bit dull (this bit may be placebo effect for all I know).

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Edmond Dantes posted:

So far I've been using Ernie Ball Super Slinky strings (9's), but I'm noticing that they don't last me too long and I've been reading a lot of crap about them, so I kinda wanted to switch up.

I read a lot of good things here about D'addario flatwounds, but holy crap they cost 3 times what a set of EB's (they also don't seem to come in 9's?). Are they THAT much better? I'm also seeing half-round, nickel, chrome, steel and I'm kinda lost. Is there a recommended reading regarding string construction/materials/wounds?

I'm also open to "just get these" suggestions. :v:

Buy the cheapest, regular rear end d'adarrio 9-42 strings. Don't go crazy with flatwound/halfwound/plated/purenickel/whatever just yet. There's plenty of other brands out there too so just try out the regular sets from them to see what you like and then once you know what's good and affordable you can then start the string sperging.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Edmond Dantes posted:

No, they're not actually breaking; I only snapped a couple of high e's when I had just gotten the guitar and wasn't used to changing/tuning strings, I've never actually broken a string while playing.

What I meant with not lasting is that they feel really bad to play after about a month; they start getting dark, feeling "rough" and sound a bit dull (this bit may be placebo effect for all I know).

Wash your hands before playing, wipe your strings down after playing and once a week wipe them down with a cleaner (a mineral oil soaked cloth will do, I use fast fret because I'm a schmuck). They'll still get old and lovely but will last a bit longer.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
Where you store your guitar (in a case, in a bedroom, in a basement) and humidity where you live have an effect on string life as well, but in my experience Ernie Ball strings do wear out really fast.

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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Spanish Manlove posted:

Buy the cheapest, regular rear end d'adarrio 9-42 strings. Don't go crazy with flatwound/halfwound/plated/purenickel/whatever just yet. There's plenty of other brands out there too so just try out the regular sets from them to see what you like and then once you know what's good and affordable you can then start the string sperging.

Wash your hands before playing, wipe your strings down after playing and once a week wipe them down with a cleaner (a mineral oil soaked cloth will do, I use fast fret because I'm a schmuck). They'll still get old and lovely but will last a bit longer.

I'll give those a go, thanks. I always wash my hands before playing, but I should start with the wiping down part after playing.

comes along bort posted:

Where you store your guitar (in a case, in a bedroom, in a basement) and humidity where you live have an effect on string life as well, but in my experience Ernie Ball strings do wear out really fast.

They're in my living room in wall hangers; it's humid as gently caress over here (especially during summer), so that may be "helping" the process along.

Thanks for the info.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Edmond Dantes posted:

They're in my living room in wall hangers; it's humid as gently caress over here (especially during summer), so that may be "helping" the process along.

Thanks for the info.

I live right by the beach, so I feel your pain.

If you have cases, toss a desiccant pack in them and keep the guitars in the cases.

Ericadia
Oct 31, 2007

Not A Unicorn

Edmond Dantes posted:

No, they're not actually breaking; I only snapped a couple of high e's when I had just gotten the guitar and wasn't used to changing/tuning strings, I've never actually broken a string while playing.

What I meant with not lasting is that they feel really bad to play after about a month; they start getting dark, feeling "rough" and sound a bit dull (this bit may be placebo effect for all I know).

I don't know how it is with guitar strings but with my bass I've noticed that Super Slinkys consistently lose brightness and start sounding muddy/lovely/turd-fart very quickly compared to GHS Boomers and D'addario XLs (I've ranted about this in the bass thread before). Slinks sound great when they are fresh but they don't stay fresh long enough. I say try out a set of GHS Boomers and see how you like em. For $5, it doesn't hurt to experiment.

Stravinsky
May 31, 2011

Spanish Manlove posted:

Wash your hands before playing, wipe your strings down after playing and once a week wipe them down with a cleaner (a mineral oil soaked cloth will do, I use fast fret because I'm a schmuck). They'll still get old and lovely but will last a bit longer.

Or just do the Danny Gatton method and just say gently caress it and wipe my guitar down with a mixture of beer and cigar ash.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Washing your hands before you play and giving your guitar a good wipe down after is one of the best things you can do for string life and general guitar maintenance.

On the topic of strings, I suggest trying D'Addario 10s and forget the 9s. They will stay in tune better, sound more full, and last longer. If you don't like the feel though go ahead and jump back to 9s. Playing around with string gauges and brands is really fun and you don't need to worry about getting your guitar set for different ones at first. Play around and see what works well for you and then get your guitar setup to line up with what works best.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
For the record I've been playing 10s in standard/half step down for almost 10 years now and I wouldn't have it any other way.

JHVH-1
Jun 28, 2002
This is the same technology a lot of people use for keeping cigars at a regulated humidity:
http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Waves-Humidipak-Automatic-Humidity/dp/B000OMG0KI

It is 2 way so it absorbs or lets of humidity to keep things regulated.

I am trying to see if I can get the bead version which you add water to when they are dry instead of tossing out the pack. I use the beads in my humidor and they are pretty drat good. The guy that sells them says they have them in 50% humidity which is about perfect, but they aren't listed on their main site.

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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I hadn't gotten 10's because I didn't want to fiddle with my setup (had my Tele set to 9's), but since I haven't yet taken my Casino to have her set up I'll probably get a bunch of different 10's to try them out on it and I'll use the remaining EB 9's I have for my Tele.

And I'll start wiping down my guitars after playing. :shobon:

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Spanish Manlove posted:

For the record I've been playing 10s in standard/half step down for almost 10 years now and I wouldn't have it any other way.

For real. 10s just feel normal and 9s feel like playing a toy. The weird thing is the difference between 10s and 12/13s is almost nothing compared to that between 9s and 10s. Of course it's psychological, but still.

JHVH-1
Jun 28, 2002
I usually get the 10s with the heavier bottom but drat $32.54 for 10 sets and a free tuner

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/daddario-exl110-nickel-light-electric-guitar-strings-10-pack

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

JHVH-1 posted:

This is the same technology a lot of people use for keeping cigars at a regulated humidity:
http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Waves-Humidipak-Automatic-Humidity/dp/B000OMG0KI

It is 2 way so it absorbs or lets of humidity to keep things regulated.

I am trying to see if I can get the bead version which you add water to when they are dry instead of tossing out the pack. I use the beads in my humidor and they are pretty drat good. The guy that sells them says they have them in 50% humidity which is about perfect, but they aren't listed on their main site.

That stuff's plain ol' sodium formate with a humectant, probably sodium lactate. I wish I were unscrupulous enough to charge $18 for a tenth of a cent worth of material.

Silica gel's way more effective- it's just crystal cat litter. Take a pinch and put it in a coffee filter, fold and seal with duct tape. A bag of that stuff will last you a lifetime.

Acid Reflux
Oct 18, 2004

Edmond Dantes posted:

I hadn't gotten 10's because I didn't want to fiddle with my setup (had my Tele set to 9's), but since I haven't yet taken my Casino to have her set up I'll probably get a bunch of different 10's to try them out on it and I'll use the remaining EB 9's I have for my Tele.

And I'll start wiping down my guitars after playing. :shobon:

For what it's worth, I switch between 9's and 10's all the time on the same guitars and have never worried a bit about altering the setup. I think a major jump in gauge might require some attention, but I wouldn't fret too much about moving up or down one size.



I typed "fret" before realizing what I'd done. I'm leaving it.

JHVH-1
Jun 28, 2002

comes along bort posted:

That stuff's plain ol' sodium formate with a humectant, probably sodium lactate. I wish I were unscrupulous enough to charge $18 for a tenth of a cent worth of material.

Silica gel's way more effective- it's just crystal cat litter. Take a pinch and put it in a coffee filter, fold and seal with duct tape. A bag of that stuff will last you a lifetime.

I am pretty sure Silica gel can only absorb humidity. If you add water it will not add humidity like the beads and whatever is the packets.

Literally Elvis
Oct 21, 2013

Has anybody here experienced the lower-end Jacksons? I want to get a JS32 Dinky to keep in drop B tuning, and I'm totally down to pull the trigger, but I've never played a Jackson period, so I'm a little scared. :ohdear:

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!

Literally Elvis posted:

Has anybody here experienced the lower-end Jacksons? I want to get a JS32 Dinky to keep in drop B tuning, and I'm totally down to pull the trigger, but I've never played a Jackson period, so I'm a little scared. :ohdear:

Why would a company name their guitar dinky. D:

Sorry that is worthless, but it just made me scratch my head.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

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It depends on how much experience you have with Floyds, I'd say. It's probably a pretty serviceable guitar so long as you're willing to put in a bit of work now and then to keep the bridge up to par.
I'm not sure, but I think that model is made in mexico, so it's probably pretty good.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Jacksons are awesome metal guitars. As long as the build quality of it is good you're set. Block the term and shred your jorts off!

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン

Kilometers Davis posted:

Jacksons are awesome metal guitars. As long as the build quality of it is good you're set. Block the term and shred your jorts off!

I don't think Atheist tuned down to B

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

muike posted:

I don't think Atheist tuned down to B

Animosity did though and I bet they rocked jorts.

animosity riff binge incoming :pcgaming:

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

muike posted:

It depends on how much experience you have with Floyds, I'd say. It's probably a pretty serviceable guitar so long as you're willing to put in a bit of work now and then to keep the bridge up to par.
I'm not sure, but I think that model is made in mexico, so it's probably pretty good.

The JS series are made in India and China.

They're alright- the fretwork is decent enough, but the trems use kinda soft metal so eventually the knife edges will wear down, but that's been the case with Jackson's licensed Floyds since forever.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

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Okay yeah I might be a little more wary then, if only because it has a floyd. It had a compound radius fretboard so I assumed mexico.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

I'd probably pass. I've heard very mixed things about Jacksons, mostly concerns with the QC and build quality off the line.

unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!
Do any of you guys have experience with classic vibe telecasters? I might be able to get one for really cheap, and I hear good things.

edit: A 50's style one apparently.

unlawfulsoup fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Jan 30, 2014

Warcabbit
Apr 26, 2008

Wedge Regret
Uhm. Yes. So do that.

It is one of the three go-to guitars of the thread.

PaganGoatPants
Jan 18, 2012

TODAY WAS THE SPECIAL SALE DAY!
Grimey Drawer

unlawfulsoup posted:

Do any of you guys have experience with classic vibe telecasters? I might be able to get one for really cheap, and I hear good things.

edit: A 50's style one apparently.

I really like mine if that counts for anything.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

unlawfulsoup posted:

Do any of you guys have experience with classic vibe telecasters? I might be able to get one for really cheap, and I hear good things.

edit: A 50's style one apparently.

Buy it or I'll go on a tangent.

They're awesome.

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unlawfulsoup
May 12, 2001

Welcome home boys!
Yeah, I think someone mentioned it and the reviews are phenomenal. I am a pretty big fan of telecaster style bodies too.

TIME to scrounge money.

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