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Speaking of weird XIII-2 glitches, in Academia 4XX, why do random civilians just drop over on the ground and scream when you run through? No one even mentions it, it's a pretty chill place and then just randomly NPCs are on the ground dead/unconscious.
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alcharagia posted:Eternal Sonata is fun because you get to have Chopin spout ridiculous lines like TRIUMPH AND VICTORY, THE HOOF BEATS OF THE BRUTAL HORDE APPROACH and then he blows fuckers up with lightning for like five-digit damage or something ridiculous. Also it's pretty fun to play.
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Jan 29, 2014 07:01
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DACK FAYDEN posted:It's been four years since I first played it, and my former roommate and I will still text each other quotes. There are some that actually work - "you paid dearly for that" comes to mind, given that it's Wesker's voice - but most of them are just us going "vanish in the absolute emptiness of the karmic beyond!" I'd say my personal favorite has to be THERE IS NO ONE ELSE, I AM THE ONLY ONE HERE because it's the final boss abjectly denying that the people he's fighting even exist. That just tickles my fancy.
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Jan 29, 2014 07:12
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Its suppose to imply that Noel and Serah are assholes, and shove people over/living in Academia has induced vertigo in everyone, and they fall over randomly. They do get up after a few seconds though.
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Jan 29, 2014 07:13
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DACK FAYDEN posted:It's been four years since I first played it, and my former roommate and I will still text each other quotes. There are some that actually work - "you paid dearly for that" comes to mind, given that it's Wesker's voice - but most of them are just us going "vanish in the absolute emptiness of the karmic beyond!" All I know is I switched the voices to Japanese so it would only be maybe three-quarters as embarrassing to listen to, and then Chopin keeps going "COOP DE GRAYSU!"
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Jan 29, 2014 07:29
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Is Academia 400 where the encounter rate inexplicably like, quintuples but all the fights are so easy it takes longer to load/exit the fight than the actual fighting? Because that place is the absolute least amount of fun I've ever had with a FF, I think. Just abysmally awful.
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Jan 29, 2014 07:38
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Great Lakes Log posted:Is Academia 400 where the encounter rate inexplicably like, quintuples but all the fights are so easy it takes longer to load/exit the fight than the actual fighting? alcharagia posted:I'd say my personal favorite has to be THERE IS NO ONE ELSE, I AM THE ONLY ONE HERE because it's the final boss abjectly denying that the people he's fighting even exist. That just tickles my fancy. We spent like fifteen minutes farming that one up and failed.
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Jan 29, 2014 07:56
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Great Lakes Log posted:Is Academia 400 where the encounter rate inexplicably like, quintuples but all the fights are so easy it takes longer to load/exit the fight than the actual fighting? As an extra gently caress you, the constant stream of unavoidable fights also don't give XP.
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Jan 29, 2014 08:06
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It was kind of a neat idea, but you'd think someone somewhere in play testing would have said "Yeah this poo poo is super tedious to actually play, guys."
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Jan 29, 2014 08:30
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chumbler posted:It was kind of a neat idea, but you'd think someone somewhere in play testing would have said "Yeah this poo poo is super tedious to actually play, guys." Play...testing? 
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Jan 29, 2014 08:56
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At least Academia looks quite nice?chumbler posted:"Yeah this poo poo is super tedious to actually play, guys." I've just read through all of this "XIII-2 is really awful" conversation, I've just quoted something inarguably true and I've suddenly got the urge to play XIII-2. What the gently caress is wrong with me.
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Jan 29, 2014 09:04
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Aurain posted:At least Academia looks quite nice? It has neat super bosses. That you have to pay for.  That being said I did just finish up the Lightning DLC for XIII-2. I guess they were already pretty set on the combat system that was coming in Lightning Returns by that point? Because even though it was just one fight over and over, it really showcases what's fun/tactical about the combat in the series. If you aren't properly timing your shifts you won't win the fight.
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Jan 29, 2014 09:10
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I only really want to fight the Ultros boss in XIII-2, but I can't afford to buy silly boss fights for games. I only want the Ultros one because  UltrosApparently Akihiko Yoshida is joining the Kickstarter for Matsuno's new SRPG, and won't be a stretch goal. That truly is looking to be an Ivalice/Ogre Battle successor and I'm praying they at least meet the Sakimoto stretch goal.
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Jan 29, 2014 09:22
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Not Gilgamesh? For shame.
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I think I'll try out Suikoden then based on the suggestions so far, they've gotta be on PSN or whatever right? Are they generally well written games? Are we talking FF7 (bad) or FF9 (good) writing wise? Before anyone jumps down my throat, the quality of the script in FF9 is generally quite good, say what you will about the plot and stuff.
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cat doter posted:I think I'll try out Suikoden then based on the suggestions so far, they've gotta be on PSN or whatever right? The original Suikoden is on PSN. The rest are tucked away safely in a vault, where Konami can't accidentally make money or engender goodwill off them or something. Who knows if they'll ever see a rerelease in any form, even in Japan. The last bit of PR I saw from them regarding this issue just said "be patient" and that was at least a year ago. But yes, my bitterness aside, Suikoden games are generally very well written. Suikoden II, III, and V especially, though getting your hands on those can be expensive; Suikoden II in particular may cost you a limb, or a firstborn child. It was up in the same range as old Saturn RPGs like Panzer Dragoon Saga and Dragon Force the last time I checked. Anyway, the original Suikoden is no slouch either. It probably hasn't held up as well as its sequels, but it's a perfectly enjoyable old RPG and far more playable than some of its contemporaries, like the first Persona.
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The main reason Suikoden 2 hasn't seen a rerelease is that it's a very buggy game. Nothing that really breaks it but Konami is unwilling or unable to fix the bugs needed for a PSN release.
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Jan 29, 2014 13:43
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I think the Shadow Hearts series is incredible, some of the best RPGs on the PS2. 1-2 are direct sequels but the 3rd is a stand alone game with multiple endings and a better battle system/characters. For reference, your party consists of a Native American lycanthrope, a plucky upstart teen (who is more than meets the Eye) and Antonio Banderas from once upon a time in Mexico. The first two games are very somber but funny and the 3rd is very cool.
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You forgot the middle-aged Brazilian ninja, whose master is a giant talking drunken master cat who you help bust Al Capone out of prison. Also the magical girl vampire who has a nasty sweet tooth and different powers depending on how fat she currently is. Oh, and you get sidequests from H.P. Lovecraft.
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Jan 29, 2014 15:41
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Was that the game where you had to find gay porn to trade for magic dresses for your living doll? I remember that Penny Arcade but not if it's about Shadow Hearts or not.
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Jan 29, 2014 16:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQrBSO74DzA This trailer for Lightning Returns is interesting, as it a recap of the FFXIII and FFIII-2 plot using Final Fantasy VI style sprites. It really well done too, but bums me out they cant just make a new game like this, instead of the horrible iOS style they been using.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Was that the game where you had to find gay porn to trade for magic dresses for your living doll? Its shadow hearts 2. Shadow Hearts 2 also had the The Man Festival Shadow Hearts 1 also had a pretty kinky torture snuff scene where you could find a naughty magazine. That is the key item needed to get the good ending in the game.
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^^^ [e]: Oh, yeah, the Man Festival.  DACK FAYDEN posted:Was that the game where you had to find gay porn to trade for magic dresses for your living doll? Yep. You find collectable gay erotica, give them to an efemminate gay dressmaker, who'll then make dresses for your doll so it can cast different magic skills.  Don't let that put anyone off though, the combat is great, and the above is just a small part of the campy weirdness.
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Rirse posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQrBSO74DzA It's really well done because it's a hyper edited video where you can keep the pacing up and frantic. It really wouldn't work in a full game. And Dimensions is literally what you're looking for. Minus the people sprites it's FF6 as hell and even those are actually really well done in that game. The super ugly look has only really happened in the iOS port of 6, but I'll never understand why people would care since they can get better versions of FF6 for almost every system under the sun. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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Aurain posted:I only really want to fight the Ultros boss in XIII-2, but I can't afford to buy silly boss fights for games. I only want the Ultros one because I didn't even realize that guy left Square! He did a real good job on XIV too. Hopefully that kickstarter makes it. Rirse posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQrBSO74DzA Something about that Caius/Oracle scene and how it's represented in this made me burst out laughing. Also illustrates very well how crazy X-2 is. dreffen fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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dreffen posted:I didn't even realize that guy left Square! He did a real good job on XIV too. That's another Yoshida The one working on FFXIV is Naoki Yoshida!e: wait, nm. Akihiko Yoshida did the character design for FFXIV.
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Veks posted:That's another Yoshida Oh man if Yoshi-P left SE I would be screaming abandon ship.
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Rirse posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQrBSO74DzA Haha. Yule running right up to Caius 4 times with the loud thumping sound is hilarious.
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Rirse posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQrBSO74DzA Missed this the first time. Holy poo poo, it actually looks kinda decent. Alight, they're reusing assets from All the Bravest, but that looks so much better than those upcoming re-releases style.
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Rirse posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQrBSO74DzA Why is Serah a crystal? What is being curse with l'Cie? What did the bad guy even want? What did Vanille and Fang do to Cocoon? Can people still live there? Why does Caius want to kill Lightning? How can he make paradoxes? What the gently caress was that scene with that person who keeps dying before reaching Caius? Was that supposed to be hilarious? What even happened in the ending? I don't?
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Butt Ghost posted:I don't? As someone who did play the game, my reaction to these plot points was about the same, sooooo... boblemoche fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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Jan 29, 2014 17:59
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Yeah honestly it only makes marginally more sense if you have played them.
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Butt Ghost posted:As someone who has never played either of those games, I was unable to follow any of that. The datalogs have the answers to all your questions.
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Butt Ghost posted:As someone who has never played either of those games, I was unable to follow any of that. Because. That's the reason. Serah is a crystal because she completed her focus, being cursed as a l'cie means completing your focus or turning into a mindless monster, Fang and Vanille were tasked with destroying cocoon several hundred years prior to 13, and no people can't live in Cocoon anymore. Caius wants to kill Lightning because he wants to kill Etro who is the goddess of whatever, time, the paradoxes happened because Lightning (or something else I don't remember), Caius and the lady dying over and over is the Oracle, Caius is one of the two protectors of the oracle and every time the oracle sees the future or something she's closer to dying and Caius is basically immortal so he gets to see the oracle die a bunch, eventually says "gently caress this poo poo" and decides to destroy time so the oracle doesn't have to keep dying, and serah for some reason I don't remember has the same power as the oracles so everytime she corrects the paradoxes she's closer to dying and then she dies. Caius is also dead which released  CHAOS onto the world and now the world is ending an that's where Lightning Returns comes in. I think I got most of it.
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Aurain posted:Apparently Akihiko Yoshida is joining the Kickstarter for Matsuno's new SRPG, and won't be a stretch goal. OK, now I can more officially be excited. Why hasn't this met its funding goal yet? I think it got like 350K on its first day, and has now taken two weeks to get another 80K. I'm disappointed in nerds everywhere.
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Schwartzcough posted:OK, now I can more officially be excited. Why hasn't this met its funding goal yet? I think it got like 350K on its first day, and has now taken two weeks to get another 80K. I'm disappointed in nerds everywhere. They did a terrible job being transparent about what Matsuno's involvement would be, no gameplay mockups to speak of and tons of really energetic, seemingly sincere marketing speak. I pledged but I feel like they really didn't understand how to bring the project to the table in terms that Matsuno-nerds would identify with.
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Schwartzcough posted:OK, now I can more officially be excited. Why hasn't this met its funding goal yet? I think it got like 350K on its first day, and has now taken two weeks to get another 80K. I'm disappointed in nerds everywhere. Most of the popular kick starters in 2012 or whatever got a surge of funding near the end id expect (hope) that it'll be the same here
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Rirse posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQrBSO74DzA That is a masterpiece. Whoever made it perfectly captured how incredibly stupid the plot of 13-2 is and the random jumps in 13. There is a palpable loathing for the source material all over it. Good sprites and remixes of the music, too. vvvv No kidding. I wonder if this was produced by the North American division on its own or if it was made by Square Japan. I have a hard time believing the latter but could very easily see the former. chumbler fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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chumbler posted:That is a masterpiece. Whoever made it perfectly captured how incredibly stupid the plot of 13-2 is and the random jumps in 13. There is a palpable loathing for the source material all over it. This was posted on the official Square Enix North America channel. So it shows how much Square thinks of the plot of those games.
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