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MrAristocrates posted:Legend of Korra airs on Nickelodeon, not CN. And?
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PriorMarcus posted:And? It's a bad show, yeah, but I can't give a poo poo about Irish Joe opinions anymore. That shtick stopped being funny a long time ago.
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Jan 29, 2014 20:58
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MrAristocrates posted:It's a bad show, yeah, but I can't give a poo poo about Irish Joe opinions anymore. That shtick stopped being funny a long time ago. However, the fact that you think its a shtick will never not be funny.
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Jan 29, 2014 21:16
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Hey! No breaking the 4th wall!
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Jan 29, 2014 21:18
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scary ghost dog posted:Adventure Time is actually the good poo poo, the transcendent program that everyone will still be talking about in half a century like Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny. this is 100% true, and rick and morty is fantastic. People who feel the need to come in and poo poo all over everyone else's enjoyment are the worst. "um well I noticed you guys are enjoying this show so I thought I'd come tell you that actually I didn't enjoy it whatsoever". actually maybe they're second to the "nope people only like it because this guy i don't like is involved so here's an excuse to talk poo poo about both!!!! yay!!!!" either way shut up all of you also if you give irish joe even the slightest amount of attention in his mind he chalks it up as a win and the amount of you not getting this after months and months is exhausting
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Jan 29, 2014 21:24
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It's great that Irish Joe exists because dissenting opinions are necessary as context to validate your own opinions.
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Jan 29, 2014 21:36
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Part of the appeal of "Rick and Morty" (and why its getting so much traction/praise as this becomes more obvious each episode) is that Harman and Rolland are storytellers. In between the jokes and high concept sci-fi rigamarole there's also these little bits of personality beyond the archetypes which adds a whole lot of emotional range without ever having to deviate from the genre. Unlike a lot of comedies (Archer, for example) the story and characters aren't perpetually flippant so you get these little moments like say Rick messing up Morty's hair reminding him "a little rough housing is okay every now and then" which add this extra dimension to their relationship, amplified in contrast to their normal insane, reckless behavior that fuels each story. Similarly, the show expands its range by stepping back once in awhile to highlight the really hosed up consequences of their adventures like in the most recent episode with Morty's existential trauma burying his own corpse. And most impressive it manages these emotional bounces without ever feeling forced or artificial. It's not just a good comedy, it's a good show.
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Jan 29, 2014 21:41
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scary ghost dog posted:It's great that Irish Joe exists because dissenting opinions are necessary as context to validate your own opinions. Agreed, echo chambers are bad poo poo. Even if I agree with him like 10% of the time, it's cool that he gets me to re-evaluate stuff like 2 Broke Girls which I otherwise wouldn't have given a chance.
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Jan 29, 2014 21:50
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Shageletic posted:People here really, really like sci-fi and cartoons. Take that into account, and adjust. I like sci-fi but no cartoons after Batman the Animated Series...I must not belong here.
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Jan 29, 2014 21:51
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Yeah, that guy who stole my money last weekend really helped me re-evaluate my attachment to material possessions.
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Paradox Personified posted:Yeah, that guy who stole my money last weekend really helped me re-evaluate my attachment to material possessions. Totally comparable. Also, I think that having money stolen would be a good catalyst for really thinking about what it meant to you.
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Jan 29, 2014 22:02
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Irish Joe is the Borat of TVIV and the forum would be a lesser place without him
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Jan 29, 2014 22:16
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Bown posted:this is 100% true, and rick and morty is fantastic. People who feel the need to come in and poo poo all over everyone else's enjoyment are the worst. "um well I noticed you guys are enjoying this show so I thought I'd come tell you that actually I didn't enjoy it whatsoever". actually maybe they're second to the "nope people only like it because this guy i don't like is involved so here's an excuse to talk poo poo about both!!!! yay!!!!" either way shut up all of you Yeah, I don't know, even as somebody who loves Rick and Morty (AND Archer, BTW!), I wouldn't say that anyone who dislikes it has no right to talk about it.* Whether you make a reasonable pushback or you're just a dick about it -- and I do hope to hear more of the former -- it's all perspective and it's healthy to have it as a TV viewer. Lack of perspective leads to poo poo like the Community threads. *Admittedly, I did say things like that once upon a time, and I happily admit that it feels nice to be in an echo chamber; I still seek them out, and won't really complain when show threads turn into them. But I grew up a little and realized what kind of damage that can do, so I'm trying not to complain about dissenting opinions unless I have a good answer for them. Granted, I tend to fail, but I still try. Call it a New Year's resolution.
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Rarity posted:Irish Joe is the Borat of TVIV and the forum would be a lesser place without him Can I be the Brüno? (Brüno is my favorite comedy movie of all time)
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Thanks for the valuable input. I'll cancel my DVR season recording right now. How foolish I feel... If couch chat is safe for people to zealously overhype shows, as it should be, then it should probably be OK to voice a contrary opinion. I for one am glad not every single person here is buying what Rick and Morty is selling. I was starting to think I was the only one who didn't care for it.
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Jan 29, 2014 22:28
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precision posted:If couch chat is safe for people to zealously overhype shows, as it should be, then it should probably be OK to voice a contrary opinion. I for one am glad not every single person here is buying what Rick and Morty is selling. I was starting to think I was the only one who didn't care for it. I've never seen it. Don't really want to either.
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Jan 29, 2014 22:33
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Thanks for the valuable input. I'll cancel my DVR season recording right now. How foolish I feel... You know, you guys don't have to turn into gigantic babies if someone doesn't like the same things you do.
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Jan 29, 2014 22:34
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raditts posted:You know, you guys don't have to turn into gigantic babies if someone doesn't like the same things you do. I made a reasonable point as to why I think it's a good show. My annoyance was he came in and said its a bad show without saying anything meaningful beyond he doesn't see the appeal. I'm all for debate and discussion about my TV, but bring something more than "this show is dumb."
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VorpalBunny posted:So comedy is subjective? Who knew!? Tuxedo Jack posted:Thanks for the valuable input. I'll cancel my DVR season recording right now. How foolish I feel... And then... Irish Joe posted:Rick and Morty is funny, pretty and inventive (at least compared to Archer, which has been repeating the same tired in-jokes for four loving years now). Yeah, you won't spontaneously cum from watching it, but its far and away the best animated show on Cartoon Network and easily the 2nd best cartoon currently airing. You know for the amount of making GBS threads on Irish Joe you guys do at least he replied with something besides being whiny little shits. Or as raddits put it raditts posted:You know, you guys don't have to turn into gigantic babies if someone doesn't like the same things you do. Yeah I didn't like it after I gave the show a few episodes. It's just an opinion. Also I agree on the Korra points as despite it's flaws it certainly is a nice looking thing to watch. Tuxedo Jack posted:I made a reasonable point as to why I think it's a good show. My annoyance was he came in and said its a bad show without saying anything meaningful beyond he doesn't see the appeal. I didn't like it. Why should I have to write a college thesis to explain "I didn't like a thing."
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Tuxedo Jack posted:I made a reasonable point as to why I think it's a good show. My annoyance was he came in and said its a bad show without saying anything meaningful beyond he doesn't see the appeal. You know that this is a comedy forum right? I love a good, seriously discussion about TV but if someone comes in and casually says they don't like a show, even if they harmlessly call it poo poo, it's not a big deal. Next time just don't get so bent out of shape dude.
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You guys are sure mad about my off the cuff crack at the content of the guys post. Yeah, I'm way bent out of shape over it. 
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Jan 29, 2014 23:26
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Tuxedo Jack posted:I made a reasonable point as to why I think it's a good show. My annoyance was he came in and said its a bad show without saying anything meaningful beyond he doesn't see the appeal. This is pretty much my point too. Dissenting opinions about a popular show are fine and welcome but a lot of posts, especially ones related to Rick and Morty, seem to consist of nothing more than people who almost seem annoyed that the show is popular and just want to let other people know that well, actually, they weren't that impressed.
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Bown posted:This is pretty much my point too. Dissenting opinions about a popular show are fine and welcome but a lot of posts, especially ones related to Rick and Morty, seem to consist of nothing more than people who almost seem annoyed that the show is popular and just want to let other people know that well, actually, they weren't that impressed. Most of the posts praising it are equally empty and nondescript, though. Just in the other direction. Neither side's a winner here.
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precision posted:If couch chat is safe for people to zealously overhype shows, as it should be, then it should probably be OK to voice a contrary opinion. I for one am glad not every single person here is buying what Rick and Morty is selling. I was starting to think I was the only one who didn't care for it. The IRC got me to watch an episode last night. I'm with you on this one. I guess I can see the appeal, but it definitely would have benefited from being about half as long. I guess kind of in the way that the Metalocalypse season that had half hour episodes dragged rear end compared to the 15 minute format.
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Bown posted:This is pretty much my point too. Dissenting opinions about a popular show are fine and welcome but a lot of posts, especially ones related to Rick and Morty, seem to consist of nothing more than people who almost seem annoyed that the show is popular and just want to let other people know that well, actually, they weren't that impressed. You mean the literally 2 that were voiced for the first time today?
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Tuxedo Jack posted:You guys are sure mad about my off the cuff crack at the content of the guys post. Yeah, I'm way bent out of shape over it. Ah yes, the classic Sun Tzu strategy "The Enemy Is Angry; My Thoughts Flow Above Such Emotions, Shitlord". Colon rolleyes colon. Also yeah that season of Metalocalypse was terrible.
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I've found the stories/concepts of each Rick & Morty episode pretty interesting (especially most recent episode), but haven't really laughed at it at all. The many vocal tics and repeated words of the titular characters are immensely grating to me too. But yeah, I can totally appreciate why other people love it and could see myself coming round to it. Although a totally different kind of show other than being animated, Steven Universe had been consistently phenomenal in many different ways all of this season.
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GraPar posted:I've found the stories/concepts of each Rick & Morty episode pretty interesting (especially most recent episode), but haven't really laughed at it at all. The many vocal tics and repeated words of the titular characters are immensely grating to me too. You almost have to wonder if the incessant repeating of the character's names (literally almost every other line of dialogue ends or starts with one) was network-mandated, to get new viewers who may be tuning in for the first time familiarized to them or something. It's distractingly excessive and unnatural, so I hope they really dial that down as the show settles into a steady viewerbase.
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I think the name repeating thing is funny, and I only notice it from Rick, who I assume just has that as a character trait. In other news, I'm legit enjoying The Following this season.
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Jan 30, 2014 02:07
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PriorMarcus posted:You know that this is a comedy forum right? I love a good, seriously discussion about TV but if someone comes in and casually says they don't like a show, even if they harmlessly call it poo poo, it's not a big deal. For real. It's not even like I formed an opinion second hand. I watched some episodes and it just did nothing for me. But people snapping off replies like that is what gives TV/IV a reputation as being some inclusive clique instead of somewhere to shoot the poo poo about a television show.
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Jan 30, 2014 02:10
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Guys, how are we ever going to reach a concensus about tv this way
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Chamberk posted:Actually, we mostly get the reputation of being the worst forum.
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:Guys, how are we ever going to reach a concensus about tv this way
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I'm just saying, this is partly why I got rambly and defensive when I made that Space Dandy recommendation. We need some kind of chill word for when we're all feeling like everyone's out to get us.
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Jan 30, 2014 02:25
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Chamberk posted:Actually, we mostly get the reputation of being the worst forum. Haha! No I'm pretty sure that's CineD even on it's best days. Still things got better here with the change in leadership and I can only imagine they will over there too.
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DivisionPost posted:I'm just saying, this is partly why I got rambly and defensive when I made that Space Dandy recommendation. You shouldn't ever feel the need to defend this (  ) from people.
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