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Friday Persona Q update: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6psKPODX3I Shinji https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkXE1Kqf2nI Yukiko
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Jan 24, 2014 16:19
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Man the more trailers that come out for Q the more and more I hate the artstyle. The graphics just look so..blocky, and the color palette makes everything look smuged. It doesn't really remind me of EO's sprites at all which are pretty crisp. Game itself looks fun at least, though. Hoping they follow EO's recent trend of having a casual mode so normal mode difficulty doesn't suffer.
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Jan 24, 2014 16:22
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I find the artstyle really cute, though I agree stuff like the way Yukiko's bangs get all pixelly and weird at the ends is a bit off. And, well, unlike EO the player characters actually have in-game models.
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Jan 24, 2014 16:26
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Dehry posted:Friday Persona Q update: You know, is gonna be really weird to have humanity on the brink of destruction or summoning demons like Mara on this artstyle. I can't help but think about Persona Q like being the goofy harmless spinoff.
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Jan 24, 2014 16:50
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Man the more trailers that come out for Q the more and more I hate the artstyle. The graphics just look so..blocky, and the color palette makes everything look smuged. It doesn't really remind me of EO's sprites at all which are pretty crisp. I think what part of what makes colors look all smudgy comes from the quality of video capping out at 360p. There's a lot of noise in the video that's pretty obvious if you try to gif anything that's moving around.
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Jan 24, 2014 17:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlsdB6yyKXA Yukiko Translated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf8r0QkxExc Shinji Translated
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Jan 24, 2014 18:00
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oblomov posted:Didn't SMT IV sell 150k or so I the West? Not in Europe!  loving release it in the UK, at least! WE SPEAK ENGLISH!
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Jan 24, 2014 18:46
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The_White_Crane posted:Not in Europe! No, loving release it in Europe! We speak english too!
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Jan 24, 2014 18:58
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MonsieurChoc posted:In my dreams, the special edition of the SMT1 remake is the "All Your Friends Are Dead Edition". Now, that's not fair. The Heroine survives. Ok, so she dies and gets reincarnated, granted. Saigyouji fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jan 24, 2014 |
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Jan 24, 2014 19:58
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Endorph posted:I find the artstyle really cute, though I agree stuff like the way Yukiko's bangs get all pixelly and weird at the ends is a bit off.
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Jan 24, 2014 22:20
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The_White_Crane posted:Not in Europe! Iceclaw posted:No, loving release it in Europe! We speak english too! Random question: why do game developers (especially Japanese ones) hate the EU/PAL zone so much? If it's the translation thing, then, yeah, why not at least release in English speaking countries?
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Jan 24, 2014 22:31
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In this case in particular, Atlus has no European branch. Thus, they cannot publish their games in Europe without going through someone who does (ie Square Enix with Persona 4, NISA with Soul Hackers and Etrian Odyssey 4, etc). The obvious answer is that they should establish an Atlus EU, but hopefully Sega being in charge now means that more of their games will make it over to Europe. E: Since we're on the subject of SMT4, I just started a new game and I'm going to try and make it farther than just reaching Tokyo. Are magic builds still the go-to build, or are strength builds viable too? I don't seem to remember strength doing a whole lot, but it's also been months since I played so my memory isn't the best thing to go off of. 
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Jan 24, 2014 22:34
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Man the more trailers that come out for Q the more and more I hate the artstyle. The graphics just look so..blocky, and the color palette makes everything look smuged. It doesn't really remind me of EO's sprites at all which are pretty crisp. I think part of it too is that a 3DS screen isn't as large as the video in the youtube player. It'll probably look a lot crisper on a smaller screen. E: Artix posted:E: Since we're on the subject of SMT4, I just started a new game and I'm going to try and make it farther than just reaching Tokyo. Are magic builds still the go-to build, or are strength builds viable too? I don't seem to remember strength doing a whole lot, but it's also been months since I played so my memory isn't the best thing to go off of. Magic is good, yeah. Physical builds focus on agility do to how physical skill damage is calculated, but I think either is totally viable.
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Jan 24, 2014 22:42
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Sega owns Atlus outright now, don't they? Won't they be publishing all their games regardless of territory from here on out?
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Jan 24, 2014 22:42
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if you're going for a physical build it's better to level Dexterity than Strength, which is basically a dump stat.
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Jan 24, 2014 22:43
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Artix posted:In this case in particular, Atlus has no European branch. Thus, they cannot publish their games in Europe without going through someone who does (ie Square Enix with Persona 4, NISA with Soul Hackers and Etrian Odyssey 4, etc). The obvious answer is that they should establish an Atlus EU, but hopefully Sega being in charge now means that more of their games will make it over to Europe. Time will tell. Right now nothing is confirmed for the US branch as well. The only games currently scheduled for release are Conception II and Daylight. Their side business is to localize and publish non Atlus games. They were recently looking for a web designer for a short term project with Japanese translation as a plus, so something is coming soon. epitasis posted:Sega owns Atlus outright now, don't they? Won't they be publishing all their games regardless of territory from here on out? The Index acquisition was pretty much a transfer of ownership more than a merger. They kept the company structure intact and changed the name from Sega Dream to Index as their first order of business. Pink slips would have gone out a couple months ago if Atlus USA were going to be fired. The home office even visited and bought Persona 3 Movie swag last month. Dehry fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jan 24, 2014 |
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Jan 24, 2014 22:43
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I'm just asking why Atlus would have to worry about setting up a European publisher.
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Jan 24, 2014 22:51
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epitasis posted:I'm just asking why Atlus would have to worry about setting up a European publisher. Yeah I'd imagine that Sega will publish Atlus games in Europe from now on, since they have a European branch. Someone at Sega even said that one of the advantages of the buyout will be Atlus being able to utilize Sega's superior distribution network. On the other hand, there's SMT IV. Seems like a weird case though, in that Nintendo said they would publish it before the buyout. I wonder if the reason it is taking so long is from the ensuing chaos that the buyout caused. Either way, hope they hear news about it soon.
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Jan 24, 2014 22:58
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Artix posted:In this case in particular, Atlus has no European branch. Thus, they cannot publish their games in Europe without going through someone who does (ie Square Enix with Persona 4, NISA with Soul Hackers and Etrian Odyssey 4, etc). The obvious answer is that they should establish an Atlus EU, but hopefully Sega being in charge now means that more of their games will make it over to Europe. A dex (physical) build will give you more freedom with skills than a magic one, since the latter will have over half of its set busy with all the elemental spells and almighty. Magic builds also tend to be way more expensive MP wise than dex builds. I'd say magic builds are more useful in the beginning, where you need to exploit weaknesses all the time and physical builds are better in the lategame, where you can oneshot any random enemy with Heaven's Bow/Hades Blast anyway.
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Jan 24, 2014 23:05
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I feel like Metatron isn't that hard on the surface, but I can't loving beat him. I'd really like to put Devil Survivor - Overclocked behind me finally. I got a solid 70 hours out of the game, but I'd like to move on and be at peace. The guides seems to say to just load up on demons with revive and elec/holy dance, but I just get wiped out too fast. Argh!
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Jan 24, 2014 23:57
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All you need is holy dance, dual shadow and a demon with Double Up. If you want to get extra silly, savescum for the perfect procs on dance/dual shadow. I was curious and ended up downing him in a single "turn" that way. My MC was around level 70.
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Jan 25, 2014 00:03
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Alright, I'm level 75 at this point, and I should have all that stuff. I'll give it a go, thanks!
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Jan 25, 2014 00:30
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Z-Neth posted:Latest versions have apparently managed to remove broken shadows entirely. It still doesn't exactly fix them, but it should be a lot less annoying. Yeap, it's not that bad and the graphics and nice and clean with large internal res bump. Let's just say it's a lot less annoying vs PS2 output to modern LED TV. Plus some of the quality of life features like save states are pretty nice.
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Jan 25, 2014 05:14
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Iceclaw posted:No, loving release it in Europe! We speak english too! Completely forgot that they still haven't released SMT IV in UK/EU mainland. That's just ridiculous. Doesn't NISA have that publishing agreement now or did Sega screw up another localization attempt? Edit: I should really read later posts. If only 3DS didn't have that region lock  .
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Jan 25, 2014 05:16
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oblomov posted:Completely forgot that they still haven't released SMT IV in UK/EU mainland. That's just ridiculous. Doesn't NISA have that publishing agreement now or did Sega screw up another localization attempt? Amazon's just taunting anyone who pre-ordered it from them at this point. Every month or so they just send you an email saying 'Nah, we still don't know when this is coming out.'
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Jan 25, 2014 16:09
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Seems like there is a pretty big disconnect between 8 star challenge quests in the normal game of SMTIV and 8 star DLC challenge quests. The former I can finish no problem, whereas the latter is a pretty big kick in the balls. Which ones flesh out the story the most? "For the Past, For the Future" I'm guessing? Are the rest only really worth doing for obtaining more unique fusions?
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Jan 25, 2014 21:10
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It's worth doing all the DLC quests, in my opinion but Broken Wings (I think it's called that? it's the one divided into two parts) and For the Past, For the Future, are the big ones. The other two give just a tiny bit of plot each.
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Jan 25, 2014 21:41
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You should do Broken Wings if only for that boss music.
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Jan 25, 2014 21:45
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Ibram Gaunt posted:It's worth doing all the DLC quests, in my opinion but Broken Wings (I think it's called that? it's the one divided into two parts) and For the Past, For the Future, are the big ones. The other two give just a tiny bit of plot each. E: Primarily because of Lamentation, which forced me to use Salvation every turn. E2: Beat the Clipped Wings, and now am trying some of the others. gently caress Sanat. Is he basically impossible with a Magic-based MC? Feels like I just have to get super lucky 3 or so rounds in a row with smirks to avoid having my heavy Gun hitters become lost to Gaea Rage. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't have to wait several minutes to reload the DLC every single time. Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jan 26, 2014 |
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Jan 25, 2014 22:28
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Sanat's probably one of the dumbest superbosses in SMT games and it's not due to any actual difficulty. It's that you need to build a specific team to fight him if you want to win and if you built a certain kind of MC, then you are going to have a significantly more difficult time. He's immune to basically every single thing except gun which is the what he's weak to, Gaea's Rage can slap your team out of play, and he has piercing abilities with his physical attacks, so yeah. The best way to handle him is just to have everyone in the team use Archangel's Law, he misses his attacks (This is not guaranteed), and then you hit him and use it all over again until you win the fight. It's meticulous as hell but it works for the most part. Like he's Elizabeth levels of stupid demon specific team you need. Captain Baal fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Jan 26, 2014 |
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Jan 26, 2014 20:19
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I got some pretty good advice in the SMTIV thread for Sanat at least: if you don't actually use a gun attack he doesn't use Gaea Rage (at first). So you load up a team that Repels Phys/Gun and hit him with Almighty attacks while he reflects junk back in his face. However even that wasn't good enough on its own because eventually he will start to use Gaea Rage anyway. So you still need to solo him in the second half with your MC. So I just gave him the best fighting chance he could have: Luster Candy, Debilitate, and Doping. Shoot with his weak-rear end default gun attack, and use Salvation afterwards. It took a while and you still have to roll the dice when your MC gets Panicked and hope he doesn't fail to cast Salvation, but I was able to pull through eventually. Ancient of Days is the same sort of way, in that if you hit his weaknesses he does some dumb bullshit in retaliation. In that case all I had to due was re-purpose my Gabriel/Michael team (full Repel Ice/Fire) to also have Raphael's Brand attack. Then just pray it doesn't wear off on his first turn.
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Jan 26, 2014 21:04
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Anyone know if there's a place with a script rip for persona 1 portable? not able to locate anything that isn't persona 3 portable.
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Jan 27, 2014 04:01
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Yeah I enjoy bosses where they test how powerful you've become, I don't enjoy when it's less about that and more about "I hope you have these specific things" But SMT4 had a lot of bosses that just tested how powerful you were so I guess it's not a big deal, especially since it was DLC so you know what you're in for.
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Jan 27, 2014 07:30
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So Marvalous is shutting down the IMAGINE servers sometime in the future. What this means for the game? No clue.
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Jan 30, 2014 02:43
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SMT IV isn't on the Nintendo upcoming European releases sheet they gave out at today's press conference.
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Jan 30, 2014 02:48
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Dehry posted:SMT IV isn't on the Nintendo upcoming European releases sheet they gave out at today's press conference. Were other non-nintendo games on the list?
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Jan 30, 2014 04:51
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The_Frag_Man posted:Were other non-nintendo games on the list? SMT x Fire Emblem was.
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Jan 30, 2014 04:54
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Wrapped up SMTIV. Neutral ending was good. Game was good. Also to no surprise whatsoever it turns out that my final DLC team (Kannuki-Throw and Refrigerate with the corresponding Pierces) can also be used to wreck both of the big story bosses.
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Jan 30, 2014 05:39
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Strange Quark posted:SMT x Fire Emblem was. What can this even be at this point? I remember reading that a full, highly produced Fire Emblem on the Wii U would require several hundreds of thousands of copies to be sold to break even, so running on that wouldn't a similar crossover be just as expensive. I'm assuming it's a turn based strategy game, but even if it's a different genre I'm still really surprised this isn't a 3DS game.
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Nate RFB posted:Also to no surprise whatsoever it turns out that my final DLC team (Kannuki-Throw and Refrigerate with the corresponding Pierces) can also be used to wreck both of the big story bosses. Try adding in Guardian Eye. I beat Merkabah in one turn with Flynn, Uriel, and Masakado.
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