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Castomira posted:Oh, I get it. When the announcers say "longest time between reigns," they're talking about the tag titles only. Makes more sense now. No, you're right. Moolah was 13 years and the Outlaws 14. Backlund was only 11 years but seemed much longer.
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Ghostpilot posted:Tuesday in Texas wasn't a bad PPV per se I recently rewatched the PPV for the first time in like 20 years and it's a really bad PPV. Pretty much everyone on the roster treated it like a drat house show (I'm guessing they didn't expect their payoffs to be too high). Half the card was cut off the telecast, including Piper-Flair. Bret-Skinner had no business going 15 minutes, especially with Bret's phoned-in performance. Macho/Jake was the hottest loving angle in professional wrestling, and they went out and killed most of their heat by having Savage squash Jake and then pin him clearly in less than 5 minutes (you can clearly hear the crowd boo after the match). Hogan/UT was an overbooked crock of poo poo with an afterthought of an ending, where Hogan won his 4th WWF Title with a SCHOOLBOY ROLL-UP, and then treated winning the title with all the enthusiasm of getting an after-dinner mint (not to mention killing a lot of the mystique of Taker and burying his title win).
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Endorph posted:Oh wait, WWE/ECW/WCW. Uh, those british exclusive pay-per-views WWE did in the late 90s? Capital Carnage. An absolutely awful PPV saved only by Vinny Jones shouting "IT'S GONNA BE EMOTIONAAAAL"
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VogeGandire posted:Capital Carnage. An absolutely awful PPV saved only by Vinny Jones shouting "IT'S GONNA BE EMOTIONAAAAL" Also Undertaker telling Paul bearer he really likes the PPV name.
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magnum_valentino posted:Also Undertaker telling Paul bearer he really likes the PPV name. Also, isn't that the PPV where 'Taker's gear got lost so he wrestles in a t-shirt and sweats? (e): Whoops, no, that was Mayhem in Manchester, which is another awful PPV.
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Flameingblack posted:Tamina has a job because of who her father is I wonder if she'll be quietly future-endeavored if Superfly goes to prison soon. WWE tends to distance itself from murderers.
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VogeGandire posted:Also, isn't that the PPV where 'Taker's gear got lost so he wrestles in a t-shirt and sweats? Which also has the distinction of being the only WWF PPV (from that era at least) not released on DVD. I've never seen it, as a result. edit: That's also the PPV with the on-screen "Triple HHH" graphic. Reminds me of Austin coming to the ring at WM15 in a t-shirt because he left his vest at home because his divorce had him all flustered. For content, do any wrestlers play drums? magnum_valentino fucked around with this message at 12:26 on Jan 30, 2014 |
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magnum_valentino posted:For content, do any wrestlers play drums? OX BAKER PLAYS THE DRUMS ON YER SKULL
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LvK posted:OX BAKER PLAYS THE DRUMS ON YER HEART
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magnum_valentino posted:
Heath Slater presumably would have when he was a one man band.
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sticklefifer posted:I wonder if she'll be quietly future-endeavored if Superfly goes to prison soon. WWE tends to distance itself from murderers. She's related to the Rock and he takes pictures with her on Twitter. I'm surprised she's not Divas champion.
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magnum_valentino posted:For content, do any wrestlers play drums? They did a video for Youtube visiting Kofi Kingston's man cave full of toys and replica swords and I believe he had a drum kit in there and played a bit. EDIT - Yep, at 2:30 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr3gCerkptY
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Angle played drums in college at least.
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Bearnt! posted:No, you're right. Moolah was 13 years and the Outlaws 14. Backlund was only 11 years but seemed much longer. Backlund came back to a very different company, though.
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Red posted:Backlund came back to a very different company, though. Yeah, there had been a ton of changes in terms of the product betweeen Backlund's two reigns. There was significant audience turnover between Backlund's two reigns, pretty much 100% roster turnover, the presentation (weekly TV, PPV, etc) had changed. With Backlund he held the belt in two different eras. The product hasn't changed as much from 2000-now as it did between Backlund's reigns. It also doesn't help that a lot of the major players from the NAO's last era are still around in prominent roles today.
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oldpainless posted:Angle played drums in college at least. Man, he would have been the best drummer, too.
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Perry Normal posted:They did a video for Youtube visiting Kofi Kingston's man cave full of toys and replica swords and I believe he had a drum kit in there and played a bit. Kofi seems like such a nice guy that I don't wanna say anything mean... but dawwwwwwwww!
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Endorph posted:As someone who just watched it: Nothing on the show was ungodly, but basically the show opens with a decent Hardyz/MNM match that goes about ten minutes too long, and then what follows is a string of god-awful matches. To add to this, they were supposed to have Sabu in the Chamber, but he got laid out backstage and replaced by Hardcore Holly. This was Sabu's fault, as he straight up didn't give a poo poo at this point, but replacing Sabu with Holly didn't win over any ECW fans.
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This is the show that got Heyman kicked off the booking team permanently. There is also a fifty-year long Matt Striker match where the main draw is Matt's face printed on his trunks. It was pretty clear that other than the end of the show, there was absolutely no plan for anything going into the show. I *think* the Sabu thing had to do with something backstage, either the marijuana bust or Sabu did something like forget his gear or whatever.
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magnum_valentino posted:Also Undertaker telling Paul bearer he really likes the PPV name. Wasnt it like the time that Jacqueline lost her top during the match making only 1 of 2 ever intentional booby bearings?
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Regarding this and the Mayhem in Manchester thing, how the hell do they not have extra pairs of spandex undies for PPV shows grossing millions of dollars? Next thing you know, the Jiu-Jitsu Jackoffs will rip off the WWE for a cool million by saying they forgot to tape their wrists and they'll be right back.
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I only remember that because good god, Jacqueline had the sort of boobs where I have no idea how she could walk without her back snapping.
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Was the ladder match at Armageddon (featuring exploding Joey Mercury face) the unannounced one or was it the MNM vs Hardys?
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I think it was announced the day of the show, they criminally under booked/promoted that show from memory
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Gavok posted:To add to this, they were supposed to have Sabu in the Chamber, but he got laid out backstage and replaced by Hardcore Holly. This was Sabu's fault, as he straight up didn't give a poo poo at this point, but replacing Sabu with Holly didn't win over any ECW fans. Especially since they had Tommy Dreamer and The Sandman on the WWECW roster at the time, but if they had to sub Sabu they went with Hardcore Holly because who knows. OneThousandMonkeys posted:This is the show that got Heyman kicked off the booking team permanently. There is also a fifty-year long Matt Striker match where the main draw is Matt's face printed on his trunks. It was pretty clear that other than the end of the show, there was absolutely no plan for anything going into the show. Heyman actually quit because the show was such a disaster and he couldn't work like this. He told Vince himself that the fans were going to throw this show back in their faces. Though he was already on thin-ice with Steph and Creative (because of his pathological lying which is so well-documented). Sabu's weed bust happened that summer (something like a week and a half after ONS 2006 which also lead to RVD jobbing the title). I can't recall what Sabu's punishment was or even if there was a punishment but December to Dismember 2006 was like six months later so I doubt he was taken out because of it. I think it was just a last-minute booking decision by Creative because that show had such slapdash booking everyone knew it was going to bomb.
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I'm not sure if I'm even allowed to say this and I'll eat the probation if it is against the rules, but the entire OTE99 PPV is on youtube and it's incredibly sad to watch. Like somebody else said; there's no matches worth while, and the WWE didn't air Owen falling or anything like that, so you're not going to get a better idea of how it happened or anything like that so it's probably not worth your time.
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Oh yeah, there are ways to watch Over the Edge 1999 via  if anyone here is so inclined. It's not a good show at all, the only thing of note is one of Undertaker's title wins happened at the show otherwise it's your typical mid-1999 overbooked Russo-fest.It will not be added to the Network not so much because of the infamy around it but rather they don't want to piss off the Hart family by releasing it publicly. I'm not just talking about Martha Hart (who still hasn't forgiven Vince) getting mad, Bret could flip a poo poo and we'd be back to 16 years ago. Raw is Owen could be added, it is a pretty sincere tribute, but we'll see when WWE streams all past RAW/SmackDown episodes like I really hope. Raw is Eddie will be added, Raw is Benoit will never see the light of loving day again because it's a tribute to a murderer before the facts were made clear.
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Raw is Owen probably will be added, since I think Bret went from thinking it was exploitative and damage control to seeing it s a nice tribute.
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Justin Godscock posted:Raw is Eddie will be added, Raw is Benoit will never see the light of loving day again because it's a tribute to a murderer before the facts were made clear. Also unlike Raw is Owen and Raw is Eddie, the Benoit tribute was entirely his DVD and some testimonials so there'd be no point anyway. Leaving it a blackout date is fitting. I'm more curious about ECW the following day, since it started with the Vince message.
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Manwithastick posted:Wasnt it like the time that Jacqueline lost her top during the match making only 1 of 2 ever intentional booby bearings? If you're thinking of this and Kat at Armageddon you forgot about May Young the following month at Royal Rumble 2000.
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magnum_valentino posted:If you're thinking of this and Kat at Armageddon you forgot about May Young the following month at Royal Rumble 2000.
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magnum_valentino posted:If you're thinking of this and Kat at Armageddon you forgot about May Young the following month at Royal Rumble 2000. gently caress you I'd forgotten about that. I mean seriously, I think that I should send you my therapy bills. Here's a question, after watching OSW Review with the Jake Roberts/Randy Savage angle where the cobra bites Randy (eventually), were there any complaints about it? It does seem to be something that shouldn't be on a kids wrestling show and I'm wondering if there was any fallout then or did parents groups only unleash their ire during the attitude era when a lot of it was just trash tv?
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Justin Godscock posted:Especially since they had Tommy Dreamer and The Sandman on the WWECW roster at the time, but if they had to sub Sabu they went with Hardcore Holly because who knows. I think I remember reading that they wanted another heel for Lashley to go through. The initial line up was heavily face (Lashley, RVD, Punk, Sabu vs. Test and Big Show).
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Poison Jam posted:gently caress you I'd forgotten about that. I mean seriously, I think that I should send you my therapy bills. I seem to remember the WWF not having as much of a hard time with parents groups in the 80s/90s as others. The Hulkster was a very parent-friendly role model for them to trot out, and those activist groups seemed much more interested in going after certain types of music, video games, and role playing games.
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I think the most graphic part of the snake bite was censored on most broadcasts. At least it was every time it was aired other than the original Superstars episode (which may have been censored in certain markets anyway). When I saw it, a friend of mine told me that it was "real" and the snake wasn't really supposed to bite Savage because you can hear McMahon on commentary saying "This was not supposed to happen!"
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Cromulent posted:I think the most graphic part of the snake bite was censored on most broadcasts. At least it was every time it was aired other than the original Superstars episode (which may have been censored in certain markets anyway). When I saw it, a friend of mine told me that it was "real" and the snake wasn't really supposed to bite Savage because you can hear McMahon on commentary saying "This was not supposed to happen!" They cut away from Earthquake squashing Damien too, and I don't remember any sort of backlash from that stunt.
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Halloween Jack posted:Regarding this and the Mayhem in Manchester thing, how the hell do they not have extra pairs of spandex undies for PPV shows grossing millions of dollars? Next thing you know, the Jiu-Jitsu Jackoffs will rip off the WWE for a cool million by saying they forgot to tape their wrists and they'll be right back. Watching Mayhem in Manchester and that PPV might be the most anachronistic PPV ever. It looks really low-budget (even for 1998) and the camera angles are all weird. It really doesn't look like the WWE at all.
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RoleModel posted:Watching Mayhem in Manchester and that PPV might be the most anachronistic PPV ever. It looks really low-budget (even for 1998) and the camera angles are all weird. It really doesn't look like the WWE at all. I seriously never got the point of those UK only shows. I mean, it didn't take long for us to realise nothing would ever happen on the shows, lest the US audience feel cheated, and the matches were rarely that special. Sometimes it even seemed deliberately half-assed, because you'd usually get the 'heel and manager in handicap match' gimmick. The only advantage to ordinary PPVs I can think of is the ability to have them at a normal time over here and still be live.
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