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beatlegs posted:Being an rear end in a top hat isn't necessary...just don't let your opponent walk all over you. When they interrupt you, interrupt them back and say "please let me finish my point" and finish your point! In that vid Bernie not only let her interrupt, he let her interruptions distract him from the points he was making. It's very important to make sure your argument comes across strong and clear - otherwise people will perceive you to be weak and disregard the substance of your argument. Short of a moderator cutting her mic nothing would have worked there. They both would have just gotten louder and louder while the closed captioning displayed "Both: Crosstalk" and then Wolf would have said "Wow, this was such a great discussion and you both bring good arguments to the table"
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ToxicSlurpee posted:This was too hilarious to not post. "I will take down that socialist Barak Obama and reclaim this nation.", he sighed as he drew his bastard sword.
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I put up a really lame State of the Union thread here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3605428 Just to keep this thread from turning into 100 pages of FOX News reactions and poo poo.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:This was too hilarious to not post. Swordline.com, for when the Rapture happens and the government starts taking all your guns. Make sure you have enough swords to survive it. Only $9995 for this defender of freedom. The value of swords can only increase as time goes on. Swordline.com
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happyhippy posted:Swordline.com, for when the Rapture happens and the government starts taking all your guns. And then, when Glenn Beck fights back against the evil UN New World Order that took away everyone's guns, Obama and the UN Secretary General just recite "Whatever happens, we have got the Maxim Gun and they have not."
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bobservo posted:I thought I've heard every right-wing talking point, but "President Obama's Economic War on Women" is a new one for me. After watching it I came back looking for an explanation of this very thing. You'd think an "Economic War on Women" would be SNAP cuts, or opposition to raising minimum wage, or repealing the ACA, or allowing employers to dictate women's health care choices, or defunding clinics that provide health services to poor women, or opposing the Equal Rights Amendment, or cutting out school breakfast programs...but those are all Republican policies...
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If Obama would only cut taxes for rich people, they could create jobs for women. If he's not doing that, then that clearly means he hates women.
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clockwork sundial posted:Got an email forward from a family member trying to spin it as persecution: At what point does this veritable tsunami of hyper-contrived bullshit become somehow medically fatal. This is loving historic. These are the nastiest people earth has ever shat out. When there's nothing less surprising than a conservative activist using his indictment to promote a movie via chain letter, where the hell have we wandered off to. happyhippy posted:Swordline.com, for when the Rapture happens and the government starts taking all your guns. gently caress it, they're not a political movement. They're a diet fad, a right-wing book club, a tupperware party disguised as a potluck, a carefully curated mailing list of discriminating buyers interested in only the lowest-quality investment vehicles. "Mail-order conservatism", as laid out by The Baffler, is the only way I can even begin to understand what's happening. agarjogger fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Jan 29, 2014 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:This was too hilarious to not post. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hfLZozBVpM
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Buy katanas before the BIG GOV bans them! It already happened in Japan!!!
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BiggerBoat posted:Rush is calling the SOTU address 'The State of the Coup". Har-dee-harr. He called Clinton's whole first term the Hostage Crisis, complete with "Day xxx".
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Mercury_Storm posted:Buy katanas before the BIG GOV bans them! It already happened in Japan!!! Imagine how unbearable the nerdy label lawyering would be in sword control threads.
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The Crotch posted:Glenn Beck is the newest demonstrator for Cold Steel Knives? Glenn Beck lives a warrior lifestyle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWT1-_S-aYw
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You know, I'm starting to think they don't even want to know the truth from their own people. A facebook page keeps posting about that lead smelter closing down being a back door to gun control, an I posted articles from bearingarms.com, breitbart, and the blaze explaining how it wasn't going to affect ammo in the US at all, so thy banned me.
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BiggerBoat posted:Rush is calling the SOTU address 'The State of the Coup". Har-dee-harr. I have often confused Bernie Sanders with Barney Frank. I've made a shameful mistake. But about Bachmann: I think I misjudged her as a moron, but she expertly concern trolled the poo poo out of Sanders. Her deflections, her responses. If I didn't know the issues, I'd say she owned Sanders and has the "she needs a job!" receipt to prove it.
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HootTheOwl posted:But about Bachmann: I think I misjudged her as a moron, but she expertly concern trolled the poo poo out of Sanders. What? Every time she got asked a direct question she ignored it and went on about "Oh but we have to help whats-her-name. She needs a job, she needs education, she needs to feed her kids, she needs to be able to send them to college. She needs help!!" It got loving annoying and if I didn't know the issues I'd assume she had no concrete plans to help this woman at all.
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VitalSigns posted:It got loving annoying and if I didn't know the issues I'd assume she had no concrete plans to help this woman at all. Of course I do know the issues, so I know she doesn't. 
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VitalSigns posted:What? Every time she got asked a direct question she ignored it and went on about "Oh but we have to help whats-her-name. She needs a job, she needs education, she needs to feed her kids, she needs to be able to send them to college. She needs help!!" I loved how she kept going on about how the piece subject needed help, but you just know that her version of help involves pulling all the social programs the woman relies on for assistance out from under her. 
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Darkman Fanpage posted:I loved how she kept going on about how the piece subject needed help, but you just know that her version of help involves pulling all the social programs the woman relies on for assistance out from under her. She doesn't want handouts! She wants the government to get out of the way so the energizing power of starvation will drive her to Create her own Job giving blowjobs behind the theater 
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Lycus posted:"No one can pretend that creating the position of First Citizen will solve all the country’s problems. Queen Elizabeth’s 60-year reign has seen public riots and political partisanship. Israel’s last president was forced to resign and later convicted of rape while in office. America’s president and congressmen will always be partisan figures, ruled by special interests, wasting our money and failing to meet our challenges." He's actually arguing for a second Civil War, but with the Traitor States fighting for an American Monarch instead of an English one.
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Good Citizen posted:Short of a moderator cutting her mic nothing would have worked there. They both would have just gotten louder and louder while the closed captioning displayed "Both: Crosstalk" and then Wolf would have said "Wow, this was such a great discussion and you both bring good arguments to the table" That's the worst part of the whole thing. There's no sense that Blitzer is doing anything to facilitate a clean discussion on the topic. I see this kind of thing all over the place, with talking heads just trying to talk over each other, and quite frankly I don't know why anyone hosting such a discussion would let that fly. Go ahead, cut the other person's mic until it's their turn. Maybe instate a talking stick. If they're gonna behave like bratty eight-year-olds, they should absolutely be treated as such. The way news networks enable these tools by idly standing by while they dominate a discussion with bully tactics is downright disgraceful. snorch fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Jan 30, 2014 |
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HootTheOwl posted:I have often confused Bernie Sanders with Barney Frank. I've made a shameful mistake.
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snorch posted:That's the worst part of the whole thing. There's no sense that Blitzer is doing anything to facilitate a clean discussion on the topic. I see this kind of thing all over the place, with talking heads just trying to talk over each other, and quite frankly I don't know why anyone hosting such a discussion would let that fly. Go ahead, cut the other person's mic until it's their turn. Maybe instate a talking stick. If they're gonna behave like bratty eight-year-olds, they should absolutely be treated as such. Wolf Blitzer is loving awful. Not in a "I don't like him way" but rather in a "he's just straight up terrible how did he get this job?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sfo32rlkiE
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snorch posted:That's the worst part of the whole thing. There's no sense that Blitzer is doing anything to facilitate a clean discussion on the topic. I see this kind of thing all over the place, with talking heads just trying to talk over each other, and quite frankly I don't know why anyone hosting such a discussion would let that fly. Go ahead, cut the other person's mic until it's their turn. Maybe instate a talking stick. If they're gonna behave like bratty eight-year-olds, they should absolutely be treated as such. I don't think they can even be facilitated properly. If they did do something like cut the mic and demand staying on topic, they'd be on Fox News the next morning decrying how the liberal media won't let them speak the truth that America needs to know!
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Phone posted:Wolf Blitzer is loving awful. Not in a "I don't like him way" but rather in a "he's just straight up terrible how did he get this job?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2ySV7AfgM He's a genuine moron.
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Iron Crowned posted:I don't think they can even be facilitated properly. If they did do something like cut the mic and demand staying on topic, they'd be on Fox News the next morning decrying how the liberal media won't let them speak the truth that America needs to know! So loving let them. Showing some integrity in the face of bullshit would do CNN a lot of good right about now, and instead they're off on the sidelines picking their noses while Bachmann gets overterritorial on their airtime. snorch fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jan 30, 2014 |
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snorch posted:That's the worst part of the whole thing. There's no sense that Blitzer is doing anything to facilitate a clean discussion on the topic. I see this kind of thing all over the place, with talking heads just trying to talk over each other, and quite frankly I don't know why anyone hosting such a discussion would let that fly. Go ahead, cut the other person's mic until it's their turn. Maybe instate a talking stick. If they're gonna behave like bratty eight-year-olds, they should absolutely be treated as such. If they did that they'd never get another Republican on their show.
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snorch posted:So loving let them. Showing some integrity in the face of bullshit would do CNN a lot of good right about now, and instead they're off on the sidelines picking their noses while Bachmann gets overterritorial on their airtime. Yeah at this point everyone that doesn't get their talking points straight from the GOP is the liberal media so you might as well try and show some sort of actual fairness since the idiots that saturate themselves in Fox News and crew are lost anyway. The fear of getting labeled is so dumb since they are going to do it regardless. Piell posted:If they did that they'd never get another Republican on their show. I think this is kind of the media equivalent to the argument that if you tax millionaires higher they are going to flee from places like New York and go galt in low tax poo poo holes when that clearly isn't the case. If media outlets start treating GOP like the children they are and make them engage in debates as adults or call them on outrageous lies and they all refuse to go on CNN, MSNBC, etc they aren't going to get their message out to people that aren't in the right wing media bubble and they need to have some out of base presence. You'd lose the real hacks that call for idiotic poo poo and have no factual basis to their arguments whatsoever but that can only help the overall discussion. The "well one person had an opinion based on studies and facts while the other was shrieking about death panels; I guess the truth is in the middle both made good points" thing is incredibly damaging. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jan 30, 2014 |
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Piell posted:If they did that they'd never get another Republican on their show. Yeah, that'd be great.
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Buckley's Neo-Confederate shitrag National Review might be in a fight for its life, after a defamation lawsuit, which they have handled in the most National Review way possible.quote:Climate scientist Michael Mann is suing National Review and Mark Steyn, one of its leading writers, for defamation. It's a charge that's notoriously hard to prove, which is no doubt why the magazine initially refused to apologize for an item on its blog in which Steyn accused Mann of fraud. Steyn also quoted a line by another conservative writer (Rand Simberg) that called Mann "the Jerry Sandusky of climate science, except that instead of molesting children, he has molested and tortured data." (Simberg and the free market think tank for which he works, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, are also named in the suit.)
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ufarn posted:Buckley's Neo-Confederate shitrag National Review might be in a fight for its life, after a defamation lawsuit, which they have handled in the most National Review way possible. Some rich rear end in a top hat will bail them out for White Jesus points and a chance to write a rambling essay about how poor blacks got it coming once a month.
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ufarn posted:Buckley's Neo-Confederate shitrag National Review might be in a fight for its life, after a defamation lawsuit, which they have handled in the most National Review way possible. Looks like the free market is going to decide. 
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Choice quote from that Politico article: "Now, though, the invective is endless and entire groups are labeled. Democrats accused citizens attending Tea Party rallies of being racists, without a shred of evidence." 
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Herman Cain is being inundated with callers bitching about Obama's plan for a wage increase. I assume this is across the board with all the other shows too. It's really baffling to hear so many people calling up to defend their right to work for poo poo pay. What am I missing here?
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BiggerBoat posted:Herman Cain is being inundated with callers bitching about Obama's plan for a wage increase. I assume this is across the board with all the other shows too. It's really baffling to hear so many people calling up to defend their right to work for poo poo pay. WE MUST NOT UPSET THE JOB CREATORS! THEIR WRATH WILL SURELY LAY UPON OUR HEADS!
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It's a really sad fact but tons of people think that those who do low-level jobs like retail deserve to be paid a low wage as punishment for their lack of success. I think it has something to do with our society's unhealthy view that your salary is essentially your self-worth. If the guy flipping your burgers isn't making a pittance compared to you how are you going to feel superior to them?
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BiggerBoat posted:Herman Cain is being inundated with callers bitching about Obama's plan for a wage increase. I assume this is across the board with all the other shows too. It's really baffling to hear so many people calling up to defend their right to work for poo poo pay. Dan Ariely did a study on this once, but I can't remember the name. I think it was around the time he studied American income distribution spread across quintiles.
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Remember, if we stop making it as awful as possible to be poor, those poors won't have any incentive to try to become not poor! We must punish the lowest among us for their lack of success, to teach them to feel bad about being poor. And we should start as early as possible.quote:Up to 40 kids at Uintah Elementary in Salt Lake City picked up their lunches Tuesday, then watched as the meals were taken and thrown away because of outstanding balances on their accounts — a move that shocked and angered parents.
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