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Mister Roboto posted:Well, let's just be honest, art is probably slightly more important. Yes, it shouldn't be that way, but we all know of books that have terrible writing but good art and survive on that alone, whereas there's not as many that do the opposite. I was just pointing out that it was the 90s and the fact that the artist were treated more important than the writers caused huge problems in the big two.
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Mister Roboto posted:Well, let's just be honest, art is probably slightly more important. Yes, it shouldn't be that way, but we all know of books that have terrible writing but good art and survive on that alone, whereas there's not as many that do the opposite. I'd say it's currently the opposite where writers are treated as the creative lead on a book while artists are interchangeable if they are even referenced in promotion material.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 15:26 |
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I think part of it is is the "Superstar syndrome" where writers seem to facefault as soon as they become big names. Maybe it's that editors stop reigning in their worst successes, maybe it's that they're put on (or get the swagger to choose) big-name projects they aren't suited for, maybe they buy into their own hype, or maybe the assistant editors start poisoning their coffee with hallucinogens. Whatever the case, very few writers seem to make to the top and come out intact.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 15:34 |
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Halloween Jack posted:Um, if Bendis has collapsed creatively I'd attribute it to being in charge of a bunch of franchise books. Good writing is not the highest priority on a book like X-Men or a crossover book and you aren't going to have the creative freedom that you would with Daredevil or Spider-Man. Also Scarlet and Powers are still really good when they come out.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 15:35 |
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I'm going to be traveling a little this year. Can anyone recommend good comic shops in Columbus, Ohio and Knoxville, Tennessee? For me, "good" includes large selections of back issues, TPBs (especially discounted ones), and loose action figures, but beggars can't be choosers.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 04:51 |
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Unfortunately the time I lived in Columbus and the time I had money for comics are not two things that intersected.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I picked up Goldfish during a holiday sale, and it helped reminded me of why Bendis was a big deal once. It's really groundbreaking and thoughtfully done, and... well... when was the last time he did something you'd call "groundbreaking?" Ultimate Spider-Man, maybe? It's just kind of a bummer to think of all the promise a writer showed early on and look at their output now, all too often. New Avengers volume 1 was pretty drat amazing when it came out, even if in retrospect it seems a little fan-servicey (Let's put Spider-Man and Wolverine on the Avengers). I do love him for putting Luke Cage on the Avengers as well, and let's be honest, the only reason most of us know who Luke Cage is (outside of "Give me my money, honey"), is because of Bendis.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 05:03 |
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Skwirl posted:let's be honest, the only reason most of us know who Luke Cage is (outside of "Give me my money, honey"), is because of Bendis. Years ago, my local Wal-Mart was selling boxes of miscellaneous comics. In that pack I got an issue one of Luke Cage when he wore a leather jacket over a red shirt and fought a Jamaican/Caribbean ninja who had diamond-tipped fingernails on one of his hands. That pack also came with Spider-man 2099 # 1 and I'm so bummed I can't find that anymore because the cover was so shiny.
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Skwirl posted:New Avengers volume 1 was pretty drat amazing when it came out, even if in retrospect it seems a little fan-servicey (Let's put Spider-Man and Wolverine on the Avengers). I do love him for putting Luke Cage on the Avengers as well, and let's be honest, the only reason most of us know who Luke Cage is (outside of "Give me my money, honey"), is because of Bendis. Yeah, I'd have to reread it to really pass judgement, but that and Ultimates really turned the Avengers into something other than continuity flogging with b-listers.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:Yeah, I'd have to reread it to really pass judgement, but that and Ultimates really turned the Avengers into something other than continuity flogging with b-listers. With the exception of Roger Stern's badass "Under Siege" storyline from the mid-'80s, I never gave a poo poo about the Avengers until Bendis' New Avengers. Most of that first series was fun as hell, with lots of street-level superheroics, comic relief, and the team being outmatched, outgunned, and on the run half the time. Honestly, it reminded me of JLI in all the best ways, and that's why I'll always argue that it was worthwhile (even during the unpopular Secret Invasion and Siege). But after Siege, when Bendis started writing Avengers and New Avengers Vol. 2, it was never the same again.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I picked up Goldfish during a holiday sale, and it helped reminded me of why Bendis was a big deal once. It's really groundbreaking and thoughtfully done, and... well... when was the last time he did something you'd call "groundbreaking?" Ultimate Spider-Man, maybe? It's just kind of a bummer to think of all the promise a writer showed early on and look at their output now, all too often. e: Sorry, this point has already been made.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I'm going to be traveling a little this year. Can anyone recommend good comic shops in Columbus, Ohio and Knoxville, Tennessee? For me, "good" includes large selections of back issues, TPBs (especially discounted ones), and loose action figures, but beggars can't be choosers. redbackground fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jan 28, 2014 |
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I'm going to be traveling a little this year. Can anyone recommend good comic shops in Columbus, Ohio and Knoxville, Tennessee? For me, "good" includes large selections of back issues, TPBs (especially discounted ones), and loose action figures, but beggars can't be choosers. I don't know where you are traveling from but if you are coming anywhere near Fort Wayne, IN you should stop by. We have DCBS which has just about every trade that's in print discounted at ~35%, Rhyno's store Clemm's Collectibles, and Books Comics & Things which has a pretty decent back catalog.
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redbackground posted:Hey, I'm in Knoxville--you have 2 options: Comics Exchange on Chapman Highway (lotsa back issues, large selection of trades, and packaged figures, and the workers are nice) and McKay Books on Papermill, a beloved gigantic used book/movie/music warehouse that has a whole wall of discounted trades and cheap cheap cheap back issues, but it depends of course on what people have brought in to get rid of. When are you going to be in the area? Hey! I should be there for a work conference the first weekend in April. E-mail me at saxman2 at hotmail!
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irlZaphod posted:As much as I criticise it, what he did with Avengers was pretty amazing. It's not groundbreaking in the sense that it wasn't anything particularly new, but it was really fresh (for a time, at least), and really generated interest in what was an incredibly flagging series for years (I suppose arguably the Busiek/Perez run did the same thing, although to be honest I flipped through the first issue of that a while ago and it didn't really grab me). Bendis Avengers was the first time I ever felt like I "needed" to read the book.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 22:04 |
My Planetary omnibus just arrived today when Amazon had previously told me it wouldn't be here until Thursday. WOOOOO!
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Senor Candle posted:I don't know where you are traveling from but if you are coming anywhere near Fort Wayne, IN you should stop by. We have DCBS which has just about every trade that's in print discounted at ~35%, Rhyno's store Clemm's Collectibles, and Books Comics & Things which has a pretty decent back catalog. As much as I totally would, I'll be flying to both places from Florida on separate trips. Thank you very much, though!
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# ? Jan 29, 2014 06:09 |
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Senor Candle posted:I don't know where you are traveling from but if you are coming anywhere near Fort Wayne, IN you should stop by. We have DCBS which has just about every trade that's in print discounted at ~35%, Rhyno's store Clemm's Collectibles, and Books Comics & Things which has a pretty decent back catalog. Woooooooo. BCTs staff are a bunch of cocks!
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# ? Jan 29, 2014 06:36 |
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Apparently Thwipster is coming back as...something. Sign up and get in line to have a Thwipster account and do a thing! http://signup.thwipster.com
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# ? Jan 29, 2014 17:33 |
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Soonmot posted:My Planetary omnibus just arrived today when Amazon had previously told me it wouldn't be here until Thursday. WOOOOO! Dang. I have the whole run that I was gonna get bound but that book looked cooler than anything I could have put together and 50% off at IST makes it a just a tad more than sending it off to H&R. Maybe I can unload the floppies in the Uncollected forums. Speaking of Amazon, I rarely get my comics there unless it is from a secondary seller. Their packaging is atrocious and they rarely offer a good discount anymore. Also the fact that they get their books a few weeks later is a slight deterent. My comic purchases from them have dropped by at least 70% or more.
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# ? Jan 30, 2014 00:30 |
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I was just flipping through previews and I thought this was important.
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# ? Jan 30, 2014 00:52 |
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Senor Candle posted:
It is the most important thing
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# ? Jan 30, 2014 01:00 |
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drat it, I saw that last night and forgot to post it.
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# ? Jan 30, 2014 01:03 |
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Toys are so freakin' awesome these days.
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# ? Jan 30, 2014 01:36 |
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Amazing Spiderman 2 looks like a complete hilarious mess and I'm going to be there first night.
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Senor Candle posted:
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# ? Jan 30, 2014 03:14 |
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The hat on mine is getting repainted yellow.
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# ? Jan 30, 2014 07:28 |
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It's been about a month since I last did a comic book writers quiz. I've recently done another one which is probably a less obvious choice; WildC.A.T.S. writers. I've also been trying to do something about the Legion of Super-Heroes one I've had sitting unaltered for months. Hopefully I'll find the time to finish it sooner or later.
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I just bumped into an ancient Comics Journal interview with Todd McFarlane. Comics Journal interviews are often amazing because of how aggressive Gary Groth can be, but- McFarlane just comes across as dense.Todd McFarlane posted:I don’t know what you want me to read. I mean, if it’s technical stuff, you’re going to have a tough time, because unless it’s got pictures … I can’t read black and white, other than the box scores. I just don’t have that mentality. I’ve got to have pictures in front of me. I don’t read comics! I don’t read nothing really. I read the sports page … and then The Comics Journal — I’m going to give you a plug. Actually, that’s black and white. I do read that and whatever else. It’s not like I don’t have somewhat of a mild vocabulary out there.
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Alien Rope Burn posted:I just bumped into an ancient Comics Journal interview with Todd McFarlane. Comics Journal interviews are often amazing because of how aggressive Gary Groth can be, but- McFarlane just comes across as dense. It makes sense though when you remember that Macfarlane was coming from "I'm rich as gently caress for turning out garbage, why should I actually try?" Dude was in it for the bucks, period.
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# ? Jan 30, 2014 15:45 |
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As much as Liefeld gets slagged off I get the impression that he genuinely loves comics. I don't get the same impression from McFarlane.
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# ? Jan 30, 2014 16:01 |
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I respect that a lot more than editors stop just short of saying "I'm going to take a dump on your favourite comics for no good reason, and you're still going to buy them because you're a bunch of pathetic marks." I also think that after spending all those years "picking the cotton" McFarlane doesn't want to be told that he should be beholden to anyone or anything as long as people are buying what he produces. I can understand it. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jan 30, 2014 |
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Since I know I've seen people mention it around in BSS I've finally started reading through the latest series of TMNT based on seeing some Ross Campbell art for this weeks issue and that is a pretty drat fun book about mutant ninja turtles.
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# ? Jan 30, 2014 21:06 |
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Seeing as all I really know is Marvel and DC and the people who/write draw for them, I am looking to expand my horizons a little bit. I have been reading some Image titles Saga, Sex Criminals, Lazarous, Prophet) but that is mostly because I know of the people writing/drawing those comics. I fear though that there might be a whole range of good stuff out there that I don't know about so can some people throw me some recommendations from other authors/artists/titles outside the big 2 please?
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Madkal posted:Seeing as all I really know is Marvel and DC and the people who/write draw for them, I am looking to expand my horizons a little bit. I have been reading some Image titles Saga, Sex Criminals, Lazarous, Prophet) but that is mostly because I know of the people writing/drawing those comics. I fear though that there might be a whole range of good stuff out there that I don't know about so can some people throw me some recommendations from other authors/artists/titles outside the big 2 please? Madman, The Atomics, Hellboy, BPRD
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Waterhaul posted:Since I know I've seen people mention it around in BSS I've finally started reading through the latest series of TMNT based on seeing some Ross Campbell art for this weeks issue and that is a pretty drat fun book about mutant ninja turtles. I've been a fan of Ross Campbell since I discovered Wet Moon.
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Madkal posted:Seeing as all I really know is Marvel and DC and the people who/write draw for them, I am looking to expand my horizons a little bit. I have been reading some Image titles Saga, Sex Criminals, Lazarous, Prophet) but that is mostly because I know of the people writing/drawing those comics. I fear though that there might be a whole range of good stuff out there that I don't know about so can some people throw me some recommendations from other authors/artists/titles outside the big 2 please? Orc Stain. Read Orc Stain. No, seriously. Do it. Read Orc Stain.
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Hakkesshu posted:Orc Stain. Everybody do this. EVERYBODY Halloween Jack posted:Wait, what, they actually hired him based on the TMNT fanart that's been on his DeviantArt page? I think so? He's done some one shots and contributed to various issues and he's really good at drawing turtles.
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# ? Jan 30, 2014 21:30 |
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I have a TMNT mega thread half put together but I don't know if there's enough people actually reading the book to warrant a whole thread.
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I think there was one ages ago. Plus there's a new TMNT film coming out. People need to know there's a fun book to read!
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