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Boonys Cut Shot
Nov 5, 2004

Elite athlete

TG-Chrono posted:

Yep! 9:30-10am Monday. Great Northern in Carlton.
Awesome, I'll be there with a mate of mine that's a big Seahawks fan

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Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
WE CAN'T PUT NAMES ON JUMPERS BECAUSE AMERICA :qq:

davmo1
Jan 2, 2014
J4G Crybaby :frogout:
Dammit, if they put names on them I'm going to have to buy a new jersey >.<

pkid
Jan 30, 2005

I was raised on the dairy, BITCH!
We don't need names on jumpers. We have numbers. Don't see why we need both.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

pkid posted:

We don't need numbers on jumpers. We'll have names. Don't see why we need both.

baked
Apr 1, 2005

i took a little nap where the roots all twist; squished a rotten peach in my fist.

TG-Chrono posted:

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Joined as Hot Dog. I think I was runner-up last year with my team Balls Deep & won the minor league the year before. Hoping to improve again this year and win it all!

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe

Because big numbers can be seen from a distance, making it easy to pick who the player is, but little lovely letters can't? Giansiracusa. Schoenmakers. Polkinghorne. Roberts-Thompson. It is going to look silly just like the long names in other sports look silly. Adds nothing, looks stupid.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

realbez posted:

Because big numbers can be seen from a distance, making it easy to pick who the player is, but little lovely letters can't? Giansiracusa. Schoenmakers. Polkinghorne. Roberts-Thompson. It is going to look silly just like the long names in other sports look silly. Adds nothing, looks stupid.

So your response to casual fans who go to a game and want to know who is who is you should have spent hours studying the prospectus to learn everyones number by rote?

The fact that you are claiming it adds nothing proves that you are being a deliberate fuckwit about it rather than attempting to engage in any sort of discussion.

It is a great thing for casual fans(or people who can't be hosed learning the opposition teams numbers) and having numbers + names doesn't affect anyone other than people whining about the americanization of sport :qq::qq::qq:

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.
If the name goes under the number there'll be room for it.

tnimark
Dec 22, 2009
Everybody always brings up the long name thing. There aren't THAT many players with crazy long names. Yes, those few players will have a smaller typeface that will be a little harder to read, but 95% of players will be fine. It's not a big deal.

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe

Gough Suppressant posted:

The fact that you are claiming it adds nothing proves that you are being a deliberate fuckwit about it rather than attempting to engage in any sort of discussion.

Jesus Christ the people you know must have to exercise incredible patience not to smack you sometimes. Your inability to have a normal discussion is sometimes astounding. We are discussing a matter of opinion, not climate change.

I don't think casual fans suffer much from having to listen to the commentary to pick who a player is. Or if they are at the game they can look up on their phone or the record who a number corresponds too. Or maybe *shock scary social interaction* leaning over to the guy next to them at the game, who is probably their mate who dragged them there in the first place, and ask them who that is. You won't be able to read the names at the game anyway, so really it is only an issue on the TV where Bruce is happily telling you their names over and over again.

And it doesn't take hours of studying the loving prospectus to learn that number 5 for Hawthorn is Luke Hodge, but sure you can exaggerate to that degree if you want.

edit: also nobody is saying it is a big deal. The tendency on the internet is to assume that anyone expressing an opposing opinion thinks it is a HUGE loving DEAL AND NEEDS TO BE SHOUTED DOWN. But really most people probably don't care and just think it will look silly. "It is not a big deal" is not a valid argument for the change.

realbez fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Jan 31, 2014

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
Also even with names that aren't completely legible at a distance, you should be able to make out enough of them to recognize who it is anyway.

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe
If you can recognise who it is anyway, you know who it is anyway :confused:

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

realbez posted:

Jesus Christ the people you know must have to exercise incredible patience not to smack you sometimes. You're inability to have a normal discussion is sometimes astounding. We are discussing a matter of opinion, not climate change.

I don't think casual fans suffer much from having to listen to the commentary to pick who a player is. Or if they are at the game they can look up on their phone or the record who a number corresponds too. Or maybe *shock scary social interaction* leaning over to the guy next to them at the game, who is probably their mate who dragged them there in the first place, and ask them who that is. You won't be able to read the names at the game anyway, so really it is only an issue on the TV where Bruce is happily telling you their names over and over again.
And it doesn't take hours of studying the loving prospectus to learn that number 5 for Hawthorn is Luke Hodge, but sure you can exaggerate to that degree if you want.

My bad, didn't realise Luke Hodge was the only player for Hawthorn. Don't know why they even bother with numbers if there's only one player a side, pretty superfluous.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

realbez posted:

If you can recognise who it is anyway, you know who it is anyway :confused:

make out enough of the name. You can make out a shape of a word and go "oh, that's that guy with the long rear end name with too many G's in it" or whatever even if you can't read the whole thing letter for letter.

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe
Yeah that sure showed me

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe
This is stupid, all I said was it will look dumb. And it loving will. oval office.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

realbez posted:

Yeah that sure showed me

You say you don't need any sort of effort to know what number people are, and to back it up you use as an example the current reigning premiership captain.

Drugs
Jul 16, 2010

I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein
Mad About Football Jumpers

Stumbletron
Jan 3, 2006
Anti-Stumble unit is fail!
My real issue is that it gets kids invested in players as much as teams, at a time when players are as mobile (contractually) as they've ever been.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

realbez posted:

This is stupid, all I said was it will look dumb. And it loving will. oval office.

:allears:

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe
I know you like to deliberately not read the rest of posts and focus on one example sentence. It also doesn't take much effort to learn that 35 for Melbourne is Tapscott, or that 33 for West Coast is Hill. If you even give a poo poo, which you probably wouldn't unless they were a superstar or part of the team you are supporting.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.
Sponsors logos on the back are worse and yet here we are.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

realbez posted:

I know you like to deliberately not read the rest of posts and focus on one example sentence. It also doesn't take much effort to learn that 35 for Melbourne is Tapscott, or that 33 for West Coast is Hill. If you even give a poo poo, which you probably wouldn't unless they were a superstar or part of the team you are supporting.

I apologise for responding to the words you wrote instead of the words you didn't write.

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.
If you showed me 10 random players from teams that are not the Giants or Carlton (from a mid range angle), I feel I'd be hard pressed to name more than half. And doubly so for first or second year players. I think it is a chance for that mid tier player to be recognised more.

I reckon that for non aligned fans and newcomers, names on guernseys are a good way to get people attached to players. People naturally associate with names more readily than numbers. Also, if the AFL has aspirations of expanding its global audience, it will have to accept some measure of accepted global sporting standard such as names on backs. I know it feels like some kind of cultural betrayal, like the last game at Princes Park, but ultimately I'm for it.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

realbez posted:

I know you like to deliberately not read the rest of posts and focus on one example sentence. It also doesn't take much effort to learn that 35 for Melbourne is Tapscott, or that 33 for West Coast is Hill. If you even give a poo poo, which you probably wouldn't unless they were a superstar or part of the team you are supporting.

Or we could just have names on the jumpers and save having everybody try to memorize the numbers of 800 or so players, or miss play because they are too busy looking through their footy record to see who just did something.

Stumbletron
Jan 3, 2006
Anti-Stumble unit is fail!
I just realised there's going to be a guy running around on TV this year with "SIDEBOTTOM" written on his shirt and now I'm ok with it

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.
Honestly, ask American sports fans about the feelings they have about sponsors logos on uniforms and they'll wonder why we NASCARify the gently caress out of ours. (The NRL ones are the worst for that but still.)

This is despite American sports being commercialised to an even greater degree.

Names on jumpers are small beer, to be quite honest.

thepokey
Jul 20, 2004

Let me start off with a basket of chips. Then move on to the pollo asado taco.
I can understand people not giving a poo poo about names on the back, but to actively oppose it, I don't get it. It breaks from tradition; so what? It's not like Aussie Rules' defining feature is not having player names. Sometimes it's good to break from tradition when tradition is antiquated. Kind of like I hope we break from tradition and broadcast FTA full HD some time. I know America does that too, so I hope people don't have a big problem with it! Yeah I can whip out my phone and check a player's number that I don't know, but maybe I'm sitting on lvl 1 and a player runs by and I can clearly see the name printed too, which saves me fishing my phone out and missing something. It's not that big a deal.
Agreed with Gough too, yes I know who Luke Hodge is, but I'm sure there are half a dozen fringe Hawthorn players I'd not instantly recognise.

Drugs
Jul 16, 2010

I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein
Goldsack

snaeksikn
Feb 28, 2010

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i got real big opinions re: players wearing boots that dont match the colours of their jumpers and i will take anyone on to the death about it

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
Fluro green boots go nicely with the bile Melbourne serve up on the field though

tnimark
Dec 22, 2009

Oh poo poo, I've got guernseys to buy. Could have been even more if it weren't for Brad Dick's shoulder.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

gay picnic defence posted:

Fluro green boots go nicely with the bile Melbourne serve up on the field though

I would have gone a nice yellow streak down the back personally.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
'Fantasia' would be pretty boss, I hope he turns out to be good.

The Deadly Hume
May 26, 2004

Let's get a little crazy. Let's have some fun.
My main concern is that they use a font that doesn't suck. If it's Impact or Machine I won't be too happy.

snaeksikn
Feb 28, 2010

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gay picnic defence posted:

Fluro green boots go nicely with the bile Melbourne serve up on the field though

jesus christ youre a oval office you know nothing about football augh these people in this thread i cant stand it!!

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

The Deadly Hume posted:

My main concern is that they use a font that doesn't suck. If it's Impact or Machine I won't be too happy.

Maybe if it's Windings a few of the opponents of it will be a bit happier.

snaeksikn posted:

jesus christ youre a oval office you know nothing about football augh these people in this thread i cant stand it!!

rude

snaeksikn
Feb 28, 2010

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although black boots tend to annoy me despite being a neutral colour, they always make the players look like they have tiny little feet

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snaeksikn
Feb 28, 2010

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The Deadly Hume posted:

My main concern is that they use a font that doesn't suck. If it's Impact or Machine I won't be too happy.

comic sans would be p awesome

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