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Choco1980 posted:As much as I agree with you about monsters being inhuman and unreachable, the funny thing about the Thing is how you're not really correct about it. Rob Bottin's storyboarded pitch that got him the job on the movie was to talk Carpenter through the heart attack scene (complete with head crab) from the perspective of the Thing, with it's thoughts and motivations. Basically the Thing's sole motivation is to survive. It seems to also absorb all the thoughts and biology of its host. When Thing-Norris started having a heart attack, the main motivation was "Great! Now I can play dead, and everyone will leave me alone!". It's difficult to conceptualize however because as shown, with this creature even a single cell is autonomous from the rest, and upon separation has its own thought process. Yea part of what makes The Thing so re-watchable is observing the behavior of the Thing and trying to figure out what its motivation is for doing what its doing in a given scene. You can't get any of that on first viewing because you're so busy trying to figure out who's a Thing.
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Grand Piano came out on itunes today. Any good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEoM7bM7KVw
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Harminoff posted:Grand Piano came out on itunes today. Any good? Phonebooth II: The Concerto, looks good.
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Harminoff posted:Grand Piano came out on itunes today. Any good? Holy poo poo that looks amazing.
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After you guys were talking about it, I finally watched Return of the Living Dead. Holy poo poo, I hate myself for not watching this sooner! It was so well paced, great shots, great effects. I can totally see why people hate the sequel. I watched it first a long time ago, and thought it was alright, but the original blows it away.
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The Senator Giroux posted:After you guys were talking about it, I finally watched Return of the Living Dead. It is a well constructed film, I'll its borderline film as opposed to movie. Very efficient. edit: You can probably find sites that have deconstructed it frame by frame.
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Harminoff posted:Grand Piano came out on itunes today. Any good? Am I seeing Wood's real hands moving in some of those shots? Today on Showtime I finally saw Phantoms(1998). It was pretty decent, especially for a late 90's horror. I wonder why nobody ever saw that, to the point of being a running gag in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Maybe because it was a monster movie and the trend had already skewed towards masked slashers? Maybe because no one seems willing to say it's a monster movie? It's a monster movie. I really enjoyed how the plot kept you guessing for some time. It ended rather abruptly, but that's alright. Also, I really dug the Nigel Neal style story once we had an idea of what was going on.
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Choco1980 posted:Am I seeing Wood's real hands moving in some of those shots? Yes. quote:“That was me,” Wood confirmed at “Grand Piano’s” press conference, explaining that the fleet fingers flying across the ivories were nearly always his own.
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Choco1980 posted:Today on Showtime I finally saw Phantoms(1998). It was pretty decent, especially for a late 90's horror. I wonder why nobody ever saw that, to the point of being a running gag in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Maybe because it was a monster movie and the trend had already skewed towards masked slashers? Maybe because no one seems willing to say it's a monster movie? It's a monster movie. I really enjoyed how the plot kept you guessing for some time. It ended rather abruptly, but that's alright. Also, I really dug the Nigel Neal style story once we had an idea of what was going on. The lack of popularity is probably because it's an adaptation of a Dean Koontz novel. He's the sort of 'novel a month by horror mad lib, cheap knockoff Stephen King' that nobody really likes unless they're stuck in an airport.
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a foolish pianist posted:The lack of popularity is probably because it's an adaptation of a Dean Koontz novel. He's the sort of 'novel a month by horror mad lib, cheap knockoff Stephen King' that nobody really likes unless they're stuck in an airport. Every Koontz novel sells a billion copies. Their poo poo, but I wouldn't say nobody likes them.
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Novel a month by horror mad lib is actually a pretty good way to describe Stephen King as well.
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Are the Phantasm movies any good? I remember the commercials for those on TV when they actually had their theater run when I was a kid (I am old). They looked cheesy but potentially scary. edit: ah crap, I missed out on Burnt Offerings before it was taken off Netflix streaming.
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Volume posted:Novel a month by horror mad lib is actually a pretty good way to describe Stephen King as well. Stephen King was tight as hell in his earlier years. Don't judge him by the later half of his career.
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Zwabu posted:Are the Phantasm movies any good? I remember the commercials for those on TV when they actually had their theater run when I was a kid (I am old). They looked cheesy but potentially scary. Watched Phantasm II back when I was...jeez, I dunno, nine or so? Even back then, I wouldn't say it was scary so much as creepy and gross? But incredibly cheesy and over-the-top, too. Nine-year-old me loved it, but I don't know how I'd feel about it now. Also: Zwabu posted:Stephen King was
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The Phantasm movies are great. They're simultaneously strange and dreamlike and wacky cornball, while being one of the most original horror series I can think of. What creator Don Coscarelli does to end the fourth movie (and the series) is remarkably ballsy from an editing standpoint.
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Choco1980 posted:The Phantasm movies are great. They're simultaneously strange and dreamlike and wacky cornball, while being one of the most original horror series I can think of. What creator Don Coscarelli does to end the fourth movie (and the series) is remarkably ballsy from an editing standpoint. Agree 100%. As odd and cheap and low budget and lead actor replacing for one installment as they are, they're still some of my favorite horror flicks. I dread the day a remake is greenlit.
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Phantasm II is my favorite. The death-balls really shine in that one, the scene wear it tears through the one guys whole body is one of my favorite horror bits. I can also, honestly say, that I like the Tall Man as much as like Pinhead. Tall man doesn't even need to attack you, he just stares at you and you instantly understand that he can't be hosed with.
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I watched the Phantasm movies over the summer.... 1st one, good movie if you like the characters. 2nd one, almost a direct continuation of the story. Very slow but provides some resolution. 3rd one, bad. Not worse than most movies from that time but it gets weird and you just have to like the series to watch it. 4th one, weird. All weird. What is the series about any more? You realize you have invested so much time into these characters and the same ideas are recycled since the 1st movie. Talking about the series is far more fun than watching it. Watch the first one and walk away IMO.
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temple posted:I watched the Phantasm movies over the summer.... The same thing it always has been. But not necessarily what you think it is. I could talk for length about it, but it'd be spoiler-filled. Short answer: Mike's having a series of nightmares as he deals with the grief of losing his brother so soon after his parents. The very end of part 4 where they show him back as a kid again is him waking up and moving on finally after such an elaborate fantasy world.
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Hey, Stephen King put out Joyland all of a few months ago, and that wasn't bad at all. Not really horror, but eh.
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epoch. posted:Have your protagonist autistic child watching Sesame Street in broad daylight while his mother cleans up his scattered pasta from the kitchen floor and Elmo breaks in mid-sentence of his song, and the background musical number is drowned out by static and the other muppets continue their dance, oblivious, and Elmo looks directly at the child, and tells the child he will eat his soul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtsdoVPpxSM
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Phantasm II might be one of my favorite horror films just for the balls to make it a road film.
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Phantasm might be one of my favorite horror films just for the balls.
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schwenz posted:Phantasm II is my favorite. The death-balls really shine in that one, the scene wear it tears through the one guys whole body is one of my favorite horror bits. I've only seen the second movie, probably about 20 years ago, and that's the only scene I remember. Well, that and a low rent Michael Ironside picking up a hitchhiker and fighting some jawas.
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Choco1980 posted:Short answer: Mike's having a series of nightmares as he deals with the grief of losing his brother so soon after his parents. The very end of part 4 where they show him back as a kid again is him waking up and moving on finally after such an elaborate fantasy world. temple fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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Yeah, they're not classics by any means, but the tone of them is great. A good director could probably condense all four movies into on awesome horror film. There might even be enough good bits for a really good editor to do it with what exists.
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schwenz posted:Yeah, they're not classics by any means, The first one is. One of my favorite horror films of the 1970s, and that decade was very kind to the genre.
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Watching Phantasm I learned that you can open a locked door with a hammer and a shotgun shell. So there's that I guess.
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Rhyno posted:Watching Phantasm I learned that you can open a locked door with a hammer and a shotgun shell. That's one of my favorite parts. It's probably a good thing I don't have any shotgun shells lying around because I probably would've tried to see if that works at some point.
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You don't really need to see the sequels after the first one, but they're still lots of fun. The first movie on the other hand you can tell so much that it was written in a very short amount of time by a guy who didn't know what he was going to make, just that it was going to be scary. There's so many moments where Coscarelli is just throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks, whether it's the crazy shotgun shell lockbreaker just mentioned, or the big bug scene or what. The only part that really doesn't work at a painful level is "Myrt" the housekeeper's jump scare. She pops up way late in the movie just to scare you by walking around a corner, and she's not mentioned before or after at any point. For the record, this is also a great film for the commentary track, regardless of which version you have. The gang obviously had fun making the film, and they all still have a good time talking about it. Also, it taught me to play "Spot the XX" in the film. See, the Dos Equis company made a deal with them to front a big chunk of the budget, in return for product placement in the film, which was no problem for the cast and crew. They thought they'd get maybe like a few packs and like a sign to use or something, and instead, a whole truckload of the beer was sent to them. So you find bottles and boxes for the stuff everywhere in the film if you're looking close.
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That's kind of neat. I remember watching it in college and wondering what the loving deal was with all the Mexican beer.
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I'm bored, what's a good horror movie I should watch?
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Volume posted:I'm bored, what's a good horror movie I should watch? I don't often watch horror movies, but when I do I watch Phantasm.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:That's one of my favorite parts. It's probably a good thing I don't have any shotgun shells lying around because I probably would've tried to see if that works at some point. I vividly recall asking my mother if we had any shotgun shells around. She was not amused at the idea.
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Volume posted:I'm bored, what's a good horror movie I should watch? Phantasmagoria 2: A Puzzle Of Flesh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCBJFDWANF4
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Phantasmagoria 2: A Puzzle Of Flesh I remember getting stuck at the point where the dumb security guard shoots you.
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Drunkboxer posted:I remember getting stuck at the point where the dumb security guard shoots you. Click on the door, not the guy, dum dum!
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Never ever watch Crowsnest ever.
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Click on the door, not the guy, dum dum! Oh that clears it up! I can't remember the specifics of the puzzle at all
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Drunkboxer posted:Oh that clears it up! I can't remember the specifics of the puzzle at all Calling any sequence in Phantasmagoria 2 a puzzle is extremely generous.
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