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icantfindaname posted:you can't be real. this has to be fakeposting. you're like a walking caricature of a neogaf poster Crowbear posted:Congrats guys you gave him exacty what he wanted.
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wii u sux lmbo Speaking as someone who has a Wii U 
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Crowbear posted:Congrats guys you gave him exacty what he wanted. That's fine. The regular Wii U thread shouldn't be a hug box anyway. Hug box threads are a bad idea to begin with. It's possible to actually discuss what's going wrong with the Wii U in a reasonable fashion, in one thread.
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bushisms.txt posted:That port came 6 months late at the same time the trilogy went on sale for 40 for 360 and ps3. Who has only a wii u? And the DLC never showed up. Don't know if it got patched, doubt it. Splinter Cell online doesn't allow you to play with anyone that is on your friends list. You literally have to unfriend, open a public lobby and hope they join you. yes. yes, that was literally almost all nintendo's fault. this isn't controversial.
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icantfindaname posted:you can't be real. this has to be fakeposting. you're like a walking caricature of a neogaf poster The fact that you keep using the word conspiracy has me severly concerned for your mental health. You have some kind of weird dyslexic bullshit going on, where you create whole thoughts out of things I didn't say. icantfindaname posted:yes. yes, that was literally almost all nintendo's fault. this isn't controversial. And you think it's okay the games are broken forever, and it's Nintendo's fault they're not selling.
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Level Slide posted:wii u sux lmbo Ehh. Its ok. 3dworld is pretty fun 
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bushisms.txt posted:That port came 6 months late at the same time the trilogy went on sale for 40 for 360 and ps3. Who has only a wii u? And the DLC never showed up. Don't know if it got patched, doubt it. Splinter Cell online doesn't allow you to play with anyone that is on your friends list. You literally have to unfriend, open a public lobby and hope they join you. It's almost like developing for a proprietary platform is harder than developing for one designed to run basically like a PC.
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bushisms.txt posted:And you think it's okay the games are broken forever, and it's Nintendo's fault they're not selling. I don't own the games that are broken forever, and yes it's nintendo's fault they aren't selling. and it's also at least in part nintendo's fault that the games are broken, although to a point you can reasonably expect devs to support a game once it's launched so not entirely. bushisms.txt posted:The fact that you keep using the word conspiracy has me severly concerned for your mental health. You have some kind of weird dyslexic bullshit going on, where you create whole thoughts out of things I didn't say. the fact that you're posting what you are, in the way you are, and an examination of your post history makes me concerned that you're a deep cover fakeposter. no seriously congratulations, that is some impressive dedication icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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point of return posted:It's almost like developing for a proprietary platform is harder than developing for one designed to run basically like a PC. When is this an excuse ever? Ever ever? Don't release your product. You people are the worst. Don't give anyone an excuse, how is it ok for them to put out broken product on time, but Nintendo can't delay polished games?
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Wasper posted:News flash: It is fake posting. See: He spent a better half of 2013 getting huffy in this thread and getting probated repeatedly to finally unveil he was fakeposting all along.
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icantfindaname posted:I don't own the games that are broken forever, and yes it's nintendo's fault they aren't selling. and it's also at least in part nintendo's fault that the games are broken, although to a point you can reasonably expect devs to support a game once it's launched so not entirely. Please stop talking. You think Nintendo should have to sell someone else's broken product. That's why the industry is the way it is. We get commercial after commercial of lovely game, and you mother fuckers buy it. How many of you bought The Last of Us? That game didn't even have the proper decency to have good AI. And it's game of the year.
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bushisms I don't know if you read this but recently a Wii U developer outlined in detail why exactly it decided to drop support for the console. Among the reasons were troublesome developer tools, a priority on low power consumption, and poor correspondence from Nintendo. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-secret-developers-wii-u-the-inside-story
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AngryCaterpillar posted:bushisms I don't know if you read this but recently a Wii U developer outlined in detail why exactly it decided to drop support for the console. Among the reasons were troublesome developer tools, a priority on low power consumption, and poor correspondence from Nintendo. This was already debunked as before launch, but thanks for the kerosene. I'm sure these guys didn't read about this a month ago. Which is funny, cause the same thing happened to the xbone, and people waived it off. And now they're still waving it off, as it starts a fire in the living room.
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bushisms.txt posted:Please stop talking. You think Nintendo should have to sell someone else's broken product. That's why the industry is the way it is. We get commercial after commercial of lovely game, and you mother fuckers buy it. I don't think nintendo should have to do anything, but I am saying that they have nobody to blame for their current crashing and burning but themselves. and lol @ the idea that last of us is worse than ZombiU or Nintendoland or Skylanders or NSMB installment #17 or or or
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icantfindaname posted:I don't think nintendo should have to do anything, but I am saying that they have nobody to blame for their current crashing and burning but themselves. It's not better than NintendoLand. I'll fight you on that.
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bushisms.txt posted:This was already debunked as before launch, but thanks for the kerosene. I'm sure these guys didn't read about this a month ago. How recent the experience was is hardly relevant when the conditions described were allowed to interfere with the development process of a game that got released.
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AngryCaterpillar posted:How recent the experience was is hardly relevant when the conditions described were allowed to interfere with the development process of a game that got released. Well let me ask you this, how many posts were there when the NFSMW devs talked about liking the Wii U, and how easy it was to develop on? How it only took them a few months to port the game over after taking a break? Oh, none? Cool.
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I think Nintendo just had no idea what they were doing when it came to developing an HD console. Like, the 360 and PS3 were probably not all that much less rocky at launch but there was no choice not to support one of the other as Nintendo didn't have an HD console. And now they do, but Microsoft and Sony have their second HD consoles out and even aside from being more powerful they were forced to get their poo poo together, especially Sony, on making it developer friendly. So maybe if Nintendo makes a ninth gen console it won't be such a mess.
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bushisms.txt posted:Well let me ask you this, how many posts were there when the NFSMW devs talked about liking the Wii U, and how easy it was to develop on? How it only took them a few months to port the game over after taking a break? Oh, none? Cool. A positive tweet, even if it had valid reasoning, doesn't automatically cancel out a detailed teardown of the development process. Some of Nintendo's reputation may be exaggeration but in the end it stems from their own decisions. But it appears the Americans have gone to bed, and I don't want to be the only one continuing this altercation, so I'm going to do something else now.
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To try and steer the topic away from how relevant Nintendo's inability to communicate with developers still is... The hell is up with Taint Reaper's new thread, was this one just too full of positivity for him?
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From what little I've heard, NOA's indie outreach team is actually pretty decent, so I'm assuming that they're separate from the "normal" third party support teams as described in that Eurogamer article. It seems like something Nintendo'd do, at any rate.
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AngryCaterpillar posted:A positive tweet, even if it had valid reasoning, doesn't automatically cancel out a detailed teardown of the development process. Some of Nintendo's reputation may be exaggeration but in the end it stems from the own decisions. But it appears the Americans have gone to bed, and I don't want to be the only one continuing this altercation, so I'm going to do something else now. It was actually a couple of articles, and more official than an anonymous source. A bunch of developers have shouted their approval but that doesn't matter because- And no one is apologizing for them. They made their own bed, with third parties, when they dropped Sony. Iwata already said for the gamecube, that if other people wanted to hop on they could, but they didn't care about 3rd party. They want you to buy their poo poo. Which is why it's ridiculous that Nintendo should promote a broken product that is only out for a cheap buck as a pity-gently caress port. gently caress em. Burn it all down, Iwata. All I'm saying is the negativity is a little thick for no reason.
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AngryCaterpillar posted:A positive tweet, even if it had valid reasoning, doesn't automatically cancel out a detailed teardown of the development process. Some of Nintendo's reputation may be exaggeration but in the end it stems from their own decisions. But it appears the Americans have gone to bed, and I don't want to be the only one continuing this altercation, so I'm going to do something else now. the Americans have quietly exited out the side door because the crazy levels got too high and we're scared of the fallout when the mods come to restore order
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icantfindaname posted:the Americans have quietly exited out the side door because the crazy levels got too high and we're scared of the fallout when the mods come to restore order Yeah. I own a WiiU, I like the system and like the games I have so far, I consider it a personal best console (not to be confused with saying it'll win this generation, I just have a PC for the other stuff). I just don't want to see the WiiU hatcheted like some idiots are claiming is the best thing to do, that'd be worse than limping along until 2016 unless it's an absolute dead fish after this year's games. But I'm not with this guy. Never seen him before in my life.
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The ignore feature is a great feature. Use it.
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Here's a post from Sunning's brother to chew on: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=99029264&postcount=400 quote:Wow, what a dramatic presentation. I guess with Microsoft and Sony having released their consoles and locked in for probably 7 or 8 years, Iwata thought it safe to spill the beans as there's no one to compete with what Nintendo are planning. If you have money, buy Nintendo shares, they'll absolutely skyrocket in the next 3-10 years.
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Sooooo... their strategy is to expand the VC, sell more gimmick peripherals, and make nintendo branded health apps, and magically the money will pour in as if they invented digital distribution, touchscreen tablets, and mobile apps yesterday and there hasn't been a decade of maturation and competition already? They are utterly, utterly hosed. If the nintendo board buys that horseshit as much as the author of that post apparantly does then they are literally as bad any anyone here had imagined. The difference between the Wii and DS and this is that touchscreens and motion controls hadn't really been done before. That was actually innovative. Tablets, The Internet, and health apps have been done for years. And nintendo is literally plugging their fingers in their ears and ignoring it. Their idea of a tablet is a lovely resistive touchscreen that rivals a walmart android. This does not bode well for anyone working at that company or anyone with money invested in it. icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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KittyEmpress posted:But you seem to be missing why they say that.  EDIT: Also I thought the consensus about that Eurogamer article was that it was just a case of "during the launch of a new console the development tools for it are going to suck, no exceptions?" PrBacterio fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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The logic of the Pro-Nintendo people in this thread reminds me of what Blackberry people were saying a few years back and we saw how that all turned out....
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PrBacterio posted:EDIT: Also I thought the consensus about that Eurogamer article was that it was just a case of "during the launch of a new console the development tools for it are going to suck, no exceptions?"
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bushisms.txt posted:Here's a post from Sunning's brother to chew on: That is a lot of bullshit spin.
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PrBacterio posted:What reason is there ever for wanting to own any console, except to play the games available on it? So seeing how the Wii U apparently has games available on it that you want to play, what is it that makes the idea of owning one so repulsive in and of itself that you still refuse to do so? Because, for most people, there are literally only 2 or 3 games on the wii u that are enticing, and maybe 1 or 2 more in the forseeable future. $300 system + tax + price of games is a lot of freaking money for a very small handful of games. And the games aren't even groundbreaking in any way, it's not like you're Delving into a New Realm of Technology. Even from a gameplay perspective - most of them are sequels!
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I said come in! posted:That is a lot of bullshit spin. Hmm let me peruse that large post. quote:People talk about Silicon Valley, but Silicon Valley can't compete with Nintendo  What else does this fine gentleman say in that thread? quote:When has Silicon Valley successfully managed to compete with Nintendo consoles or handhelds? When has Silicon Valley released a thriving hardware/software ecosystem? The big companies like Sony, MS and Apple could potentially compete with Nintendo, but the smaller guys probably not. Ok then. The QoL platform is going to be a huge hit because ~Nintendo Magic~ and other tech companies can't compete with that. Also apparently Nintendo are gonna market the poo poo out of it! For real this time! Clearly an informed and unbiased poster.
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PrBacterio posted:I don't get this line of thinking, and I don't think I ever will. What reason is there ever for wanting to own any console, except to play the games available on it? So seeing how the Wii U apparently has games available on it that you want to play, what is it that makes the idea of owning one so repulsive in and of itself that you still refuse to do so? No confidence that the Wii U is going to be around a year from now. Everything Nintendo has said so far shows that they will probably be discontinuing the console. I really believe that. If this is still a weak year for hardware and software sales for Nintendo, the Wii U is gone.
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I said come in! posted:That is a lot of bullshit spin. 
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Crowbear posted:Hmm let me peruse that large post.
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PrBacterio posted:Jesus Christ you really weren't kidding You can read the whole thing, but pretty much just stop after "If you have money, buy Nintendo shares, they'll absolutely skyrocket in the next 3-10 years." It gets progressively more crazy after that.
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Polo-Rican posted:Because, for most people, there are literally only 2 or 3 games on the wii u that are enticing, and maybe 1 or 2 more in the forseeable future. $300 system + tax + price of games is a lot of freaking money for a very small handful of games. And the games aren't even groundbreaking in any way, it's not like you're Delving into a New Realm of Technology. Even from a gameplay perspective - most of them are sequels! Well... don't get a system for just two or three games? That seems pretty logical to me. I have a Wii U, and I have 8 retail games plus some digital downloads like NES remix. I am already higher than the average attach rate for most systems, meaning I buy more games than the average consumer.
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The Kins posted:You're trying to make sense out of posts on NeoGAF. Please stop before you hurt your brain. Too late. I need an advil or something.
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Oh hey, the first photo of Nintendo's Non-Wearable QOL Platform just leaked out:
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