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ConfusedUs posted:Dumb question: but does the bit level of Java matter for this app? I thought about this and made sure everything was 32-bit :\ Nemo2342 posted:My setup guide for the seasonal payroll admin is: Funny thing about that is that if you install Firefox, rather than "Contact your System Administrator" you get "Click here to download Java from us." The weird part is that the version that the link downloads is slightly newer than the version listed as "required" but it still doesn't work. I even modified the URL to pull the supposedly required version and that STILL didn't work.
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WebDev update: He is now demanding a network diagram and credentials to the router so he can make the changes himself. This is pretty much my responce to him: 
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Jan 31, 2014 21:43
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How long until your bosses cave and give him the credentials, and then poo poo on you for not getting it done?
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Jan 31, 2014 21:50
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:How long until your bosses cave and give him the credentials, and then poo poo on you for not getting it done? not sure on this one. This guy is a contractor not an employee so they may stand their ground.
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Jan 31, 2014 21:51
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There are paid professionals who install Apache on Windows? 
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Jan 31, 2014 21:51
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babies havin rabies posted:People install Apache on Windows? All the time. IIS still has a bad rap. It's much better these days but unfortunately IIS's reputation is still terrible.
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Jan 31, 2014 21:52
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babies havin rabies posted:There are paid professionals who install Apache on Windows? I'll put my foot in my mouth and say wouldn't that be preferable to IIS?
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AlternateAccount posted:I'll put my foot in my mouth and say wouldn't that be preferable to IIS? I prefer Apache to IIS, just that using Windows for it seems unnecessarily complicated and then having it face the Internet and securing it properly seems like it would be more trouble than it's worth. I mean, the first time I ever had to install Apache back when I was a student, I asked a co-worker how to do it on Windows, he just kind of gave me an odd look and that was the first day I used Linux. I know stuff like WAMP exists but I never thought it was intended as a practical solution. Edit: I just noticed it's a development workstation, I guess that's a little less strange to me. babies havin rabies fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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Jan 31, 2014 21:55
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Agrikk posted:This code and the MoneyShovel conversation have made me smile and giggle under my breath this morning. Thanks folks and Happy Friday! CREATE TABLE APPS.TABLE_NAME ( COUNT NUMBER, "FROM" VARCHAR2 (50), "WHERE" VARCHAR2 (50), "AND" VARCHAR2 (50), "OR" VARCHAR2 (50) ) / SELECT "FROM", "WHERE", "COUNT" FROM table_name WHERE "FROM" NOT LIKE 'where' AND "WHERE" NOT LIKE 'from' AND "AND" IS NOT NULL;
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Zero VGS posted:My brother runs a jewelry store and someone pawned him a steel ring that had the Java logo on it and a transponder inside it, given out at some convention. JavaRing. Ran Java Card on the one wire standard. Those were given out at java world in mid to late nineties additionally Dallas semiconductor sold them.
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Feb 1, 2014 04:43
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Posting Principle posted:On the server, as a developer? Yes, definitely. In the browser, as a CJ... ? Yeah, basically this. I'm moving from Android to iOS, and so far I'd much prefer the cold, rigid, autistic embrace of Java than the hipster shouting "YOLO" as he dives off a building that is Obj-c. As a CJ, I only have it installed because I need the JDK as a developer. I've disabled it in all browsers.
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Feb 1, 2014 04:56
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What's especially annoying is that, if they seriously can't be bothered to write good code that won't break by updates to Java, they could just use one of the several AOT compilers for Java to produce fully compiled executables that don't require a JVM at all. You're already losing the whole "platform neutral" thing anyway when your lovely software won't run unless a random unsecure version of Java is installed, so just say gently caress it and .exe for everyone!
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Feb 1, 2014 06:30
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Seriously, why should anyone give a poo poo about being moolti-plat anyway? Enterprise environments run Windows, period. I don't about other sites, but my site is Windows from soup to nuts. It's even better when they are departments that have to use every program in the production environment. The quality management department is such a pain in the rear end because of this since they need several programs that all use their super special version of java and nothing else. I guess this is why my parent company makes everyone RDS to access the timekeeping since it's Kronos and already breaks if your left nut is slightly lower than it was the last time you used Kronos, let alone if every schmuck across the country was using whatever version of Java they felt like. The powers that be are having us power cycle all the VDIs in the hospital on a weekly basis from now on. Remember when these things were supposed to be low maintenance? Wrong, the system fucks up constantly nearly a year after go-live and they came up with this bonehead idea to try and fix it. The EMR people point fingers at Citrix, Citrix points fingers at the EMR and the authentication scheme, I point my middle finger at everyone. I guarantee it's a huge waste of time and will not fix anything. There will still be times when they all get together and have a good old fashioned error fad. All the cool VDIs are refusing to load programs this week maaaan.
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skooma512 posted:Seriously, why should anyone give a poo poo about being moolti-plat anyway? Enterprise environments run Windows, period. I don't about other sites, but my site is Windows from soup to nuts. It's a nice thought until the CFO can't run it on his Special Snowflake Macbook. Then I hope you have a .dmg!
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Feb 1, 2014 19:00
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Here's the summary for a ticket my wife handled: I got an error. What error? I don't know. It's not working. Here's the steps to complete this. I did that already. It's not working. Please do it again and just follow the steps I sent you. That way if you get another error, you can send me the error number. ... It worked. But it didn't work the last time. You're welcome.
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The Electronaut posted:JavaRing. Ran Java Card on the one wire standard. Those were given out at java world in mid to late nineties additionally Dallas semiconductor sold them. Apparently they existed for guys like this guy http://www.nngroup.com/articles/javaring-wearable-computer/ to write up articles in 98 on how they are the future. Instead he uses it to load up his homepage to take a picture of himself for his article
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Feb 1, 2014 19:16
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skooma512 posted:Enterprise environments run Windows, period. I don't about other sites, but my site is Windows from soup to nuts. 
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Feb 2, 2014 02:57
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I love having a boss that won't say no, and is convinced that customer service just means doing whatever the user wants, not actually trying to solve any of their problems.
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Feb 2, 2014 04:32
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skooma512 posted:Seriously, why should anyone give a poo poo about being moolti-plat anyway? Enterprise environments run Windows, period. I don't about other sites, but my site is Windows from soup to nuts. Linux/Unix doesn't exist in enterprise environments. 
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Feb 2, 2014 05:10
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ratbert90 posted:Linux/Unix doesn't exist in enterprise environments. Not on desktops, no. Who gives a gently caress what's running in the datacenter? All these lovely java apps run on workstations.
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Feb 2, 2014 05:24
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Not on desktops, no. Who gives a gently caress what's running in the datacenter? All these lovely java apps run on workstations. That is true. I generally think enterprise environments include the backend poo poo also.
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Lum posted:Showed my girlfriend the MoneyShovel stuff as she's the networks person in this house. Her response... You just gave me flashbacks to when I worked for SGI and delt with IRIX. ...and I actually LIKED IRIX. ...Most of the time. EDIT teethgrinder posted:Please submit to thedailywtf.com I can possibly explain this, but my explanation would need to be converted from UNIXspeak to WINDOWSspeak. In UNIX, you usually tell apps which java to use by doing something like /usr/java1.6.0_17/bin/java /usr/java1.7.0_8709823845/bin/java ln -s /usr/java /usr/java1.6.0_17 Then, some idiot developer does: export PATH=/usr/java1.7.0_8709823845/bin/java:$PATH to translate, you usually set your default java with a symlink. Idiot developers will just set path statements in their user environments which breaks everything. nitrogen fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Feb 2, 2014 |
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:Not on desktops, no. Who gives a gently caress what's running in the datacenter? All these lovely java apps run on workstations. Gephi's a pretty cool desktop Java app. There's all of maybe one weird startup where it would actually be installed by default, and they don't have enough employees for "runs on anything" to actually matter. Because they only have two employees, who have already figured out how to set it up themselves.
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skooma512 posted:Seriously, why should anyone give a poo poo about being moolti-plat anyway? Enterprise environments run Windows, period. I don't about other sites, but my site is Windows from soup to nuts. That's THE funniest joke I've heard in a LONG time. I've never heard of a single company that runs windows in any serious environment. Do you work for Tardco or IdiotiCorp?
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nitrogen posted:I can possibly explain this, but my explanation would need to be converted from UNIXspeak to WINDOWSspeak. 
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Megaman posted:That's THE funniest joke I've heard in a LONG time. I've never heard of a single company that runs windows in any serious environment. Do you work for Tardco or IdiotiCorp? Uh, seriously?
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nitrogen posted:You just gave me flashbacks to when I worked for SGI and delt with IRIX.
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Alctel posted:Uh, seriously? The latest trend has been to go 100% AS400. Better start learning how to program in RPG!
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Megaman posted:That's THE funniest joke I've heard in a LONG time. I've never heard of a single company that runs windows in any serious environment. Do you work for Tardco or IdiotiCorp? I'll inform the .NET developers...
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Feb 2, 2014 08:23
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It happened, I found the user with the worst mouse ever. http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/rollermouse-pro2
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Knormal posted:It happened, I found the user with the worst mouse ever. Good god, that has to be the worst ever peripheral I have ever seen.
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Feb 2, 2014 08:41
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Knormal posted:It happened, I found the user with the worst mouse ever. Rollerbar posted:If your cursor cannot move further, simply slide the bar to the right or left until you hear a gentle click. This activates the end detection and the cursor can move anywhere on the screen. Bringing the idea of a carriage return back into the 21st century as something other than an esoteric ascii character.
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inkblottime posted:
yeah, what the fuk is that anyway? we both know that you DIDN'T do that already. been there done that.
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Megaman posted:That's THE funniest joke I've heard in a LONG time. I've never heard of a single company that runs windows in any serious environment. Do you work for Tardco or IdiotiCorp? I work for one of the world's largest international banks, and with a handful of exceptions it's Windows Server of various flavours for everything back-end and Windows 7 on the desktops.
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Feb 2, 2014 11:04
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Knormal posted:It happened, I found the user with the worst mouse ever. They have another model that's more like a rolling pad which is pretty nice though, since it's pretty much a touchpad with haptic feedback.
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Feb 2, 2014 11:10
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My job it is only Windows Server and AS400. I do all the Windows stuff and the old dudes program in RPG.
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Collateral Damage posted:You're either trolling or you've never worked outside the IT/web industry. I know of only a couple servers that run Linux (other than our ESXi boxes) on our network, but the remaining several hundred all run Windows. In fact, we just stood up another 50 or so Windows virtual servers in preparation for migrating from OCS to Lync. Of course this is a United States Department of Defense network so that might explain why.
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Oh right ESX. Have any of you use Jabber? We're trying to decide between Jabber and Lync. We get both with our licensing.
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Knormal posted:It happened, I found the user with the worst mouse ever. Yeah one of my user base has one of those for her RSI (carpal tunnel for US people), I have no idea what the gently caress but it seems to be no slower than a normal mouse for her. Anyway, pretty sure those joystick mice are worse. Edit: This thing: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/ergonomics/home/products/ergonomicmouse/ A friend got given one because he complained about his wrist hurting after an accident and he hated it so much he had surgery instead
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GreenNight posted:Oh right ESX. Have any of you use Jabber? We're trying to decide between Jabber and Lync. We get both with our licensing. Then you might as well go for Lync.
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