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quote:The Assistant Principal DID stop him, but it was after he'd already killed two people and injured seven others. He just held him in the parking lot until the cops got there to arrest him. I agree, lives would've been saved if the principal could've had the gun on his person. http://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=4761&ec=1 Wapole Languray posted:Also, the Principal was a Major in the Army Reserve, so was 1000% more qualified to be within a mile of a gun than whatever schlub made that. Hey guys I found some stupid poo poo for the thread. DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Feb 2, 2014 |
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It is a good point that reservists and off-duty cops, who have proven firearm competence, should be able to carry. Should every Tom, Dick, and Jane have lethal force at a twitch away? Probably not. The reason cops on duty should be wearing cameras is because they are entrusted with lethal force, and something like that should have oversight wherever possible.
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Letting retired cops carry firearms everywhere is the only way to solve our national epidemic of texting at the theater. We cannot afford to be Soft on Nuisance.
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VitalSigns posted:Letting retired cops carry firearms everywhere is the only way to solve our national epidemic of texting at the theater.
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Dyz posted:Science hard. Big words hard. The catalytic converter one cracks me up as most exhaust systems would be designed to have similar backpressure that a CC creates if it didn't have one. It creates low end torque that most 4 cylinder engines need.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:The catalytic converter one cracks me up as most exhaust systems would be designed to have similar backpressure that a CC creates if it didn't have one. It creates low end torque that most 4 cylinder engines need. What it actually does is irrelevant, people are opposed to catalytic converters because they have to have them. It's the same sort of childish knee-jerk 'DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO DAD!' reaction that leads to people opposing seat belts and motorcycle helmets. There's absolutely no reason whatsoever to not use one, but you get people refusing to anyway solely because someone told them to. There's a lot of the same poo poo going around about incandescent light bulbs. Fluorescent bulbs are actually cheaper in the long run, have to be replaced less often, and are basically better than incandescent bulbs in every way for household use. You still have people completely freaking out over the phasing-out of incandescents because it's an 'assault on our freedom'. They do everything they can to stick with incandescent bulbs, costing themselves more money for an inferior product at no real gain to themselves, solely because they want to be contrarian.
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DeusExMachinima posted:Hey guys I found some stupid poo poo for the thread. Except it isn't? If someone posts an image macro about how Obama is literally Hitler for wanting to take away ARE GUNS while also being surrounded by Secret Service agents who are armed with guns, the thread is quick to point out that Secret Service agents undergo lots and lots of training and screening, which makes them way more qualified to carry and use guns than some Average Joe who just happened to be issued a gun license. This isn't suggesting that sprinkling reservists and ex-cops around public areas is the solution to any kind of problem, it's merely pointing out the fact that "this one heroic gun-haver saved the day!" only worked because the gun-haver happened to be someone with lots of training on how to use his gun responsibly. The original image posted suggests that gun ownership works because a private citizen stopped a crime using his gun while omitting the part about the vast majority of private citizens being distinctly NOT Secret Service agents nor soldiers nor police officers.
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Compulsory firearms training for all citizens is the answer to all of our problems.
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Breadallelogram posted:Compulsory firearms training for all citizens is the answer to all of our problems. Yup. Instead of a draft everyone at 18ish gets a fitness check-up, range practice, and basic first aid / CPR. (With a Recruitment pitch) E Pluribus Unum.
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I don't know poo poo about cars; why would anyone be mad about catalytic converters? Please use small words if possible.
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Swan Oat posted:I don't know poo poo about cars; why would anyone be mad about catalytic converters? Please use small words if possible. Gubmit bad, 289HiPo good.
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Breadallelogram posted:Compulsory firearms training for all citizens is the answer to all of our problems. That plus mood stabilizers. Like a heavily armed Brave New World.
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Swan Oat posted:I don't know poo poo about cars; why would anyone be mad about catalytic converters? Please use small words if possible. A catalytic converter acts kind of like a sponge stuck into the end of a garden hose. It doesn't block the flow, but it does provide some resistance while it's doing its thing. You know how sometimes a big company will make a decision that fucks over everyone else, just because it saves a few thousand bucks? This is the baby version of that, they'd happily spew pollutants out of their car if it meant they could save a nickel at the gas pump.
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gradenko_2000 posted:the gun-haver happened to be someone with lots of training on how to use his gun responsibly. You're possibly being a bit optimistic, don't you think?
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Breadallelogram posted:Compulsory firearms training for all citizens is the answer to all of our problems. I know you're joking, but in Canada you have to pass basic firearms safety and handling course and submit to background checks to get a firearms license. I mean, really, it's a pretty straightforward approach to gun control that more or less seems to work here. You train, license and regulate everything from your drivers to your harmful chemicals handlers, so I don't see what's unreasonable about training and licensing people who wish to purchase and use firearms to make sure they're qualified to do so.
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Willatron posted:I know you're joking, but in Canada you have to pass basic firearms safety and handling course and submit to background checks to get a firearms license. Look, your socialist hellscape of a country just doesn't understand guns. We need to make sure everyone in the country apart from those people, of course has a gun, and making prospective gun owners go through some incredibly logical process is unAmerican.
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Willatron posted:I know you're joking, but in Canada you have to pass basic firearms safety and handling course and submit to background checks to get a firearms license. I'd be completely in favor of that, actually.
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Sometimes I question why I'm facebook friends with someone who would post this: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html, linked from some facebook page called The Skeptical Libertarian.
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Wojtek posted:Sometimes I question why I'm facebook friends with someone who would post this: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/01/no-women-don-t-make-less-money-than-men.html, linked from some facebook page called The Skeptical Libertarian. Reminder that women are systematically discriminated against in STEM fields and in the US you're guaranteed exactly 0 weeks paid maternity (12 weeks unpaid) http://www.bustle.com/articles/14024-was-obamas-state-of-the-union-right-do-women-earn-77-cents-on-a-mans-dollar
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LaserShark posted:Look, your socialist hellscape of a country just doesn't understand guns. We need to make sure everyone in the country apart from those people, of course has a gun, and making prospective gun owners go through some incredibly logical process is unAmerican. Yeah man, the Queen is still sovereign in Canada. Their lack of guns prevents them from throwing off the Monarchy's irons! Only Ireland and America are free and they are free because of their guns.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:A catalytic converter acts kind of like a sponge stuck into the end of a garden hose. It doesn't block the flow, but it does provide some resistance while it's doing its thing. Race cars are exempt from emissions controls -> therefore it is better -> therefore I need it on my street car
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Prepare yourself for terrible edgy poo poo about Phillip Seymour Hoffman dying of a drug overdose.
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So I play an MMO where people can make their own quests for others to play with an editor called The Foundry. Someone was spamming this in the zone chat in the main city: "Wow there is such an AWESOME foundry quest up For Review-- its called No More Handouts DEMOCRAPS! lol.... you have to eliminate everyone who voted for Obozo twice!!!" How sad does your life have to be to be so angry at politics that you waste your time making that?
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:So I play an MMO where people can make their own quests for others to play with an editor called The Foundry. Someone was spamming this in the zone chat in the main city: Probably even sadder when you spend time trying to convince people that your poo poo is sooo awesome that you're claiming that you're totally not the maker.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:So I play an MMO where people can make their own quests for others to play with an editor called The Foundry. Someone was spamming this in the zone chat in the main city: The loot isn't even good at the end. 1 out of 5 stars, no tip! Edit: Campfires in that game are socialism, potions are capitalism. Time to put your money where your mouth is and only use potions and portable shrines, no more freeloading! Dr. Arbitrary fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Feb 3, 2014 |
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PUGGERNAUT posted:Prepare yourself for terrible edgy poo poo about Phillip Seymour Hoffman dying of a drug overdose. No kidding. I have a friend of mine who is a lesbian and got married to her wife last fall go on a diatribe about how Hoffman's heroin addiction was just a choice he made and that we should not feel bad for him. I really want to tell her that she sounds like all the people who would tell her that she is a lesbian by choice and no one forced her to live as she does. ( I don't believe that, but it's breathtaking to her that from her.)
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The first time you do Heroin, it's a choice. It's like choosing door A vs door B. Nothing wrong with being critical of that choice. But after that point, it's like hanging from a tightrope. Do you choose to keep hanging on or let go. A person in that position doesn't need people to berate them for their bad decisions, they need help!
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Armyman25 posted:No kidding. I have a friend of mine who is a lesbian and got married to her wife last fall go on a diatribe about how Hoffman's heroin addiction was just a choice he made and that we should not feel bad for him. I really want to tell her that she sounds like all the people who would tell her that she is a lesbian by choice and no one forced her to live as she does. ( I don't believe that, but it's breathtaking to her that from her.) Comparing her sexuality to a harmful physiological dependency is not likely to win her over to your point of view. Her saying that addiction is 100% voluntary and not deserving of sympathy is stupid bullshit, but so is implying that her lesbianism is a harmful disorder that needs treatment.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:The first time you do Heroin, it's a choice. It's like choosing door A vs door B. Nothing wrong with being critical of that choice. Apparently PSH's thing was that he was a user when he was young, was clean for a long time but his personal life kind of fell apart in the last year or so and he went back to it.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:The first time you do Heroin, it's a choice. It's like choosing door A vs door B. Nothing wrong with being critical of that choice. Do you really think there is a lot of choice going on when someones all "yeah just gimme that needle full of fuckin heroin"? I mean, sure, its technically a choice but I've got to imagine that there's a lot more going on in persons head when they jump on that horse. I've known a few junkies and I can't say they were super well adjusted when they tried it out for the first time.
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A general rule of thumb- your friend's hypocrisy on a given issue may be stark to you, but bringing it up will virtually never, ever lead to good results. The most reasonable person in the world will still react to even a carefully worded hypocrisy accusation as if it was a threat to their sense of identity- which it is! This is precisely the sort of place where my easily mocked "addiction is a chronic whole mind disease" argument can make some headway. Once the individual is an addict, every part of their mental landscape can warp itself into justifying further abuse, to the point where they can't trust their own memories or senses. John Cheese, a recovering alcoholic at Cracked, has a great anecdote about successfully quitting drinking for 6 months, then nonchalantly cracking open a cold one in front of a friend. In response to their horror and confusion, Cheese said that his abstinence had achieved its goal- by not drinking for 6 months, he'd lost a bunch of weight, so he could start drinking again. He'd managed to create an entirely false memory of why he stopped drinking in the first place. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Feb 3, 2014 |
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:The first time you do Heroin, it's a choice. It's like choosing door A vs door B. Nothing wrong with being critical of that choice. That's not true at all. While heroin is certainly addictive the myth of the "hooked the first time" is certainly overblown. PSH's real problem is that he went to rehab instead of doing LSD.
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800peepee51doodoo posted:Do you really think there is a lot of choice going on when someones all "yeah just gimme that needle full of fuckin heroin"? I mean, sure, its technically a choice but I've got to imagine that there's a lot more going on in persons head when they jump on that horse. I've known a few junkies and I can't say they were super well adjusted when they tried it out for the first time. Oh, you're totally right, I doubt many people are in a position to make good choices when they start heroin, I just really want to emphasize the difference that addiction makes. The hope is that if you can knock a little hole in the whole "people should just decide to stop doing Heroin and get a job" thought, you can work from there to make the hole larger. You might go back to the "Two Doors" scenario and say that it'd be like that if you were having a normal day and someone offered you some Heroin. "Hello sir, I'm a drug dealer and I'd like to know if you are interested in purchasing some Heroin. My prices are listed on this menu here." You'd be in a good position to make a decision. It's different when you've been unemployed for 6 months, your girlfriend killed herself and your mom has cancer. You gotta do it in steps.
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Reactions to the Coke Super Bowl commercial are predictable. How dare you song a song about America in any other language than English?
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ohgodwhat posted:You're possibly being a bit optimistic, don't you think? Yes, I was, but the point stands. Defenestration posted:Reminder that women are systematically discriminated against in STEM fields and in the US you're guaranteed exactly 0 weeks paid maternity (12 weeks unpaid) A picture of "countries with government-mandated maternity leave" showed up on my feed once, and the very first reply was a Libertarian claiming that because there were SOME American companies that offer maternity leave, it was an example of the free market working - "The system works! We don't need to force companies to provide maternity leave because look at all these corporations that implemented it because they recognized the market value/economic benefit of it all on their own!". That the examples amounted to less than 10% of all companies never fazed him. EDIT: Found it! gradenko_2000 fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Feb 3, 2014 |
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Swan Oat posted:I don't know poo poo about cars; why would anyone be mad about catalytic converters? Please use small words if possible. It's a groundbreaking technology that is really good for the environment.
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KKKLIP ART posted:Reactions to the Coke Super Bowl commercial are predictable. How dare you song a song about America in any other language than English? It's more fun to include some of the things being said. My favorites being the comments about it being in Hawaiian and the "I'm all for diversity, but!" line.
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Phone posted:It's a groundbreaking technology that is really good for the environment. It's a communist plot to sap our cars of their purity of essence. Have you wondered, Phone, why I only drive with pure tetraethyllead and West Texas crude?
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Haha, that "STOP THE ILLUMINATI" guy just slays me. I imagine he reacts the same way to any minor inconvenience. Out of Cheerios? THIS IS COMMUNISM. Stubbed a toe? NEW WORLD ORDER.
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