The MSJ posted:edit: Listening to Superman's anti-KKK radio show led me to this: "Eat all your Pep! Doyun't waste it!" I'm never going to forget those drat radio ads as long as I live.
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Soonmot posted:I wonder when the American ideal switched from black hair to blond hair. Probably a combination of Marylin Monroe and Playboy. And after the WW2 Nazi propaganda died down.
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Feb 4, 2014 08:56
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Mister Roboto posted:Probably a combination of Marylin Monroe and Playboy. And after the WW2 Nazi propaganda died down. Given that Marylin was Playboy's first cover girl, I think it's solely on her, she's a great actress though. It's like blaiming 70's Steve McQueen for turtle necks.
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Feb 4, 2014 09:51
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Gygaxian posted:Honestly, I like the idea of put-down-upon Shocker becoming a hero and I have a soft spot for Shocker: Legit but yeah, it's pretty terrible after a re-read or so. In more than a few ways, TS:L works pretty well, and if you trimmed a few things like Shockerdad being Behind Everything and toned down the head-and-balls exploding goreporn, it would actually make a pretty good standalone miniseries. You can work with grimness and grit easier when you're dealing with lesser supervillains who are more 'in touch' with 'traditional crime' (ie, virtually all criminals being low-thinking, easily prone to violence and sadism thugs), unlike the Dooms and Luthors whose work goes purely into the fantastic like moon lasers or turning sodas into superpower dispensers. So you could still have your violent, vicious fights, a man struggling against his weaknesses and trying to use what gifts he has, his struggles made harder by the fact that his existing deeds have already heavily defined how the world will see him. Heck, you could even potentially keep the Black Cat angle, because there are stories where the most unusual people can click. The problem is, Max Landis tries to apply the same kind of thinking to the more mythic and fantastic A-List DC superheroes, where it just doesn't WORK. Now, I'm not saying you can't have a grim, gritty Superman story, but it's forcing an oval peg into a round hole: it doesn't fit well and never will. It's not who Superman is, and it's not what his archtype is. Superman put into the worst kind of situations and overcoming them is stories like where he fought that eviler 5th dimensional imp, Vyndydiv or something, and he beat it by overwhelming its innate strange nature by having the world say their names backwards. Its not in Doomsday making his bones stick out of his arms and coughing out his lungs. We should move this derail to another thread if want to keep discussing it. In actual funny panels (in a WTF are you serious) way, it turns out they gave a comic book to Billy Ray Cyrus. Yes, he of the Miley dad and Achey Breaky Heart song. Now, plenty of real life celebrities have gotten comics and some have been pretty ridiculous, like Eminem teaming up with Punisher and the Backstreet Boys having superpowers. So what does this comic do with Cyrus?  Why, send him back to medieval times of course! Makes perfect sense to me. (Billy Ray Cyrus #1, obviously).
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Feb 4, 2014 09:58
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Holy poo poo I've seen links to the Billy Ray Cyrus comic making the rounds for a week or so now, but I had no idea that the art was that good.... it's almost criminal that Billy Ray Cyrus got such good art while I've seen major superhero books get garbage.
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Feb 4, 2014 10:03
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Skwirl posted:Ultimate Shocker is the best Shocker. Well that and terrified Shocker from the 90's cartoon where Spider-Man in the symbiote costume is trying to kill him (I tried to look it up on youtube, but Disney has been purging a poo poo ton of 90's Marvel cartoon clips) I've found this one, but I remember there was a longer version with more of the scene in it.
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Feb 4, 2014 12:54
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Xtreme X-men #19 (I'm on a bit of an X-kick right now) Good to see the X-men realize how ridiculous their lives are.
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Feb 4, 2014 19:55
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Metal Loaf posted:I've found this one, but I remember there was a longer version with more of the scene in it. That's exactly what I was looking for. Here, have some french Spider-Man too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hklLfKJ6ie0
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Feb 4, 2014 20:07
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surc posted:Xtreme X-men #19 (I'm on a bit of an X-kick right now) Their lives are so ridiculous that I had to read it three times before realizing "Oh wait, they're just joking". My first X-Instinct was that everyone was being dead serious for some reason 
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Feb 4, 2014 20:13
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Captain Oblivious posted:My first X-Instinct was that everyone was being dead serious for some reason I thought it was serious and didn't question it because that sounds like a Tuesday for the X-Men.
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Feb 4, 2014 20:32
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Feb 4, 2014 20:36
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There really needs to be a Spidey Super Stories omnibus. Edit, it actually should be an Essential probably, I think it'd work better as black and white newsprint.
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Feb 4, 2014 20:41
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The MSJ posted:Fortunately, Venom driving a truck is still there. "How can I ever repay you?" "Well you might give me a big ----" Oh phew, he only ended up asking for a bowl of cereal.
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Feb 4, 2014 22:38
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mind the walrus posted:Superman and the Joker meet for the very first time: This version of Superman reads like One Punch Man.
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Feb 4, 2014 22:44
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surc posted:Xtreme X-men #19 (I'm on a bit of an X-kick right now) It's actually really nice to see that Claremont has a sense of humor about that stuff.
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Feb 4, 2014 22:46
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Terror Sweat posted:This version of Superman reads like One Punch Man. It's a bit better if you read the whole two-issue arc, but not by much. Superman's voice was way, way off for me here, and the meta-discussion of Superman as boring/not-boring that occurs in the arc is really ham-fisted. I like the page with the different versions of Joker though.
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Feb 4, 2014 22:59
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I thought it was serious and didn't question it because that sounds like a Tuesday for the X-Men. Yeah, the next page actually has Somebody asking Beast "Does this kind of thing happen all the time?" and getting the response "More than you'd think" before they all burst out laughing. 
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Feb 4, 2014 23:16
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Crowetron posted:I know Max Landis is a huge rear end in a top hat, but this really sums up pretty much all my problems with The Joker and Batman. I have to agree there.
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Feb 4, 2014 23:20
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Trast posted:I have to agree there. "It feels like you're trying too hard" might as well be the Joker's bio at this point in time. edit: "You're a goofy idea that only a child would think is cool" also a strong contender. The story isn't the greatest ever but it's so cathartic to read a story that has the Joker in it that doesn't have the writer struggling to portray the sheer size and virility of the boner they have for this one-note character. It's a breath of fresh air to have him shut down for once, even if Superman gets a little out-of-character doing it. Fuego Fish fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Feb 4, 2014 |
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Feb 4, 2014 23:23
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Yeah, devoid of all other context, those Superman/Joker pages are pretty good.
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Feb 4, 2014 23:32
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mind the walrus posted:Wikipedia says Cho's abilities are: Allow me to show what a real Marvel Asian stereotype looks like.    (NFL SuperPro #10)
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Feb 4, 2014 23:58
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Yes that's unquestionably worse delfin but that doesn't mean Amadeus Cho doesn't fit the mold of an Asian stereotype either.
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Feb 5, 2014 00:04
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Did he gain those powers when he was shoved into a radioactive locker by Superpro?
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Feb 5, 2014 00:04
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Fuego Fish posted:"It feels like you're trying too hard" might as well be the Joker's bio at this point in time. "You can do that?" could be Superman's bio too.
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Feb 5, 2014 00:10
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The next page should just be Superman dismissively waving his hands at Joker and a tiny Superman flies out to carry Joker to the authorities.
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Feb 5, 2014 00:15
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The MSJ posted:The next page should just be Superman dismissively waving his hands at Joker and a tiny Superman flies out to carry Joker to the authorities. Holy poo poo yes.
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Feb 5, 2014 00:23
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mind the walrus posted:Holy poo poo yes. What's that reference to?
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Feb 5, 2014 00:31
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Feb 5, 2014 00:32
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bobkatt013 posted:Superman #125 Here's the cover.  Grant Morrison was so amused by the concept that he made an homage to it in All-Star Superman # 10. 
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Feb 5, 2014 00:38
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There's a nice quote where Morrison is talking about his reputation on being so creative and weird and he brings up this story and goes (very roughly paraphrased) "You've got a story where Superman can shoot a smaller version of himself out of his hand and then gets jealous when that Superman is better than him. I could never come up with a story like that. That's creative."
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Feb 5, 2014 00:48
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Terror Sweat posted:This version of Superman reads like One Punch Man. Wait, what did he compromise?
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Feb 5, 2014 00:50
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He laughed at a funny thing the Joker said, and never, not even in the face of Armageddon.
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Feb 5, 2014 01:17
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bobkatt013 posted:Superman #125 My favorite part is Superman jogging over the ocean
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delfin posted:Allow me to show what a real Marvel Asian stereotype looks like. 87.93^3 ergs is equal to 0.068 J, or about the 1/15 amount of work needed to lift an apple 1 meter. That's...not a very hard punch. It's also not a measurement of force.
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Endless Mike posted:87.93^3 ergs is equal to 0.068 J, or about the 1/15 amount of work needed to lift an apple 1 meter. That's...not a very hard punch. It's also not a measurement of force. Obviously he's so smart he knows how to throw that punch just right to cause maximum devastation. e: Never mind, I'm dumb, misread the panel. I feel so ashamed, and I'm Asian to boot. 
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Feb 5, 2014 02:33
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What did NFL Superpro score on the Wonderlic?
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Feb 5, 2014 02:35
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Admittedly, the ability to solve complex math problems reflexively and incorrectly would be a great gag power.
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Feb 5, 2014 02:40
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Action Tortoise posted:Grant Morrison was so amused by the concept that he made an homage to it in All-Star Superman # 10. No, the Superman Emergency Squad is a totally different thing. 
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Endless Mike posted:What did NFL Superpro score on the Wonderlic? I'm going to guess pretty low, since his powers came from breathing a bunch of burning plastic and chemical fumes.
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