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I must admit, before GT, I would have thought Vegeta be the worst dad ever. As in "you are here to date my daughter? BIG BANG ATTACK!!!" But just look how he lets Bra dress. And he doesn't make her train or anything. Veget afor Best Dad. (by DBZ's abysmally low standards)
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a cartoon duck posted:RIP Vegeta's mustache. Hell yeah Vegeta's pornstache was the best thing in GT.
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Feb 4, 2014 20:05
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NikkolasKing posted:I must admit, before GT, I would have thought Vegeta be the worst dad ever. As in "you are here to date my daughter? BIG BANG ATTACK!!!" But just look how he lets Bra dress. And he doesn't make her train or anything. He really wins by default for not being dead for the majority of his kids' childhoods.
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Feb 4, 2014 20:14
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Momomo posted:He really wins by default for not being dead for the majority of his kids' childhoods. Hmm, Krillin was probably dead for less time than Vegeta was in the Buu saga, lets put him in the running for best Dad. Though I don't know how good of a parent one could possibly be letting your daughter live in the same house as Master Roshi and Oolong, but 18 probably has put the fear of god into the more lecherous residents.
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Feb 4, 2014 20:27
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Beautiful Ninja posted:Hmm, Krillin was probably dead for less time than Vegeta was in the Buu saga, lets put him in the running for best Dad. Though I don't know how good of a parent one could possibly be letting your daughter live in the same house as Master Roshi and Oolong, but 18 probably has put the fear of god into the more lecherous residents. I'd say it's a guarantee that the other Kame House residents live in fear of 18. Even after she chills out post-Cell saga she seems like the type that wouldn't hesitate to end anyone who so much as looks at her little girl the wrong way. It really is  that Krillin managed to get the biggest catch of a wife in the world. Guy deserved it after all the poo poo he takes over the course of the series.
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Feb 4, 2014 20:42
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Zonekeeper posted:I'd say it's a guarantee that the other Kame House residents live in fear of 18. Even after she chills out post-Cell saga she seems like the type that wouldn't hesitate to end anyone who so much as looks at her little girl the wrong way. I can't help but wonder how TFS is going to handle that. I hope they flesh it out more than the actual series where he just kind of shows up married to her.
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Feb 4, 2014 20:45
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Esroc posted:I can't help but wonder how TFS is going to handle that. I hope they flesh it out more than the actual series where he just kind of shows up married to her. I kind of hope its more like she shows up married to him. Krillin Owned, semi-literally.
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Feb 4, 2014 20:57
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Blue Star posted:The original Dragon Ball definitely has some iconic music. You already listed all of my favs, but one piece of background music I like is this. It's such a great showdown theme and it even gets played a couple of times in DBZ, like when Gohan faces down Cell. To me, Gohans anger is one of the best Faulconer tracks, and I am not a fan of the dub score at all. Just how it starts off very quiet with the piano and then ramps up. I also love how it was used again here and there during the Boo saga.
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Feb 4, 2014 21:18
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Esroc posted:I can't help but wonder how TFS is going to handle that. I hope they flesh it out more than the actual series where he just kind of shows up married to her. Wasn't there a scene where she gave him a peck on the cheek before her official hero-turn? I like the idea of the counter getting confused at that point. Krillin got owned. But an attractive woman willingly kissed him. ERROR ERROR DOES NOT COMPUTE
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Feb 4, 2014 21:43
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Kuroyama posted:Wasn't there a scene where she gave him a peck on the cheek before her official hero-turn? I like the idea of the counter getting confused at that point. If I'm not mistaken, it should happen in the next Abridged episode when Krillin is left pissing himself after everyone else gets their asses kicked.
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Feb 4, 2014 22:15
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Kuroyama posted:Wasn't there a scene where she gave him a peck on the cheek before her official hero-turn? I like the idea of the counter getting confused at that point. Krillin Owns Count: 1
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Feb 4, 2014 22:15
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Doesn't she gain a soft spot for Krillin due to him not deactivating her when he could have?
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Feb 4, 2014 23:30
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crankdatbatman posted:Doesn't she gain a soft spot for Krillin due to him not deactivating her when he could have? That and later on she hears about how he protected her after Cell spit her up. Plus she witnessed him wishing to get her bomb removed. I can't stress enough how much I love Meredith McCoy's Eighteen. I won't defend most of the performances in the Z dub because a lot of them were sss but she was true quality as far as I'm concerned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug4MfzcC-jo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40hKzjiSUJ8 Whether it's that "I HATE YOU!!!" or the dry "look he noticed. How cute." God I love her. She even sang Eighteen's dub theme song.
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Feb 5, 2014 00:24
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That theme song is pretty cool, but it doesn't really seem to fit her character to be honest. It seems to fit a femme fatale like Catwoman better than #18 who was a straight up fighter and never really used her sexuality at any point. Was it even used during the show at any point out of interest?
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Feb 5, 2014 00:47
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Nah, I'm pretty sure that was unique to the album. It's kinda like how Heroic Trunks was only ever used in a Toonami preview and not in an actual DBZ episode. And yet there's a ton of variations of that song on the Faulconer OSTs because it's so goddam good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqHHuD_SeD0
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Feb 5, 2014 01:26
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tsob posted:That theme song is pretty cool, but it doesn't really seem to fit her character to be honest. It seems to fit a femme fatale like Catwoman better than #18 who was a straight up fighter and never really used her sexuality at any point. Was it even used during the show at any point out of interest? No, other than kissing Krillin in an attempt to scare him, she was pretty  about her sexuality. She just seemed angry and bored all the time and that was her primary motivation for doing anything. She also comments on how immature 17 is at times since he'd rather make a game of everything.
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Feb 5, 2014 02:21
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Well she is supposed to be a teenager, they are not usually very overtly sexual. Also it is a cartoon about people fighting and poo poo.
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bowmore posted:Well she is supposed to be a teenager, they are not usually very overtly sexual. Have you ever met/been a teenager?
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Feb 5, 2014 03:42
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Have you ever met/been a teenager?
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Feb 5, 2014 03:44
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bowmore posted:I meant in public Fair enough. I'm just... saiyan.
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Feb 5, 2014 03:50
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Fun trivia: 17 and 18 were just rear end in a top hat teenagers who ran away from home and were out wrecking things. Gero just happened across them and took the opportunity to kidnap them.
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Feb 5, 2014 05:38
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It's no "Cha La Head Cha La" but this isn't bad. Japanese DBZ music is really loving cool and didn't need to be replaced with some synth crap for the English dub, but Faulconer should be rewarded for doing his best.
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Feb 5, 2014 05:48
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I've never ever seen 17 and 18 as teens. They neither act nor look the part.
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Feb 5, 2014 05:51
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Dred Cosmonaut posted:I've never ever seen 17 and 18 as teens. They neither act nor look the part. By the time they meet Goku and friends, they're likely a few years older and far more bitter after being experimented and roboticized over the years.
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Feb 5, 2014 05:57
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None of teens looked like teens. Remember Gohan's high school? His "main rival" there was super beefed up and looked like he could've been Tien's fighting partner.
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Feb 5, 2014 06:04
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Yeah, characters never really looked as young as they were. Cell Games Gohan looks, aside from height, at least 4 years older than he actually is; I think Future Trunks is only supposed to be about 16 or 17 years old at that time, isn't he?
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Feb 5, 2014 06:15
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Tae posted:None of teens looked like teens. Remember Gohan's high school? His "main rival" there was super beefed up and looked like he could've been Tien's fighting partner. Pft, that's nothing. This is supposed to be a 13-year-old  It's even more offputting in GT where Goku is maybe 3/4 as tall as Pan and she's only supposed to be 10 or so. I was very confused about DB Goku's age for a very long time.
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Feb 5, 2014 06:18
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NikkolasKing posted:I was very confused about DB Goku's age for a very long time. To be fair, so was he.
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Feb 5, 2014 06:24
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NikkolasKing posted:Pft, that's nothing. This is supposed to be a 13-year-old I thought that was all explained as full-blooded Saiyan's aging slower than humans or half-breeds? A 13 year old Saiyan has the body of a toddler, a 25 year old Saiyan looks like he just hit puberty, and a 60 year old Saiyan looks like a college kid with a steroid habit.
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Feb 5, 2014 06:27
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Toriyama never really put reality in front of a gag. So Goku looking like a kid, but really being 13, was funny, so he did it that way, that's all. It made for gags like bathtime Bulma going from "aw he's just a confused little boy" to "RAPIST PERVERT TEENAGE BOY KILL HIM." And it was also an example of Toriyama's favorite joke, tiny little kid beating up big huge guys. 
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Feb 5, 2014 06:30
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Except Chi-Chi was the same age as Goku.
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Dred Cosmonaut posted:I've never ever seen 17 and 18 as teens. They neither act nor look the part. They were amoral runaways who were kidnapped, turned into cyborgs, and given superpowers greater than galactic tyrants and legendary warriors which their future selves proceeded use to kill a bunch of people, blow stuff up, and generally terrorize the populace for the next 20 or so years. Sounds like teens to me.
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Dred Cosmonaut posted:I've never ever seen 17 and 18 as teens. They neither act nor look the part. 17 literally wants to go joy riding instead of just flying to Goku's house. They then make a pitstop to get clothes after they beat up Vegeta and the gang for fun. Kild fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Feb 5, 2014 |
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I'm suprised Krillin didn't get into trouble for screwing an android. It's a good thing she's 18. Thank you, I'll be here all week 
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I'm surprised this hasn't been posted, but a recent interview with Akira Toriyama has been posted that reveals details about Goku's mother as well as his hopes for the next movie, if it's made. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/episode-bardock-akira-toriyama-super-qa/
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MooselanderII posted:I'm surprised this hasn't been posted, but a recent interview with Akira Toriyama has been posted that reveals details about Goku's mother as well as his hopes for the next movie, if it's made. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/episode-bardock-akira-toriyama-super-qa/ quote:Since Saiyans are supposed to have no affection for family or friends, does this actually make Vegeta, who holds his family and wife dear, an even stranger (kinder) Saiyan than Goku? So Vegeta IS actually the Dad of the Year, and Goku being a horrible husband and father is just a genetic  quote:About how many of Freeza’s race are there? Are they quite thriving, with a big population? I've thought this for a while, but I think Vegeta, Raditz etc aren't just talking poo poo when they say the saiyans are the strongest warrior race. The Ginyus, Freeza etc all seem to be insane mutant outliers (Ginyu says as much about his men). Saiyans, and to a lesser extent namekians, are the only species as a whole who seem to have widespread higher ki power. Easy to see why Freeza feared them. Rohan Kishibe fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Feb 5, 2014 |
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Aw man, does that make Cooler non-canon? (oh god, what am I doing, talking about Canon in the DBZ thread) Edit: On the other hand quote:As for Vegeta, in the event that there’s talk of another animated film, then next time, I’d like him to play the main role. (Of course, this is nothing more than intentions, and I haven’t decided anything at all.) THis will be enjoyable I'm sure. Shadowhand00 fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Feb 5, 2014 |
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Shadowhand00 posted:Aw man, does that make Cooler non-canon? (oh god, what am I doing, talking about Canon in the DBZ thread) I don't think any of the first 13 movies are technically "canon". Hell, you can only fit 3 of them into the continuity without any major contradictions between them and the main show since they take place during time skips. (Dead Zone: Between DB and DBZ; Bojack Unbound: during the timeskip after Cell; Wrath of the Dragon: the final timeskip post-Buu.)
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Zonekeeper posted:I don't think any of the first 13 movies are technically "canon". Hell, you can only fit 3 of them into the continuity without any major contradictions between them and the main show since they take place during time skips. (Dead Zone: Between DB and DBZ; Bojack Unbound: during the timeskip after Cell; Wrath of the Dragon: the final timeskip post-Buu.) Tree of Might fits in well as does World's Strongest (on the way to fight Raditz).
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Dead Zone has the small hiccup of everyone seeing Goku and knowing about Gohan before the start of the Saiyan Saga. Wrath of the Dragon technically fits, but it still doesn't make any drat sense because it tries to fit in an explanation of how Trunks got his sword, though you could just say that it isn't supposed to be the same sword and Trunks is just destined to be a sword guy like in Dragon Ball Online. Bojack is the only one I'd say that's purely without canon contradiction. The Broly movies too, but it strains my credibility to believe that Cell just ignored what was going on in the first one. Android 13 might be free of error too, but then it'd have to take place in the same ten day span as Broly, and it's further baffling for that to all take place in the same ten day time span. Especially if you had Return of Cooler, but it's out by virtue of Goku not being in control of the Super Sayian transformation while on Earth during the first Cooler movie. On the subject of the movies, I only just recently found out that Fusion Reborn was made in 1995. I knew we were getting DBZ late, but it never really occurred to me just how late.
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