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It's been a while since I watched through all of DS9 and TNG but I don't remember Keiko being that bad. I mean sure they fought, but isn't that normal? That said: Blade_of_tyshalle posted:
What the gently caress is this? <  > Keiko is a Ravenclaw - intellectual and irritable. Christ, even the quote they used in the image is pretty much the opposite of the affable Hufflepuff type. I mean obviously I obviously agree with her (gently caress your Prophets, Wynn), but she got her back up pretty quickly in that and every other conflict she was in.
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The Keiko-antipathy largely stems from TNG, where she could be a bit mean to O'Brien. She's actually not that bad on DS9, but then, that's really the pattern for TNG characters that become regular or recurring characters on that show isn't it?
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Feb 5, 2014 09:00
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Of what we've seen, especially in TNG, it's not an easy marriage. Not necessarily a bad one, but definitely not an easy one. I don't think they had a long engagement, and that usually spells trouble for me. How do you not know your S.O.'s preferred breakfast? Especially when you don't have to cook it. Blade's right that the difficulties make the relationship special, especially in the Star Trek universe. But still, from what you see, it's a rather antagonistic relationship, and it's not always Miles' fault. They love each other, but man do they fight like Cardassians and Bajorans sometimes.
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Feb 5, 2014 10:09
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Who wants a Terok Nor wall clock with convoluted viewing angles? http://technabob.com/blog/2014/02/03/star-trek-deep-space-nine-clock/
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Feb 5, 2014 10:38
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Gonz posted:Who wants a Terok Nor wall clock with convoluted viewing angles? Anyone could probably do this for way cheaper than $299 with a model kit of the station and a clock of your choice. Neat idea though.
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Feb 5, 2014 10:42
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Gonz posted:Who wants a Terok Nor wall clock with convoluted viewing angles? Wouldn't it turn into Empok Nor as soon as you hang it on a wall? 
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Feb 5, 2014 10:46
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Kekio isn't too bad. I agree with kelvron, but it's well within the bounds of normal. I can think of a friend who's wife loves to 'give poo poo', as we say in Australia, which basically means to insult you and make fun of you. She gives me poo poo as well as her husband and when I got fed up with it one day it was explained that she 'gives poo poo because she likes you, she wouldn't give you poo poo if she wasn't comfortable with you'. I've encountered this more than once with Aussie women. I don't like it and think it makes her a bit of retard, but it's just how she is. Kekio does a very benign and reserved version of this, which considering how gruff Miles can be at times, probably fits.
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Feb 5, 2014 11:25
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Tony Montana posted:it makes her a bit of retard Tony Montana posted:it's well within the bounds of normal
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Feb 5, 2014 14:33
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You just read it that way. I said Keiko isn't a bitch at all and she's pretty chill actually. As poo poo givers go she's really pretty meek. I don't think poo poo giving is such a great thing, and I think pretty dopey people often do it. Male or female, I don't care, if you have to pick at people to break the ice I think you're a bit poo poo yourself.
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Feb 5, 2014 14:54
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:How did moving to DS9 sabotage her career? I don't remember her going on away teams on the Enterprise. They couldn't set up an arboretum anywhere on that bigass space station? It's been awhile since I've seen first season DS9. Honestly, I have no idea how it does, but it does. This is said explicitly that her career has been sidelined by his accepting the posting, so thoroughly she tries to be a schoolteacher instead because there's nothing for her to do there. And Miles does indeed make for her an arboretum in one of the cargo bays. And none of it works, so their relationship slowly becomes poisonous and he winds up hunting down a fellowship on Bajor for her, which removes her from his life for months at a time.
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Feb 5, 2014 14:58
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Was it sidelined by moving to DS9, or by DS9 moving away from Bajor? I can imagine the original plan was her having a job with the ecological reconstruction of Bajor but then all of a sudden Bajor is a six hour runabout drive away instead of just beaming down.
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Feb 5, 2014 15:00
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It's still silly though, isn't it. You can take field trips to Bajor for a few days each month and gather samples and data and come home to the station to work on them each day and be with your family. With replication technology and data gathering abilities such as they have, you could have people anywhere in the Federation finding stuff on field trips and shooting you the info electronically that then you can work on. We do that now, a biologist can be in a University somewhere and get asked for their professional opinion on someone's project in the middle of nowhere remotely. Perhaps the Enterprise gave her the opportunity to be the first biologist on the ground when they ran into new stuff. A bit like Dian Fossey going and living in the jungle with the gorillas because she wants to be right there and apply her abilities as the stuff happens - real time. I don't remember Kekio being on many away teams, if any, in TNG though.. she seemed to chill on the ship.
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Feb 5, 2014 15:13
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The only bit I remember about Keiko was that episode with  Molly and the ending being them deciding to just send her back to her timeline instead of helping her adjust or something. I can't even remember that much so that must say something about her character.
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Feb 5, 2014 15:24
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Flipswitch posted:The only bit I remember about Keiko was that episode with Time's Orphan was too bizarre. What the hell were Keiko and O'Brien thinking. They are the worst parents.
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Feb 5, 2014 15:37
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Apple Jax posted:Time's Orphan was too bizarre. What the hell were Keiko and O'Brien thinking. They are the worst parents. The writers have admitted that the script kinda got away from them and kept going through different revisions and things made more ethical sense at one point and then it just morphed into the end product.
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Feb 5, 2014 15:40
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Time's Orphan, like a lot of Star Trek, wastes a perfectly good guest star in favor of having her do dumb feral poo poo on camera.
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Feb 5, 2014 16:09
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I think it would have been rad as gently caress if Molly had stayed damaged for the rest of the series.
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Feb 5, 2014 16:41
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Keiko is not bonkers, and it's honestly a little uncomfortable the way some people go overboard with that. No, she really is, though. She doesn't start that way. At first she's written as a "hilarious" nag wife for the working joe transporter chief, which makes you just want to punch the writers for making a "take my wife!" joke into a character, but the way that she says "Miy-ules!" and then yells at him in just about every episode featuring them together turns into a more manipulative, bordering on abusive spouse. Everything he does that doesn't fit in with her worldview of him is worthy of angry, derisive criticism.
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Bicyclops posted:No, she really is, though. She doesn't start that way. At first she's written as a "hilarious" nag wife for the working joe transporter chief, which makes you just want to punch the writers for making a "take my wife!" joke into a character, but the way that she says "Miy-ules!" and then yells at him in just about every episode featuring them together turns into a more manipulative, bordering on abusive spouse. Everything he does that doesn't fit in with her worldview of him is worthy of angry, derisive criticism. Keiko is really intolerable, and I hate the writers for portraying her in such a bad light. They still could have had conflict between her and Miles, without turning her into an over the top cartoon version of a annoying wife.
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Well you see Miles is Irish so he has a genetic predisposition to be miserable in life in all its aspects, including marriage. As a man of Irish descent, these are issues I deal with daily. True fact: my brother wanted to name one of his kids Miles, but his wife figured out that he was going to name him after a Star Trek character so she said no. Instead, he chose Colm. Crafty.
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Feb 5, 2014 17:48
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Keiko was pretty good when she called out Miles for being a racist bigot towards Cardassians, because you totally sided with her and she was right. But then there's that time when, a few hours after Miles gets home from spending subjective decades in prison, she acts exasperated and annoyed that he hasn't fully adjusted to life on the station yet.
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Feb 5, 2014 18:16
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There is a 9000% chance Kirayoshi ain't Miles's kid. "I'm home from months on Bajor and WHOOPS I'm pregnant from, uh, that one time I visited you ALSO we have to teleport the baby into Kira so if for any reason it comes out with some nose ridges that's why."
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Feb 5, 2014 18:42
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DirtyRobot posted:Keiko was pretty good when she called out Miles for being a racist bigot towards Cardassians, because you totally sided with her and she was right. In the 24th century, humanity has evolved beyond the need for therapy 
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Feb 5, 2014 18:45
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1st AD posted:In the 24th century, humanity has evolved beyond the need for therapy I contend The federation sent their worst psychologists out to DS9.
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Feb 5, 2014 18:49
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sonatinas posted:I contend The federation sent their worst psychologists out to DS9. Hey now, Ezri went to DS9 of her own volition 
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Feb 5, 2014 18:55
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Has anyone seen or read anything about the season 6 of TNG on Blu Ray? I have been searching but haven't turned up anything.
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Feb 5, 2014 20:31
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sonatinas posted:I contend The federation sent their worst psychologists out to DS9. I never saw Deanna Troi on DS9.
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Feb 5, 2014 20:52
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It turns out that Aatrek was single-handedly propping up Bluray sales and his departure from the online Trek community has tanked the entire project.
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Feb 5, 2014 21:01
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House of Quark S3 E3. Heh, after the great eps over the change of season this one is a bit more 'normal' Trek. Quark has married a Klingon woman who if she cut her hair and trimmed those eyebrows.. perhaps took a orbital sander to her forehead.. would be quite attractive. After the Keiko talk it's funny I've gotten this ep, this is the one where she closes the school and Miles is basically being the best husband ever while she sulks. I hope she appreciates it, he's just gotten permission from Sisko to make the arboretum in the cargo bay. We'll see..
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1st AD posted:It turns out that Aatrek was single-handedly propping up Bluray sales and his departure from the online Trek community has tanked the entire project.
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Feb 5, 2014 21:09
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Tony Montana posted:House of Quark S3 E3. House of Quark is a fantastic episode, I love it so much
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1st AD posted:It turns out that Aatrek was single-handedly propping up Bluray sales and his departure from the online Trek community has tanked the entire project. Yeah without slo mo montages of every effects sequence from every episode nobody knew what to buy
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I am very grateful for what you've done Quark.. which is why I'm going to allow you to take your hand off my thigh rather than shattering every bone in your body  ok this owns edit: omg Nog you loving little poo poo edit2: Klingon divorce is the best divorce. The crossing of the arms and everyone turning away from you in the Klingon council when you've been disgraced is one of the most comical things I've ever seen in Trek. loving Kaplah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ5TsoDDky4 the best part is that's it, paperwork has no honor. Tony Montana fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Feb 5, 2014 |
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I just heard about it on The Economist podcast, but here is a link from NASA directly.. 3D printing food in space. http://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/home/feature_3d_food_prt.htm What I heard about specifically was pizza, a 3D printer that made pizza. They were talking about the 3D printing 'killer app' on the podcast and how it could be food, rather than plastic and making lovely little versions of useful things. Our people on the Mission to Mars going to the food printer/REPLICATOR and asking for pizza? Next step is harvesting those skin cells getting caught in the air system and breaking that protein down to go back into the printer's stores?
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Feb 5, 2014 22:16
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Pizza will unite the quadrant.
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Feb 5, 2014 22:36
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sonatinas posted:Pizza will unite the quadrant. Pizza... and root beer.
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1st AD posted:It turns out that Aatrek was single-handedly propping up Bluray sales and his departure from the online Trek community has tanked the entire project. Ooooh, Rascals is coming out in Hi-Def. I know where my paycheck is going.
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Feb 5, 2014 23:38
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Patrick Stewart can't stay out of space:
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Feb 5, 2014 23:48
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Mister Kingdom posted:Patrick Stewart can't stay out of space: *tsk* Made in Britain 
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Tony Montana posted:Quark has married a Klingon woman who if she cut her hair and trimmed those eyebrows.. perhaps took a orbital sander to her forehead.. would be quite attractive. Yeah, Na'toth2 is pretty hot. For a while, I was convinced Divatox was First Na'toth, but she wasn't. She is a slutty augment in DS9, though
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