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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



AcidRonin posted:

It has a USB hookup in the arm wrest and my old Alpine unit in my last car had like an alphabetical artist parse function. Sorting through the maximum amount of music allowed on 2 ipods one artist at a time is a loving nightmare. OR i could just learn to love shuffle.

If you use playlists it's a lot more bearable. I rarely know what I'm going to be in the mood for when I'm driving so I just have the iPod running through the AUX input in the center armrest storage area and control it from the iPod rather than the head unit.

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AcidRonin
Apr 2, 2012

iM A ROOKiE RiGHT NOW BUT i PROMiSE YOU EVERY SiNGLE FUCKiN BiTCH ASS ARTiST WHO TRiES TO SHADE ME i WiLL VERBALLY DiSMANTLE YOUR ASSHOLE
At least the shuffle algorithm is better than the one on my old Alpine unit. Not like that's hard. Do love being part of the WRX club though. The wave takes some getting used too.

THE BLACK NINJA
Mar 9, 2010
Hey guys, been a while. Got a problem with a Subaru.

2001 outback limited 5 sp won't start. Battery is fine, starter seems good. It tries to turn over but simply will not, which makes me think spark is ok. The issue started while it was warming up; about two minutes after starting and sitting in a very cold lot it just died. No catastrophic noises. Started back up, ran for ten sec, then died. Now it will not run at all.

I looked at what the Internet says are "typical" vacuum line issues and they seem fine, plus I don't think problems with those would manifest like this anyway. I'm thinking fuel pump casualty to cold weather and 150k miles. Any way to easily check whether or not I'm on the right track? Is it a fairly straightforward repair? Any other thoughts?

Thanks as always guys!

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Put the key to ON and listen for the fuel pump. It's quite audible and emits a whine that reminds me of small power tools.

If you don't hear the fuel pump, your next step is to locate the fuel pump relay and inspect it for functionality. Sometimes a dying fuel pump can overheat the fuel pump relay by trying to draw too much current, so after you replace the fuel pump relay it will let you limp home. This is rare.

However, at your car's age it is probably the pump, especially if the car is run low often; replace the fuel pump and filter.

Good luck dude.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Just to add to that, get a buddy (or a fuckin' buddy if you're in Canada) to cycle the key to 'on' when you're at the fuse box with a finger on the fuel pump relay to feel if it clicks or not (it should). Also, do the same thing with your ear to the gas filling opening (with the fuel cap off) to hear if the pump turns on.

Aflicted
Jun 9, 2007
2015 Legacy gets unveiled this week for those that are interested. I just got the notice in my email.

https://www.subaru.com/auto-show/chicago-2014.html

Neptr
Mar 1, 2011

THE BLACK NINJA posted:

Hey guys, been a while. Got a problem with a Subaru.

2001 outback limited 5 sp won't start. Battery is fine, starter seems good. It tries to turn over but simply will not, which makes me think spark is ok. The issue started while it was warming up; about two minutes after starting and sitting in a very cold lot it just died. No catastrophic noises. Started back up, ran for ten sec, then died. Now it will not run at all.

I looked at what the Internet says are "typical" vacuum line issues and they seem fine, plus I don't think problems with those would manifest like this anyway. I'm thinking fuel pump casualty to cold weather and 150k miles. Any way to easily check whether or not I'm on the right track? Is it a fairly straightforward repair? Any other thoughts?

Thanks as always guys!

No check engine light? No start with no check engine light seems like a fuel pump problem to me too.

DEUCE SLUICE
Feb 6, 2004

I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

Aflicted posted:

2015 Legacy gets unveiled this week for those that are interested. I just got the notice in my email.

https://www.subaru.com/auto-show/chicago-2014.html

It leaked: http://www.autoblog.com/2014/02/04/2015-subaru-legacy-leaked-chicago/

Pretty conservative but overall looks fine.

THE BLACK NINJA
Mar 9, 2010
Thanks everyone. I'll check the pump today after work and will almost definitely have more questions.

Aflicted
Jun 9, 2007

Well now I can cancel that meeting on my work calendar. Actually I will leave it. It will he a nice break.

It looks good to me, I hope it translates as well in person. Some of the design features feel stolen from Ford and there are little cues from my wife's outback in there. Also that steering wheel has more buttons than a loving playstation controller now. Jesus.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

My first reaction to your post was"how much oil". I own too many Subaru s

dayman
Mar 12, 2009

Is it a yes, or...



Why wait for it when you can get one now for only 239/month!

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

Ok, now make a wagon, possibly with GT attached to it.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Ugh, really can't decide what to do with my WRX. I know if I sell it this soon after buying it I'll take a hit, but at the same time, it's not like it's going up in value. I could start trying to rectify the things I don't like about it (lack of performance and the handling), but then I'm just spending more money with no guarantee it'll achieve what I want. Arse.

VacaGrande
Dec 24, 2003
God! A red nugget! A fat egg under a dog!
2012+ Imprezas. WHAT'S THE DEAL?

My wife is replacing her car, our only car, in the coming weeks. Whatever we get will be a hatchback with a manual transmission, that's required (yes she's great). It'll primarily be a commuter car for her with the occasional weekend trip to the mountains with a bunch of bikes on top for me. The contenders are the Mazda3, Focus, and the Impreza. I like the Impreza because it's a little bigger, I like the looks, it's a plus having AWD for those mountain trips, and of course we have lots of bikes and a dog so Subaru. Are there any issues that have come up with them? Anyone have one and can give me a nutshell opinion?

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



VacaGrande posted:

2012+ Imprezas. WHAT'S THE DEAL?

My wife is replacing her car, our only car, in the coming weeks. Whatever we get will be a hatchback with a manual transmission, that's required (yes she's great). It'll primarily be a commuter car for her with the occasional weekend trip to the mountains with a bunch of bikes on top for me. The contenders are the Mazda3, Focus, and the Impreza. I like the Impreza because it's a little bigger, I like the looks, it's a plus having AWD for those mountain trips, and of course we have lots of bikes and a dog so Subaru. Are there any issues that have come up with them? Anyone have one and can give me a nutshell opinion?
I have a 2012 base model hatch. The passenger airbag sensor needs to be replaced on some of them with one calibrated to not turn off when a cellphone is plugged in and sitting on the seat or the passenger is sweaty. Otherwise I'm not aware of any endemic issues. I do however need to figure out why outside air seems to come in via the glove box.

Barring those issues I couldn't be happier with the car. It doesn't have the power of a wrx obviously but if you delay your upshifting you can get up to interstate speeds faster than the idiots in front of you on the on-ramp anyway.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
I think crosstreks are pretty cool, and the new engines are probably better than the ej.

VacaGrande
Dec 24, 2003
God! A red nugget! A fat egg under a dog!

Totally TWISTED posted:

It doesn't have the power of a wrx obviously but if you delay your upshifting you can get up to interstate speeds faster than the idiots in front of you on the on-ramp anyway.

Her current car is a Scion xA. Almost anything is going to feel like light speed in comparison. I love fast, loud cars, I've always worked on my cars, but these days I don't drive to work and we live in the middle of a big city with street parking. I do want it to be at least fun to drive though. The Scion was hers before we moved here, at which time I sold my fun car, so this time I get a say in it.

VacaGrande fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Feb 5, 2014

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde
Now that the '99 Forester is back on the road it's time to start sorting out some of the suspension issues it has. The rear trailing arm bushings are toast, in fact let's just go ahead and say that every rubber component of the suspension is long past its due date. The shocks are also very worn and don't do much, the ball-joints are collapsing, yadda yadda. This is going to be far too expensive to do all in one go, so I'm curious what my best bang-for-the-buck option is for tightening up the suspension. I know the rear bushings will make a huge improvement in how this thing drives, right now it's kinda squirrelly in corners and lurches off the line or under braking.

Which reminds me, the rear brakes are trash, going to slap some Centric rotors and Stoptech pads on to match the front.

The exhaust developed a leak at the flange where the header attaches to the catalytic converter, it wasn't difficult to fix but listening to a growly flat 4 for a few days reminded me how loving good these cars sound when they can breath a bit. I'm kind of curious what my options are for a cat-back or something to make it sound a bit better.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
I can definitely help with some of that. I think tic street bushings are cheaper than group n, but maybe finding used arms in better condition would work better.

Amandyke
Nov 27, 2004

A wha?

InitialDave posted:

Ugh, really can't decide what to do with my WRX. I know if I sell it this soon after buying it I'll take a hit, but at the same time, it's not like it's going up in value. I could start trying to rectify the things I don't like about it (lack of performance and the handling), but then I'm just spending more money with no guarantee it'll achieve what I want. Arse.

Define lack of performance... For the price of a downpipe, 3" cat back exhaust and a tune (even an OTS) you can make 300 AWHP from most any 2011+ WRX. Cobb has a fancy kit for $2,750 with more parts than what you would actually need.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Mine's a 2006 UK model. It doesn't give the kind of shove that I want when you floor it - acceleration in anything higher than first has that feel of "oh COME ON you bastard" when you're coming out of corners and roundabouts. It's ok, but it doesn't really correspond to the fuel economy etc of the car. On the handling front, it's too understeery, there isn't a lot of feedback, and it feels like you're having to bully the car around rather than working with it. You can make good progress, but it's not fun. Ride isn't wonderful either, even with new dampers.

Best way I can describe it is that it feels like a teenager's idea of what a performance car should be like. The (rather knackered 60bhp base model) Clio is more enjoyable to razz around.

I could try and solve this stuff, but I think the minimum would be an exhaust, tune, ALK and decent tyres, and that's a speculative expenditure of at least another grand, and I'm not sure I'll end up with what I want at the end of it. That's why I'm thinking I may be better to cut my losses.

Buying the car was a certain amount of "well, let's get one and see what they're like", so it's not entirely off-plan, but I'm still a little irritated that the car's not grown on me like I hoped it would. I am left genuinely mystified by why they have such a good reputation, and are spoken well of by people whose opinions on cars I generally respect and find myself agreeing with.

Amandyke
Nov 27, 2004

A wha?

InitialDave posted:

Mine's a 2006 UK model. It doesn't give the kind of shove that I want when you floor it - acceleration in anything higher than first has that feel of "oh COME ON you bastard" when you're coming out of corners and roundabouts. It's ok, but it doesn't really correspond to the fuel economy etc of the car. On the handling front, it's too understeery, there isn't a lot of feedback, and it feels like you're having to bully the car around rather than working with it. You can make good progress, but it's not fun. Ride isn't wonderful either, even with new dampers.

Best way I can describe it is that it feels like a teenager's idea of what a performance car should be like. The (rather knackered 60bhp base model) Clio is more enjoyable to razz around.

I could try and solve this stuff, but I think the minimum would be an exhaust, tune, ALK and decent tyres, and that's a speculative expenditure of at least another grand, and I'm not sure I'll end up with what I want at the end of it. That's why I'm thinking I may be better to cut my losses.

Buying the car was a certain amount of "well, let's get one and see what they're like", so it's not entirely off-plan, but I'm still a little irritated that the car's not grown on me like I hoped it would. I am left genuinely mystified by why they have such a good reputation, and are spoken well of by people whose opinions on cars I generally respect and find myself agreeing with.

Likely an alignment will help alleviate some of those handling issues. Honestly even a stage 1 basic reflash will perk the car right up. Boost will come in faster and higher than stock. You would be slightly limited by the TD-04 in terms of top end power, but in terms of throttle response, you should be off the line in a hurry with that stock turbo. If the car feels doggish, I'd be concerned that there is something mechanically wrong. Perhaps a boost leak?

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
It's had a visit to a local specialist, and the angles are what they should be, and apparently the car is generally "right".

mulligan
Jul 4, 2008

I typed random avatar and this happened.

blindjoe posted:

If you want a used stock catless uppipe, I have one I am selling.
Then get whatever goodies from jamal.

Hey I'd be interested

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

Totally TWISTED posted:

I have a 2012 base model hatch. The passenger airbag sensor needs to be replaced on some of them with one calibrated to not turn off when a cellphone is plugged in and sitting on the seat or the passenger is sweaty. Otherwise I'm not aware of any endemic issues. I do however need to figure out why outside air seems to come in via the glove box.

Barring those issues I couldn't be happier with the car. It doesn't have the power of a wrx obviously but if you delay your upshifting you can get up to interstate speeds faster than the idiots in front of you on the on-ramp anyway.

The cabin air filter is behind the glove box, check there.


I have a 2012 sport premium hatch 5 speed. I like it. Its good on gas and drives through everything. Its very roomy and has great visibility. The headlights are the best I've ever had on a car. The power isn't going to impress you, but its adequate. There is enough there to merge onto highways and get up hills. The brakes are very good, and the ABS isn't intrusive. The suspension feels pretty good.


Cons - stock tires are complete garbage in wet or snow. The paint on the bumper chips very easily. Seats aren't the greatest for long trips.


If the XV had been available when I needed to buy a car, I would have gotten that. More ground clearance and a stiffer body + suspension, and its allowed to tow up to 1000lbs I think. However, I've had the Impreza with 2 kayaks on the roof and the cargo area fully loaded, and it did fine.

TheFargate
Oct 6, 2007
So I called a local tire place today and got a quote on some general altimax arctics. Told em the size and he gave me a good price and ordered them. Only looking now at the sizes that they make the tire in the only one close to my stock size is 235/55R17. My question is will these things fit? I did a quick google search and only found a single thread on nasioc that says no. Just want to double check before i call the place up and see. This is a 2013 wrx sedan.

Edit: called them back and he claims he ordered 235/45R17. Which is weird because tire rack doesnt list one.

TheFargate fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Feb 5, 2014

blindjoe
Jan 10, 2001

mulligan posted:

Hey I'd be interested

message me at kevin.t.clark @ gmail

blindjoe
Jan 10, 2001

InitialDave posted:

Mine's a 2006 UK model. It doesn't give the kind of shove that I want when you floor it - acceleration in anything higher than first has that feel of "oh COME ON you bastard" when you're coming out of corners and roundabouts. It's ok, but it doesn't really correspond to the fuel economy etc of the car. On the handling front, it's too understeery, there isn't a lot of feedback, and it feels like you're having to bully the car around rather than working with it. You can make good progress, but it's not fun. Ride isn't wonderful either, even with new dampers.

Best way I can describe it is that it feels like a teenager's idea of what a performance car should be like. The (rather knackered 60bhp base model) Clio is more enjoyable to razz around.

I could try and solve this stuff, but I think the minimum would be an exhaust, tune, ALK and decent tyres, and that's a speculative expenditure of at least another grand, and I'm not sure I'll end up with what I want at the end of it. That's why I'm thinking I may be better to cut my losses.

Buying the car was a certain amount of "well, let's get one and see what they're like", so it's not entirely off-plan, but I'm still a little irritated that the car's not grown on me like I hoped it would. I am left genuinely mystified by why they have such a good reputation, and are spoken well of by people whose opinions on cars I generally respect and find myself agreeing with.

I had the same feeling with mine until it had STi springs, and the 207.
Stock and worn out, they are slower than minivans, and need some work to get fun.
So, sell it and get a minivan.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

InitialDave posted:

Mine's a 2006 UK model. It doesn't give the kind of shove that I want when you floor it - acceleration in anything higher than first has that feel of "oh COME ON you bastard" when you're coming out of corners and roundabouts. It's ok, but it doesn't really correspond to the fuel economy etc of the car. On the handling front, it's too understeery, there isn't a lot of feedback, and it feels like you're having to bully the car around rather than working with it. You can make good progress, but it's not fun. Ride isn't wonderful either, even with new dampers.

Best way I can describe it is that it feels like a teenager's idea of what a performance car should be like. The (rather knackered 60bhp base model) Clio is more enjoyable to razz around.

I could try and solve this stuff, but I think the minimum would be an exhaust, tune, ALK and decent tyres, and that's a speculative expenditure of at least another grand, and I'm not sure I'll end up with what I want at the end of it. That's why I'm thinking I may be better to cut my losses.

Buying the car was a certain amount of "well, let's get one and see what they're like", so it's not entirely off-plan, but I'm still a little irritated that the car's not grown on me like I hoped it would. I am left genuinely mystified by why they have such a good reputation, and are spoken well of by people whose opinions on cars I generally respect and find myself agreeing with.

I had a lot of problems with my relatively knackered 06 and never really got to grips with it either, but some maintenance did help.

I would probably start with a rear sway bar and get a downpipe and tune - I never put a downpipe on my car and after driving other 06s with one holy poo poo do I ever regret that.

Stockish alignments are also not what you want - there are some aggressive alignments (I ran zero toe and as much negative camber as I could) which make the car much more responsive - you still get the inherent power understeer but you can control your corner position better with the throttle and turn-in is much improved.

What tires do you have now?

saint gerald
Apr 17, 2003
My quest for a nice used WRX continues. What are the danger spots for a stock 2004 with ~93,000 miles?

tangy yet delightful
Sep 13, 2005



FogHelmut posted:

The cabin air filter is behind the glove box, check there.

I actually replaced this at the recommended interval last year I think? But yeah I'll have to scope that out. Main reason I haven't looked at it yet is that I hardly ever have a passenger and I am lazy.

On the seats I have done 4x 8-10 hour drives and found them great but then again I usually do long hauls in a E-350. Passengers had no complaints though, of course seats are very subjective anyway.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Yeah, the alignment being "in spec" is generally not good for handling. My car is currently at -2.6 degrees of camber up front and -1.5 in the rear. Plus I have stiffer struts/springs, swaybars, and bushings everywhere. I will concede that the alignment is a little overkill in the front and I get a little extra inside wear, but having a little extra front camber really makes the car turn better.

So anyway, basics would be alignment and a little more rear swaybar. Some cars come with a 20mm rear bar stock and that is a much better combination than the stock 13 and 17mm bars.

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari

saint gerald posted:

My quest for a nice used WRX continues. What are the danger spots for a stock 2004 with ~93,000 miles?

My stock 2004 has a spun rod bearing, so that's one.

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
I would shoot for low miles and try to get one with a 2.5 (06+) vs the 2.0, and make sure most of the service has been done, and get a leakdown test before buying it.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

blindjoe posted:

I had the same feeling with mine until it had STi springs, and the 207.
Stock and worn out, they are slower than minivans, and need some work to get fun.
So, sell it and get a minivan.
Wouldn't putting STi spring make it ride worse, though?

Seat Safety Switch posted:

I had a lot of problems with my relatively knackered 06 and never really got to grips with it either, but some maintenance did help.
I don't think it's particularly tired or anything, like I said, I had someone check over it, and it's pretty much ship-shape.

Seat Safety Switch posted:

I would probably start with a rear sway bar and get a downpipe and tune - I never put a downpipe on my car and after driving other 06s with one holy poo poo do I ever regret that.
If I put a downpipe on it, wouldn't it remove the cat? I can't really do that. Besides, a downpipe, tune and rear anti-roll bar would stand me about £800-900. This is what causes me the dilemma, I would in many ways rather lose some money selling it than throw good money after bad and lose even more if I still don't like it. I also really don't want to have a modified car, the entire point of the exercise of buying it was that it'd give me something that did what I wanted out the box.

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Stockish alignments are also not what you want - there are some aggressive alignments (I ran zero toe and as much negative camber as I could) which make the car much more responsive - you still get the inherent power understeer but you can control your corner position better with the throttle and turn-in is much improved.
That sounds pretty much like what I've got - I think it's on minimal toe, and has maxed-out standard camber bolts. It's better, and I can make the car do roughly what I want through left-foot braking, but it takes effort. It feels like a FWD car rather than the "docile RWD" I want from AWD.

Seat Safety Switch posted:

What tires do you have now?
Some Nexen Wingaurd winter tyres, which are definitely a budget option, and ideally I'd replace them with some Goodyear Assymetric 2s. The Nexens are what it came with, and I didn't want to replace winter tyres with summers in December! Also, speculative expenditure again.

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

Totally TWISTED posted:

I actually replaced this at the recommended interval last year I think? But yeah I'll have to scope that out. Main reason I haven't looked at it yet is that I hardly ever have a passenger and I am lazy.

On the seats I have done 4x 8-10 hour drives and found them great but then again I usually do long hauls in a E-350. Passengers had no complaints though, of course seats are very subjective anyway.

I haven't done anything that long, but numerous 3-4 hour drives. There's just nothing in the lumbar region, it makes me think I'm an old man or something.

blindjoe
Jan 10, 2001
I installed my STi springs at the same time as Koni's, but the stock WRX springs was very high and floaty.
I also did an anti-lift kit and com-c strut tops all at the same time, so I had loads of caster and camber.

Ok, so I did more than just Sti springs.
But it made it feel like a sports car instead of a camry.

saint gerald
Apr 17, 2003
Here's an '08 STi. Is that water/meth in the trunk? And a FMIC, aftermarket exhaust manifold, and CAI?


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jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
That car definitely has at least one cracked ringland.

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