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Radio Help posted:Find yourself a reputable guitar tech/luthier who can put in a bridge truss, fix your action and redress your frets. Most of those old Martins need a lot of work just due to being fogies, but they're worth putting the money into. I played on a 1890's Washburn parlor guitar a few weeks ago that had just been reworked, and it was a generally amazing experience. Washburns from that era aren't even all that great, either. This guitar doesn't need a bridge truss. It doesn't even need a fret dressing. What is needs (apart from a complete cosmetic restoration) is a neck reset and a new bridge piece. That's a lot. The bridge piece needs to be restored. The neck needs to be reset. The frets are tiny but authentic and level. The pickguards, well... what can I say? I would do anything to have the instrument restored, and those pickguards have to go. But even with Martin's lifetime warranty I probably can't do anything about that. Grandad would have had to do it, and he died two years ago. Like I said, it's an heirloom, not an investment. I cherish it regardless. It may be a bitch and a half to play, but goddamn that 76 year old instrument sounds AMAZING. It isn't my fault Dad hosed it over. I wouldn't let anyone less than a Martin employee even touch it, much less work on it, no matter the cost.
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Thumposaurus posted:That's a Billy Gibbons thing, still not that cool but at least it has a reason. the neck pickup route on a tele is the best place to hide drugs (behind a pickguard with no neck pup route of course), and i couldn't recommend more converting a tele into an esquire explicitly for that purpose. think of the tone, etc.
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Dr. Faustus posted:I wouldn't let anyone less than a Martin employee even touch it, much less work on it, no matter the cost. That's your call to make but Martin probably won't help you out on that front. chances are good there are at least a few luthiers in your area who'd be more than happy to help you restore a sentimental guitar, though. (first year Roberto-Venn graduate != skilled dude who does it for fun) Most guitars from that era can benefit a bridge truss just due to the fact that 70+ years of string tension will cause even the sturdiest top to bow a bit at the bridge. it has a pretty profound effect on the action on old guitars Radio Help fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Feb 7, 2014 |
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Feb 7, 2014 10:11
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Radio Help posted:I don't think I've ever seen a mid 70's SG that wasn't cherry red Fun fact: Calling an red SG "Candy Apple Red" will make Gibson fan-boys poo poo out a kidney in rage. Dr. Faustus posted:No argument here. Remember, this happened before I was even born. Probably shouldn't weigh-in as I generally avoid acoustics (apart from the odd fret dress or new nut), but with old acoustics it's not about what you think needs doing, it's ALL about what the luthier/restorer thinks. Old acoustics have a LOT of nasty problems that will be nearly un-noticeable until they cause the guitar to self destruct. You should at least get a quote otherwise you might wake up one day to find that the strings are pulling the neck off the body or the soundboard decided to break in half.
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Feb 7, 2014 10:16
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White Dog Eggs posted:Fun fact: Calling an red SG "Candy Apple Red" will make Gibson fan-boys poo poo out a kidney in rage. poo poo now that I think about it, there's a 80/20 split between cherry red and that slightly reddish-brown color Zappa used.
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Feb 7, 2014 10:20
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White Dog Eggs posted:Nice! I've never heard of mixing poly and oil, tbh I learned what I know about finishing from a retired cabinet finisher who doesn't quite know as much as he thinks he does, I really need to learn more. Not tried seal-a-sell or arm-a-coat as I tend to use boiled linseed oil and mix my own Danish Oil. Brazilian cherry is Jatoba, right? And that doesn't look right for Jatoba. It really looks like mahogany, any chance it is?
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Feb 7, 2014 10:46
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Tempus Fugit posted:Brazilian cherry is Jatoba, right? And that doesn't look right for Jatoba. It really looks like mahogany, any chance it is? I don't think it's mahogany, it's closed grain and has a very faint sweet smell when cut (different that rosewood, it's kind of hard to describe). It's also stupidly hard, it's somewhere between purpleheart and ebony in hardness but without being brittle as either of those, it's also a bit heavier than those. Takes a stain lovely too. It's a proper mystery to me and the guy who I brought it from hasn't seen it since. Stuff blunted my saw pretty good too. Barnaby Rudge fucked around with this message at 11:14 on Feb 7, 2014 |
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Feb 7, 2014 11:06
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fyodor posted:Browsing ebay for "relic guitar" is hilarious/depraved. I dunno, I kinda like this, probably as it's so badly relic'd, it's completely gently caress all like a relic it's more like a really abstract oil painting or something
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Feb 7, 2014 11:08
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Oops, missed thiscomes along bort posted:true but it's like 10 minutes of effort so Trust me, that's 10 minutes more effort than 85% of guitarists will put in. I make most of my money from restringing, to put things in perspective. I restring guitars for this one guy at least once a week (he likes new strings before he plays a gig). No idea why he can't do it himself but I'm not complaining.
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Feb 7, 2014 14:42
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Dr. Faustus posted:Y'all! I'm a HUGE guitar nerd! Look! hey man quick q why is your taste in guitars so mind-bendingly awful
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Feb 7, 2014 14:51
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Radio Help posted:That's your call to make but Martin probably won't help you out on that front. chances are good there are at least a few luthiers in your area who'd be more than happy to help you restore a sentimental guitar, though. (first year Roberto-Venn graduate != skilled dude who does it for fun) Most guitars from that era can benefit a bridge truss just due to the fact that 70+ years of string tension will cause even the sturdiest top to bow a bit at the bridge. it has a pretty profound effect on the action on old guitars Martin would definitely help him out on it, but it would likely be extremely expensive. My understanding is that even if you have access to the lifetime warranty they will only do one free neck set, and surely after 75 years that guitar has already had one (or several). But Martin is great about working on their old guitars, and they do really nice work.
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Feb 7, 2014 15:20
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White Dog Eggs posted:Nice! I've never heard of mixing poly and oil, tbh I learned what I know about finishing from a retired cabinet finisher who doesn't quite know as much as he thinks he does, I really need to learn more. Not tried seal-a-sell or arm-a-coat as I tend to use boiled linseed oil and mix my own Danish Oil. What I'm referring to specifically is the idea that guitars with neck pickups interfere with the string's vibrations because of the magnetic pull. It sounds like snake oil nonsense but just plausible enough to question
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Feb 7, 2014 15:53
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Declan MacManus posted:What I'm referring to specifically is the idea that guitars with neck pickups interfere with the string's vibrations because of the magnetic pull. It sounds like snake oil nonsense but just plausible enough to question Ohhh, errrm, I guess it's possible? It's not something I've ever noticed in all honesty. Perhaps if the pickups used powerful magnets it'd be more noticable. I'll have to experiment with that at some point. ps I think you quoted the wrong post.
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Feb 7, 2014 16:37
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Declan MacManus posted:What I'm referring to specifically is the idea that guitars with neck pickups interfere with the string's vibrations because of the magnetic pull. It sounds like snake oil nonsense but just plausible enough to question
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Feb 7, 2014 16:39
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iostream.h posted:Just adjust them closer to the strings while you play, you'll hear the difference soon enough, it's pretty noticeable. Oh ffs, why didn't I think of this. It is pretty noticeable, so yea, I guess it does! Probably should have known that. Arses. Now I just feel foolish.
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Feb 7, 2014 16:46
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it appears i am condemned to a life of juniors for the tonezz
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Feb 7, 2014 16:56
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 Someone posted this guitar while I was catching up on the thread, and I had to come to its defense. This guitar is awesome because it has a history for everything that happened to it. And the dark bare wood isn't "sweat stains" as someone tried to claim. It's from a fire.
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Feb 7, 2014 17:22
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Koth posted:
Still ugly though.
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Feb 7, 2014 17:33
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White Dog Eggs posted:Still ugly though. Maybe at first. I think it's pretty cool now.
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Feb 7, 2014 17:37
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what about the supposed lack of string pull on lace sensors tho?
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Fax Sender posted:what about the supposed lack of string pull on lace sensors tho?
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Feb 7, 2014 18:53
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White Dog Eggs posted:I don't think it's mahogany, it's closed grain and has a very faint sweet smell when cut (different that rosewood, it's kind of hard to describe). It's also stupidly hard, it's somewhere between purpleheart and ebony in hardness but without being brittle as either of those, it's also a bit heavier than those. Takes a stain lovely too. It's a proper mystery to me and the guy who I brought it from hasn't seen it since. That sounds almost like Cumaru, what they sometimes call brazilian teak. It's reddish brown, heavy and dense as poo poo, murder on tools, soaks up oil really well and is drat near indestructible. Any chance that the plank you had was originally destined for a deck plank?
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Feb 7, 2014 19:46
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Beautiful; what's wrong with a simple and elegant design?
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Feb 7, 2014 22:01
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Sire Oblivion posted:Beautiful; what's wrong with a simple and elegant design? Tryhard racist buckethead-fanboy gently caress of a pretentiously over-priced over-constructed parlor guitar? I love the shape, but perhaps you are the kind of color-blind that is blind to the fact that everything is creamy white-chocolate colored?
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Feb 7, 2014 22:05
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As opposed to everything being a shade of brown like typical acoustics?
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Feb 7, 2014 22:08
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Sire Oblivion posted:Beautiful; what's wrong with a simple and elegant design? I'm going to have to agree. That guitar is pretty.
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Feb 7, 2014 22:16
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Cobalt60 posted:Tryhard racist buckethead-fanboy gently caress of a pretentiously over-priced over-constructed parlor guitar? haha what? is there a story behind this completely unremarkable-looking parlor?  pew pew pew
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Feb 7, 2014 22:23
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Cobalt60 posted:Tryhard racist buckethead-fanboy gently caress of a pretentiously over-priced over-constructed parlor guitar? someone's either got a good story or a bug up his butt about white guitars
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Feb 7, 2014 22:46
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Dewgy posted:someone's either got a good story or a bug up his butt about white guitars my sister was raped by eddie van halen's backup guitar no not that one the other one
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Sire Oblivion posted:Beautiful; what's wrong with a simple and elegant design? looks like it was made with a 3d printer
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Feb 7, 2014 23:04
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anyone who thinks this is even remotely okay doesn't play guitar why would you have all those extra frets you can't even reach them because there's no cutwaway unless you're doing some finger tapping poo poo, which would be weird but not out of the question on a classical guitar...
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Feb 7, 2014 23:06
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Tempus Fugit posted:That sounds almost like Cumaru, what they sometimes call brazilian teak. It's reddish brown, heavy and dense as poo poo, murder on tools, soaks up oil really well and is drat near indestructible. Any chance that the plank you had was originally destined for a deck plank? I googled up Cumaru and that sounds spot on! Apparently it's piss cheap too which is good because it's awesome for fretboards .I actually got it for free with a load of tajuta and purpleheart timber (laminated them to make necks) that I got cheap as it was left over from a boat-build, not sure if that's the kind of deck plank you meant, it's pretty oily so I'd imagine it'd be awesome for boats. Anyways, thanks! I've been wanting more of this wood for ages. You are awesome. One commission, somesone else seriously interested and I found out what that mystery wood was. I love this thread. Eh, I kind of like this. Fretboard is a bit silly though.
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Feb 7, 2014 23:14
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GOT A EXTRA TITTY posted:anyone who thinks this is even remotely okay doesn't play guitar I was a Classical Guitar major in college and several of the performers in our concert series had those higher frets, but they were basically seldom used. When you're playing that high on a classical your fretting hand changes technique but it's possible to play that high up.
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Feb 7, 2014 23:22
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Sire Oblivion posted:I was a Classical Guitar major in college and several of the performers in our concert series had those higher frets, but they were basically seldom used. When you're playing that high on a classical your fretting hand changes technique but it's possible to play that high up. Fair enough, I've never taken any formal classical lessons, so I thought it was more for looks than functionality
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Feb 7, 2014 23:24
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bridge pins, wound 3rd string? that's steel string bro.
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Feb 7, 2014 23:25
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mclast posted:bridge pins, wound 3rd string? that's steel string bro. did not see the wound 3rd, i just assumed it was already an abortion of a guitar, now i'm curious what its for
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Also, in the video of a guy playing that guitar, it looks like it actually does have a gloss finish of some kind on the body even if it looks unfinished in most of the pictures: http://www.dreamguitars.com/detail/3540-ivanov_snow_parlor_3/#full
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