|
It's almost like they release things cyclically to drive up demand....
|
#
?
Feb 6, 2014 21:58
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 8, 2024 15:12 |
|
|
Arquinsiel posted:It's almost like they release things cyclically to drive up demand.... I read that as cynically and got confused. Yeah, that makes sense, but it's objectively bad for the fans.
|
|
#
?
Feb 6, 2014 22:00
|
|
|
Baron Bifford posted:Try Fire Caste by Peter Fehervari. That's actually what I was hoping the story would be! Still got a few interesting scenes near the end when the soldiers were faking interest in The Greater Good, but I'm holding out for a story less based on the Imperium side of things. I'll probably be holding out for a while. 
|
|
#
?
Feb 6, 2014 22:02
|
|
|
Noctis Horrendae posted:I read that as cynically and got confused. Yeah, that makes sense, but it's objectively bad for the fans.
|
|
#
?
Feb 6, 2014 22:07
|
|
|
I'd love a book about the Newcrons. I mean, it'd be Game of Thrones. In space. With robots instead of rape.
|
|
#
?
Feb 6, 2014 22:24
|
|
|
Saith posted:I'd love a book about the Newcrons. I mean, it'd be Game of Thrones. In space. With robots instead of rape. Oh please, we all learned last year that Robots can rape. I mean, that's what happened in Boston.
|
|
#
?
Feb 6, 2014 23:02
|
|
|
Arquinsiel posted:You... you have heard about GW, right? No, I live in a fantasy world in which GW actually cares about its consumers and makes quality miniatures for reasonable prices.
|
|
#
?
Feb 6, 2014 23:13
|
|
|
The second Sisters of Battle book by James Swallow had some interesting Necron characterization. Hammer and Anvil I think?
|
|
#
?
Feb 6, 2014 23:16
|
|
|
Hammer and Anvil was readable. It wasn't great, but it wasn't completely terrible. It did suffer a bit from the "hey look at the shiny new toys in the Necron codex" thing. Lots of overly wordy description of the new Necron units.
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 01:25
|
|
|
From what I've seen GW likes to do that a lot. Books released around the time period of a major codex update tend to seem like their main goal is to sell the new codex.
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 01:27
|
|
|
Noctis Horrendae posted:From what I've seen GW likes to do that a lot. Books released around the time period of a major codex update tend to seem like their main goal is to sell the new codex. That's probably because their main goal is to sell the new codex (and kits).
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 02:38
|
|
|
The Rat posted:Hammer and Anvil was readable. It wasn't great, but it wasn't completely terrible. It did suffer a bit from the "hey look at the shiny new toys in the Necron codex" thing. Lots of overly wordy description of the new Necron units. Yeah, as someone who was never all that interested in Necrons I didnt really give a crap about their whiz-bang shooty-bots, but the characterization and interplay between the Necron scientist and general were interesting.
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 03:58
|
|
|
One Legged Cat posted:That's actually what I was hoping the story would be! Still got a few interesting scenes near the end when the soldiers were faking interest in The Greater Good, but I'm holding out for a story less based on the Imperium side of things. Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Feb 7, 2014 |
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 06:48
|
|
|
I've read up a bit about all the psykers who are sacrificed to the Emperor. It seems there are two kinds of sacrifice: one to keep the Golden Throne running and one to power the Astronomican. Am I right?
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 20:15
|
|
|
One Legged Cat posted:That's actually what I was hoping the story would be! Still got a few interesting scenes near the end when the soldiers were faking interest in The Greater Good, but I'm holding out for a story less based on the Imperium side of things. Nephilm posted:It's important to remember, though, that WH40k is the story of the Imperium of Man - every narrative and every viewpoint is meant to be framed in that context. Stories that have nothing/little to do with the Imperium are rare and product of bad writers having a boner for space elves.
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 20:31
|
|
|
Baron Bifford posted:I've read up a bit about all the psykers who are sacrificed to the Emperor. It seems there are two kinds of sacrifice: one to keep the Golden Throne running and one to power the Astronomican. Am I right? Yes. The Emperor then uses some of his own potential to modulate the signal of the Astronomican, effectively recycling some of one psykerbattery to boost another. I'm pretty sure some sources have conflated the Throne and the Astronomican before, though. Nephilm posted:Stories that have nothing/little to do with the Imperium are rare and product of bad writers having a boner for space elves. Gav Thorpe isn't that bad... ... is he?
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 20:31
|
|
|
When sanctioned psykers get soul-bound, do they actually get to see the physical form of the Emperor?
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 21:27
|
|
|
FrozenDorf posted:Gav Thorpe isn't that bad... he's worse
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 21:32
|
|
|
Baron Bifford posted:When sanctioned psykers get soul-bound, do they actually get to see the physical form of the Emperor? I've heard it described as psykers being exposed to the complete and total horror of the warp while the Emperor shields them from it so they now know what terror is out there without being seduced by it. Some get their eyes burned out from the experience, or deafened, or otherwise stricken physically. Surviving it unscathed would mark someone as a good candidate for the Inquisition. I have no idea how psyker Space Marines work at all and it's almost never mentioned.
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 21:50
|
|
|
It's specifically astropaths that are soul-bound to the Emperor - though it's not limited to them, not all individuals trained and 'sanctioned' by the astra telepathica undergo that process. Space Marine psykers are trained by the members of their respective librarium.
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 22:01
|
|
|
Baron Bifford posted:It seems there are two kinds of sacrifice: one to keep the Golden Throne running and one to power the Astronomican. Am I right? There does seem to be a lot of connection between the two, and I've always assumed they are connected to each other directly, if not just share the same power source. I want to say the two might've been more separate at some point before the Heresy, but they were firmly joined at some point by all the emergency jury-rigging the Golden Throneroom underwent. Baron Bifford posted:When sanctioned psykers get soul-bound, do they actually get to see the physical form of the Emperor? I think they'd need to be close enough to the Throne (and the throneroom's like a handful of kilometers wide), and really, the physical form of the Emperor isn't all that impressive these days.  It'd probably just bum them out if they got a look. 
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 22:40
|
|
|
Two right arms. Mutant.
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 22:55
|
|
|
He uses the Thundercloud Formation. 
|
|
#
?
Feb 7, 2014 23:40
|
|
|
Two LEFT arms. That image is a fanart anyway. How many people know the Emperor's true condition, anyway? Uroboros posted:On the plus side ADB wrote The Emperor's Gift, which made me pretty gay for Hyperion. Hell, the part where they defeat Angron alone is arguably the best 40K chapter ever, poo poo be epic son. Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Feb 8, 2014 |
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 04:23
|
|
|
So this is more of a lore question than related to BL fiction per se, but. I had the opportunity to peruse a copy of the Forge World Horus Heresy Book 2 recently, and in the Salamanders section it mentioned that unlike many of the Legions, the details of the original recruiting demographic for the Salamanders, Space Wolves and Alpha Legion are shrouded in mystery. I can understand why it'd be thematic for the Alpha Legion, but why would the recruiting for the Salamanders and Space Wolves be obfuscated? (For context, this is talking about the very beginnings of the Legions during the end of the unification, before the Great Crusade. For most of the legions there's a description of the demographics that the original legionnaires recruited from on Terra; e.g. the Night Lords were recruited from the children of underground prison gangs.)
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 08:34
|
|
|
I imagine it's something to do with the Canis Helix, but nothing so far in the HH books has mentioned about the SW before the Emperor found Russ. No idea about the Salamanders.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 14:06
|
|
|
Keep in mind this is going back 10k years, so 'being shrouded in mystery' doesn't mean there is deliberate deceit. Plus don't we know the Salamanders recruited from the 7 warrior-houses from their home world or whatever?
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 15:15
|
|
|
SUPER NEAT TOY posted:Keep in mind this is going back 10k years, so 'being shrouded in mystery' doesn't mean there is deliberate deceit. He's referring to the Terran born marines that would have made up the legion originally. And I have no clue, nothing I have read indicates it.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 16:45
|
|
|
Hammer and Anvil was okay? I read Faith and Fire and it was an absolute boring slog.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 16:58
|
|
|
Well, hammers and anvils are solid, reliable things, whereas faith and fire are both immaterial and fleeting, indicating weaker literary material. It's pretty simple, man. 
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 18:18
|
|
|
We need a slow clap icon.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 18:22
|
|
|
Big Willy Style posted:He's referring to the Terran born marines that would have made up the legion originally. And I have no clue, nothing I have read indicates it. In C:SM, they say that Vulkan reorganized his Legion into 7 houses, each of which recruited from one of 7 huge settlements on Nocturne. I don't think any of the original legions have extensive histories about their Terran recruiting, all I can think of is that one White Scars tidbit.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 19:44
|
|
|
Man, imagine being a Terran born Space Wolf (or whatever they may have been called)and then having the Fenrisians joining your ranks.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 19:53
|
|
|
SUPER NEAT TOY posted:In C:SM, they say that Vulkan reorganized his Legion into 7 houses, each of which recruited from one of 7 huge settlements on Nocturne. It comes up a fair bit in Flight of the Eisenstein, if I recall correctly, because a bunch of the loyalist Astartes, including Garro the POV character, are Terran-born.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 20:00
|
|
|
SUPER NEAT TOY posted:In C:SM, they say that Vulkan reorganized his Legion into 7 houses, each of which recruited from one of 7 huge settlements on Nocturne. Death Guard include lots of stiff upper lip Englishmen
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 21:20
|
|
|
I think the Death Guards' lips have all melted off.
|
|
#
?
Feb 8, 2014 21:30
|
|
|
The Thousand Sons were recruited from Mesopotamia, I believe.
|
|
#
?
Feb 9, 2014 00:40
|
|
|
Blacktoll posted:The Thousand Sons were recruited from Mesopotamia, I believe. with the exception of one described as blonde and fair skinned, the rest came from the "Nordafrik enclaves", which would be North Africa, or basically Egypt.
|
|
#
?
Feb 9, 2014 01:14
|
|
|
One Legged Cat posted:There does seem to be a lot of connection between the two, and I've always assumed they are connected to each other directly, if not just share the same power source. I want to say the two might've been more separate at some point before the Heresy, but they were firmly joined at some point by all the emergency jury-rigging the Golden Throneroom underwent. This is pretty cool! Though I didn't think Horus hosed up the Big E this bad.
|
|
#
?
Feb 9, 2014 02:28
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 8, 2024 15:12 |
|
|
Well. Horus and 10,000 years sitting on the throne as a living psychic battery.
|
|
#
?
Feb 9, 2014 02:32
|
|
