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Just inherited a sexy* virtual machine host and a 10K SAN  What I am going to do with it, I have no idea. But if my boss was like...hey I need 80 webservers like yesterday. I would be on top of that so hard. Should be fun to play around with at least, maybe I'll go VDI for our weekend testing environments or something' *Just kidding it's a Poweredge T410
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Well I think that went over well, now just wait on the reciter to call me and fill me in. Side question because I don't think I've ever seen this asked before here. What's the average length of time for a phone interview gone well? Generally I ballpark it at 25-35 minutes, from times I've given or sat in on them, for a "good phone interview", with over better and under worse.
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Feb 10, 2014 20:59
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I don't think it's possible to say purely based on call duration. If I feel that an interview has gone well and it's at 15 minutes and neither the interviewer or the interviewee has any questions left to ask then you're better off ending the call and potentially giving the interviewer an unscheduled coffee break than desperately scrambling around for low quality questions to pad time out.
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Feb 10, 2014 21:03
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Time can't really be a factor, unless it was like 5 minutes. For technical interviews, I've sat in on 30 min - 1 hour bad interviews before, and good interviews I've gone through myself have ranged from a half hour to 45 mins.
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Feb 10, 2014 21:04
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Well I think that went over well, now just wait on the reciter to call me and fill me in. I've been hitting an hour easy on phone interviews lately, with the longest approaching 2 hours. Ninja edit: that time is not for technical screens. Those are generally 45-60m
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Feb 10, 2014 21:11
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I didn't realize you were jumping the gun to a new job before you even had a phone interview. That seems a little presumptuous.
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Feb 10, 2014 21:32
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Ahh give the kid an A+ for enthusiasm. Interviews are tricky. For me, when we decide to talk to someone, it means they already look good on paper. The first phone interview accomplishes two things for me 1: Gives me a chance to spot check your resume. I ask open ended questions about things you've put on there to see if you're bullshitting me about your skills. If bullshit is detected, do not pass go. 2: Gives me a chance to get a feel for your personality. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. You work with people 40 or 50 hours a week, it's important they get along with the 'group'. I don't care how technically proficient you are, if you don't get along with the group, you're not a fit for this job. I'll take nice friendly guy that needs more time to get up to speed over super techno dude with no personality and a bad attitude.
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Feb 10, 2014 21:46
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I've been having a nice tease at what it's like to have work minions, and I think I like it way too much. I posted a few months ago about some cronyism in the workplace, where I landed my best friend a job as a network engineer on the same contract as me. He has a CCNA and barely any real world experience and somehow my coworker and I convinced my boss to hire him, throwing him into the fast paced world of SP Wifi. He has been managing not to go crazy due to the sheer scale, and has totally become my bitch. All the little things, like prefabbing configs for a lab redesign we are doing, submitted change tickets or getting us coffee, he's right on the money. I'm gonna miss when he becomes competent and starts fighting back about the coffee runs 
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Feb 10, 2014 22:00
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Paladine_PSoT posted:I've been hitting an hour easy on phone interviews lately, with the longest approaching 2 hours. Since I am once again looking for new opportunities, I have talked to a few recruiters who had talked about coming in a separate day for a technical exam of some kind for the interview process. Each time I have flat out told them that I am not going to waste time on silly things like that. I am not in the stage of my career anymore. I am also not filling out any forms on their loving websites either. If I can't cut and paste or upload my resume than you don't pass go. If whatever can't be figured out in a few phone interviews and a face to face, I don't give a poo poo what its for. So far not a single recruiter has balked. In reality it feels like the exact opposite happens and that it seems to only drive up their interest. I don't feel like I have any magic mojo or anything but I haven't had a single face to face interview in which I wasn't offered the gig.
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Feb 10, 2014 22:14
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One of my work mates ran a technical phone interview for a potential new hire in 'a low cost location' last week. The candidate was first rate and really knew his stuff - answered all the complex scenarios with good solutions. So the potential recruit was scheduled for a local HR interview earlier today. My friend happened to be working early so the HR manager conferenced him in incase anything needed clarifying. A few minutes into the interview he realised it wasn't the same voice/person who did the technical interview...awkward. When he was asked to explain this the candidate simply left without a word. I think we'd love to actually hire the person who did the technical interview but have no idea who it was. The only other IT job interview tip is don't do what I did in a technical interview. I was given some code and asked to find 10 errors or inefficient bits of code in it and suggest solutions. I found about 15 issues and the technical interviewer got really defensive as it was his baby.
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Feb 10, 2014 22:44
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"The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping. Why is that, Corvette Fisher?"
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Feb 10, 2014 22:47
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Baconroll posted:The only other IT job interview tip is don't do what I did in a technical interview. I was given some code and asked to find 10 errors or inefficient bits of code in it and suggest solutions. I found about 15 issues and the technical interviewer got really defensive as it was his baby.
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Feb 10, 2014 22:48
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Sepist posted:I've been having a nice tease at what it's like to have work minions Minions are the best. Friend minions are the bestest. I had 5 at my last job. 0 now. I miss them when it comes to printer issues or other horseshit.
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Feb 10, 2014 22:58
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Sickening posted:Since I am once again looking for new opportunities, I have talked to a few recruiters who had talked about coming in a separate day for a technical exam of some kind for the interview process. Each time I have flat out told them that I am not going to waste time on silly things like that. I am not in the stage of my career anymore. I am also not filling out any forms on their loving websites either. If I can't cut and paste or upload my resume than you don't pass go. Gross, if a recruiter asks you to come in separately for a technical exam or has you fill out anything beyond a basic application I would suggest refusing. The most I might do is an ONLINE assessment tests if it helps us ease any concerns the employer has about your ability.
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Feb 10, 2014 23:11
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Count Sacula posted:Gross, if a recruiter asks you to come in separately for a technical exam or has you fill out anything beyond a basic application I would suggest refusing. The most I might do is an ONLINE assessment tests if it helps us ease any concerns the employer has about your ability. I'm not adverse to technical phone screens. Then again, I'm not "IT", I do Technical Program Management for software development projects. If they want to get someone on the phone to discuss the SDLC with me before meeting me face to face, i'm fine with that. It lets them know that I can do the job before we get to the face to face so we can focus more on personality/style fit and other elements.
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Feb 10, 2014 23:24
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Count Sacula posted:The most I might do is an ONLINE assessment tests if it helps us ease any concerns the employer has about your ability. These are invariably worse, because it's some multiple choice questionnaire that can be answered by "man perldoc" or whatever that has no bearing on your ability one way or another because you've probably never used whatever finicky things they're asking you and never will.
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Feb 10, 2014 23:32
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Paladine_PSoT posted:I'm not adverse to technical phone screens. Then again, I'm not "IT", I do Technical Program Management for software development projects. If they want to get someone on the phone to discuss the SDLC with me before meeting me face to face, i'm fine with that. It lets them know that I can do the job before we get to the face to face so we can focus more on personality/style fit and other elements. I agree. A few phone interviews and a face to face is enough for me. The face to face time is the only thing that should be extensive. I am not going to invest separate trips for a test like i am some high school kid taking his drivers written exam.
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Feb 10, 2014 23:40
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Baconroll posted:A few minutes into the interview he realised it wasn't the same voice/person who did the technical interview...awkward.  This is amazing.
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Feb 10, 2014 23:56
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Baconroll posted:I think we'd love to actually hire the person who did the technical interview but have no idea who it was. Maybe it was daddy. But I hope you wouldn't really want to hire that person either since they were complicit in the scam.
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Feb 11, 2014 00:26
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Posting so that Sefal's updates come to me. Sweet gently caress, dude. After not getting paid ONE paycheque, raise all kinds of hell. Seriously. You deserve to get paid for your time. Also, being "on call" 24/7 is /never/ worth it, unless they're personally fellating you while you're on call off grounds.
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Feb 11, 2014 01:25
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Sefal posted:I don't know if that's something that's proof. If you believe in the startup, and agree that you aren't getting paid for a long loving time, you could always ask for equity (then quit).
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Feb 11, 2014 01:48
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In better news I got my home office kit ordered today hell yes.
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evil_bunnY posted:In better news I got my home office kit ordered today hell yes. I miss read this as home office kilt and now I am disappointed.
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Feb 11, 2014 02:19
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Talking to colleagues wearing your PJ's is *the best*.
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evil_bunnY posted:Talking to colleagues wearing your PJ's is *the best*.
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I can totally picture a dude with no pants going "I need the socks to perform, you see?" My state of dress doesn't influence how I work, it's mostly about caffeine PPM, and how much sleep the little guy has let me had the night before.
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Feb 11, 2014 03:01
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Currently working while drinking an Ayinger doppelbock. Wearing pajamas because I can't spontaneously work out to clear my head while wearing real pants. Offices are for the birds.
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Anyone have experience getting relocation help? I'm graduating soon and want to get the gently caress out of the midwest (probably somewhere in the pacific northwest) but I'm not sure how to go about that since most of the stuff for college graduates I've seen is either local only or offers no relocation. Luckily I have some money saved up to move if I need to but did anyone have luck with that? I have about a year of experience and some certificates (A+, Web Foundations, Network+, Project+) but not being local seems to be killing me.
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Stanos posted:Anyone have experience getting relocation help? I'm graduating soon and want to get the gently caress out of the midwest (probably somewhere in the pacific northwest) but I'm not sure how to go about that since most of the stuff for college graduates I've seen is either local only or offers no relocation. Luckily I have some money saved up to move if I need to but did anyone have luck with that? I have about a year of experience and some certificates (A+, Web Foundations, Network+, Project+) but not being local seems to be killing me. It's possible to get relocated as a recent grad, but for the most part it's larger companies in major markets doing this because they have to compete with others (seattle having MS, Google, Amazon, tons of other tech, for example). Entry level work otherwise is difficult or impossible to get relocation assistance, though.
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Speaking of interviews, I don't even know how to explain the one that I had. The first 10 minutes were great conversation about the job, my experience in the navy, what I know about the position and my experience relating, etc. And then "Okay well now we're going to get started with the technical questions". (The position clearly stated "no prior experience required". 100% entry level here.) Needless to say, with no real experience, I bombed that part. Every other question was simply answered "I don't know how to answer that" or "I'm sorry I don't have an answer for that." And then, some situational questions. By that point I was so nervous from bombing the tech part that I was stumbling all over the place. The last part was a few more questions similar to the first part of the interview, and was ended professionally (as much as I could muster). I felt like I successfully bombed it... and 15 minutes later I got the email from the recruiter saying "X extended an offer!"
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Speaking of interviews, I don't even know how to explain the one that I had. They're probably trying to get an honest appraisal of your technical skills. If you were overqualified, they'd waste time and money hiring you on only to have you jump ship 3 months later when something higher paying becomes available.
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One thing that really does help in interviews where you stumble on a few questions is to make them sure you're willing to learn on the job. In my case, I was asked what TCP/IP and NetBIOS were and which one I'd use. I truthfully answered I wasn't sure what NetBIOS was, but if it was superior to TCP/IP I'd love to learn more about it. I wouldn't expect it to be though because in all the systems I've seen they've used IP. The guy loved that, as a few people before me simply said "I don't know" and expected to move onto the next question.
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You can always come work for me. I won't pay you either, but I won't lie about it. And I do need someone with IT skills
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Relocation help is for candidates you can't find alternatives to locally, as a rule of thumb :/
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psydude posted:They're probably trying to get an honest appraisal of your technical skills. If you were overqualified, they'd waste time and money hiring you on only to have you jump ship 3 months later when something higher paying becomes available. I guess that makes sense, especially considering that the first 4 weeks of this 4 month contract is training.
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evil_bunnY posted:Relocation help is for candidates you can't find alternatives to locally, as a rule of thumb :/ This can also mean 'to entice people to move to places they otherwise wouldn't move to'. It's how I ended up in Texas, though from Arizona it's basically a lateral move. At least the BBQ's great here. 
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Re: Another Local Job Posting with Kitchen Sink Requirementsquote:IT Support Specialist At least it didn't ask for 5 years experience with Server 2012 
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Lazer Vampire Jr. posted:Re: Another Local Job Posting with Kitchen Sink Requirements I can't see a single company ever getting anywhere with those types of postings. Then again, there is probably a goon out there that did this job for free.
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Lazer Vampire Jr. posted:Re: Another Local Job Posting with Kitchen Sink Requirements I'm going to assume the salary was somewhere in the 25-35k region too.
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The best is how getting all of that experience and expertise should only have taken you 1-3 years.
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