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Tenebrais posted:They could be spirits taking the form of students to fit in. Or Max's mind is filling in the gaps of vaguely humanoid figures in the school halls. We still don't know how most of this stuff works. Tragedy like "...flipping his nuggets! Just like--" and "...blowing up buildings, or worse." E: Oh, while I'm at this. Lefty has a really nifty trick on this page. Unhappy Meal fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Feb 7, 2014 |
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I think Zack actually answered questions about all those kids back when he showed up on his friends streams. Basically the answer is they aren't all from the school, Mayview in general is a bit meeting place for spirits and such, and the school is a hotspot from some reason. I can't remember if at this point in the comic he established the "ghosts don't have feet" rule yet. They might some be spirits. Also I just want to mention how clever having ghosts and spirits look purple when you first start seeing them works on that page. It seems like just "unimportant background" coloring and then BAM empty hallway. I don't think I've seen a single person actually notice the purple and expect that. Whitenoise Poster fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Feb 7, 2014 |
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Feb 7, 2014 06:06
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Mystic Mongol posted:As spectrals, Spender and Isabel deal with threats and dangers that they will receive absolutely no help with. What are they going to do? Call a cop, trust the military, hire a private contractor to put enormous locks on the doors? They have to be self-reliant, and Grandpa's pushing both of them to be tougher and more independent--to stop looking to others for help and take care of themselves. Even his lecturing of Spender is less, "Stop being evil," and more, "Stop being evil where people can see, nerd." Grandpa is basically doing what he's warning Spender about, having good intentions while doing awful things. Sure, she needs to defend herself, but he's gone so far that she doesn't think he cares about her, and, well, his methods are to call a twelve year old an embarrassment and say she's not worthy. Not to mention revealing something she seems to have a phobia of to someone twice her age so that person could beat her in a fight. He's kind of an abusive dick and he should take his own advice that he gave Spender instead of making his granddaughter feel like garbage.
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Feb 7, 2014 06:35
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Being a dick to your granddaughter and going down the path of evil are in kinda different leagues.
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Feb 7, 2014 06:50
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So, I wonder what the dogs were saying? That skull language might be just gibberish though.
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Feb 7, 2014 15:16
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Hey, rereading is interesting in that you can pick up stuff. For example: here, Doorman tells Max's batsnake that "[his] power is nothing to be afraid of. Riddles and word games." Earlier, he was punning while wielding his bat and didn't seem to be aware that he was speaking (surprised reaction at Isaac's reply). And Isaac seems to have picked up on it when he mox Macks. Or mocks Max. I'm kind of wondering what's the link between magnetism and wordplay, though.
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Feb 7, 2014 17:39
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Cat Mattress posted:I'm kind of wondering what's the link between magnetism and wordplay, though.
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Feb 7, 2014 20:29
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Cat Mattress posted:Earlier, he was punning while wielding his bat and didn't seem to be aware that he was speaking (surprised reaction at Isaac's reply). I think he was just surprised that Isaac thought he was making a point. Max has consistently been kind of a smartass.
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Feb 7, 2014 20:36
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Hey, look at that. This is going to end badly for someone.
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Feb 7, 2014 21:23
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I know how the language works but it still took me a bit to read it. That said, dog is gonna die.
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Feb 7, 2014 21:37
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Out of the frying pan... Of course, Spender is going to interrupt in the best way.
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Feb 7, 2014 21:39
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I really love Forge man.
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Feb 7, 2014 22:10
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What are the chances that Forge dude will actually avoid battling Spender?
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Feb 7, 2014 22:33
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Pretty much none. For all his show of self control I think the only things Forge likes are violence and drama which he'll generate plenty of if they throw down.
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Feb 7, 2014 22:55
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Can someone transcribe? Language hurts my eyes for whatever reason.
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Feb 7, 2014 23:01
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2. ...too small. 4. The Ghost Train!? 5. All the metal I need... right in front of me. 6. A cruel temptation. 9. Mistake.
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Feb 7, 2014 23:03
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And then he says "Mistake" to the dog. Doggies gon' die.
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Feb 7, 2014 23:04
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Yeah, that dog is hosed unless it avoids whatever Forge throws at it and then Spender shows up to distract him while it gets away. Either way, though... It's a pretty safe bet that Spender and Forge are going to go at it. And, given what we know, I doubt Forge will win that fight, though he might escape perhaps. Either way, after that I'm thinking Spender will find the locket. Which will probably lead him to the Doorman. From there, between the Consortium's presence and interference (they're investigating the area and something like that being here is exactly what Spender doesn't want them to find), the Doorman's own faction, Isaac's involvement, and everything else, things will probably get really messy really quickly. And that's not even getting into the Brotherhood of Man, whatever they are, or MAx's spirit and its faction.
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Feb 7, 2014 23:17
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On a second reading, Max's spirit said that it wasn't referring to its faction, after saying that the mysterious "she" who Doorman follows should fear broken gods. I really doubt BL is "she". Anvildragon told the shadowrabbit not to lead the pixeldogs to "her". So "she" is in Mayview somewhere. Comedy option: She's that deer lady Isaac helped out. So we've got Spender and his mysterious agenda, the Activity Consortium, the Cousinhood Man, the Doorman's faction, Riddleserpent's faction, and this "broken god(s?)" faction. I'm not sure if the dogs are from Riddleserpent's faction or the broken gods or yet another unnamed group. Anvildragon appears to be an independent party who happens to owe the Doorman's leader a debt. And we don't know if Isaac's storm god is with any of the spirit factions or similarly independent. He certainly doesn't appear to be with any human faction. There's a lot of room for conflict here. 
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Feb 8, 2014 05:51
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Almost need a chart o keep it all straight. It's basically my second most favorite part of the comic. The first being just the amazing grasp of comedy Zack has.
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Feb 8, 2014 06:21
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I have a feeling that once poo poo starts to get real, we'll be going "oh" every page
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Feb 10, 2014 05:23
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New page!
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Feb 10, 2014 18:21
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New page up. I wish he'd do subtitles for that ghost language, tilting my head to try and read it gets old.
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Feb 10, 2014 18:22
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Coach Sport posted:New page up. I wish he'd do subtitles for that ghost language, tilting my head to try and read it gets old. I suppose that’s fair. Well… One last gambit can’t hurt.
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Feb 10, 2014 18:24
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That was an impressively nasty trick that dog just pulled.
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Feb 10, 2014 18:25
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I almost get the sense that Forge is preparing to be killed by Spender, from Forge's body language and word choice. Whitenoise Poster posted:That was an impressively nasty trick that dog just pulled. Yea, that was clever of it to use its last action like that.
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Feb 10, 2014 21:04
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Brannock posted:I almost get the sense that Forge is preparing to be killed by Spender, from Forge's body language and word choice. You know, if he were discorporated, he could get through the little door. quote:Yea, that was clever of it to use its last action like that. Makes me wonder what sort of creature it is, to be willing to sacrifice itself in that manner while also being smart enough to come up with that trick.
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Feb 10, 2014 21:30
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Rand Brittain posted:You know, if he were discorporated, he could get through the little door. I wonder if that was somehow the plan from the start? Edit: The second part, not the first
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Feb 10, 2014 21:34
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Whitenoise Poster posted:That was an impressively nasty trick that dog just pulled. Trolling a dude at the cost of your own life. That is loving commitment.
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Feb 10, 2014 21:58
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Rand Brittain posted:You know, if he were discorporated, he could get through the little door. I think it realized it was hosed anyway and then decided it might as well have a partner on the road to hell.
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Feb 10, 2014 22:08
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AnonSpore posted:I think it realized it was hosed anyway and then decided it might as well have a partner on the road to hell. Probably this. There's almost no way it could've timed its jump perfectly off the train to land right next to Forge like that. The dogs overheard the bit about the train and probably decided to hop on, hoping Spender wouldn't be along for the ride that night. They got found, red dog jumps off, sees forge and decides to gently caress him over and at least accomplish whatever goal doing that would serve since he's dead anyway.
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Rand Brittain posted:You know, if he were discorporated, he could get through the little door. Spirits can't survive discorporated for very long. I imagine he plans to possess an item on the Ghost Train, or possibly a person. He might try Max and we get to learn more about Max's spirit.
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Angry Walrus posted:Spirits can't survive discorporated for very long. I imagine he plans to possess an item on the Ghost Train, or possibly a person. He might try Max and we get to learn more about Max's spirit. If he does grab for Max it creates some really interesting stuff. Since Forge is aligned with The Doorman (Roughly) he's kind of at odds with the Magnet Snake. But being able to manipulate the form of metal AND having magnetism would be so cool!
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Shame that I'm pretty sure that this guys gray energy and not black energy.
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Does energy color matter with regards to possession? The one ghost was going to possess Max's dad, and he's no spectral so, I would imagine, lacks color energy.
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Whitenoise Poster posted:Shame that I'm pretty sure that this guys gray energy and not black energy. I think everything we've seen so far is steam coming off of the super-heated bits of metal/his fingers, not spectral energy. It's always been shown to be very bright and vibrant, the trails of stuff Forge produces have been way more subdued in comparison, and has that "tssssh" sound effect which brings to mind water hitting something super hot too. Who knows what his color is!
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I think non-spectrals are like objects. No energy at all so anything can posses it.Bussamove posted:I think everything we've seen so far is steam coming off of the super-heated bits of metal/his fingers, not spectral energy. It's always been shown to be very bright and vibrant, the trails of stuff Forge produces have been way more subdued in comparison, and has that "tssssh" sound effect which brings to mind water hitting something super hot too. Who knows what his color is! Err sorry I should of clarified. I'm going off of out of comic things Zack said. In the commets here http://paranatural.net/chapter-4-page-42/ Whitenoise Poster fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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Angry Walrus posted:Does energy color matter with regards to possession? The one ghost was going to possess Max's dad, and he's no spectral so, I would imagine, lacks color energy. That's actually a fair point. The entire reason spirits possess people when they're weak is so they can snack on their spectral energy to recover. If that spirit, who did seem at least somewhat competent, wanted to posses Max's dad then it must have stood to have something to gain from it. Maybe possession can make someone into a spectral? It's also worth noting here that Max started becoming one almost as soon as he arrived in Mayview, but he fully became one when he was right next to a Tool. It may be possible that the Tool made him into a compatible spectral, rather than him happening to be have the right kind of spectral energy.
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Feb 11, 2014 00:06
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Zack did an interview on his stuff! He talks about the development of the story. If you're interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeJFR9Pv7O8
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Slime posted:Maybe possession can make someone into a spectral? This is another thing he told us. If someone who is not a spectral becomes possessed, they slowly become a spectral of the same color of the spirit possessing them. It's kinda annoying that a lot of information of the world of the comic is outside of the comic. Someone should make a wiki of everything Zack's ever said.
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