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I think the most important question is this: just how euphoric was the Emperor when he set out on the grand crusade?
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JerryLee posted:I think the most important question is this: just how euphoric was the Emperor when he set out on the grand crusade? His Facebook status had to be no less that DETERMINED. or LIKED. possibly even blessed
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Feb 10, 2014 23:16
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Baron Bifford posted:Actually, it went more like this: I got more of a Santa Claus vibe from that scene. Especially with the Fenrisian inquisitor being all "he's real  ".
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Feb 10, 2014 23:20
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FrozenDorf posted:The Emperor did want religion, but he hid the fact. He tore down all the old gods and denied his own divinity because, when people gazed upon his majesty and realized he was a god of their own volition, they were all the more devoted for it. berzerkmonkey posted:Correct. What he failed to account for is that people always need something greater than themselves to believe in, whether it is a cause or a divine being. In his case, people believed more in the Emperor's divinity, rather than his cause. Ok, which one of you is Lorgar?
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Feb 10, 2014 23:20
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The Emperor learned almost too late that man is a feeling creature, and because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned too late for himself that men have to find their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And when men seek such perfection, they find only death... fire... loss... disillusionment... the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to the toil and misery, but it can't be given, it has to be achieved! There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself.
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Feb 11, 2014 00:11
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Sharkie posted:The Emperor learned almost too late that man is a feeling creature, and because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned too late for himself that men have to find their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And when men seek such perfection, they find only death... fire... loss... disillusionment... the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to the toil and misery, but it can't be given, it has to be achieved! There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself. This is a synopsis of Kung Fu Panda
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Feb 11, 2014 00:28
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UncleSmoothie posted:This is a synopsis of Kung Fu Panda Oh god, now I'm imaging a panda in terminator armor giving that speech!
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Feb 11, 2014 00:30
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jng2058 posted:Oh god, now I'm imaging a panda in terminator armor giving that speech! Among the many lessons of the Cursed Founding was that hybridizing Space Wolf and White Scar gene-seed should never be attempted.
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Feb 11, 2014 00:42
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Ardent Communist posted:Even though I haven't read it yet, I imagine it went something like "I met the Emperor. The Emperor was a friend of mine. You sir, are no Emperor." ... that's actually not to far off from how it goes. that really is a fantastic scene.
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Feb 11, 2014 00:45
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Imagine what the Emprah would say if he could talk again. Also, the problem about believing in god and poo poo is the warp's tendency to gently caress around with it, like in Ghostbusters, so if the Emprah wasn't so bend into secrecy and told the truth from the beginning about the true nature of the warp and it inhabitants, humankind (maybe) wouldn't be in such a mess. In retrospect, getting punched in the face by Horus serves him right.
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Feb 11, 2014 01:11
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I've been wanting to read Inquisition War, and that excerpt pushed me over the edge. But am I going to learn all kinds of stuff that has been retconned into being invalid? I won't bother if so.
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Feb 11, 2014 01:30
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mdemone posted:I've been wanting to read Inquisition War, and that excerpt pushed me over the edge. But am I going to learn all kinds of stuff that has been retconned into being invalid? I won't bother if so. 40k continuity is intentionally uncertain at all times so honestly it doesn't matter and you should just go for whatever makes things the coolest or most fun.
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Feb 11, 2014 01:42
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mdemone posted:I've been wanting to read Inquisition War, and that excerpt pushed me over the edge. But am I going to learn all kinds of stuff that has been retconned into being invalid? I won't bother if so. The Inquisition War is fun. It has everything. It has the Big E talking, it has assassins, it has hermaphrodite demons loving people to death, it has squats, it has Space Marines wandering in the webway, it has ghosts, and much much more. Read it. It's old. Not everything is still canon, but God is it a lot of fun.
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Feb 11, 2014 02:03
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Impaired Casing posted:The Inquisition War is fun. It has everything. It has the Big E talking, it has assassins, it has hermaphrodite demons loving people to death, it has squats, it has Space Marines wandering in the webway, it has ghosts, and much much more. Read it. It's old. Not everything is still canon, but God is it a lot of fun. All of which are now gone from 40k canon. 
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Feb 11, 2014 02:23
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Except Assassins, which are still there.
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Feb 11, 2014 02:25
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Fair enough. I don't mind if some stuff is out of the canon by now, just as long as the Emperor isn't running a machine shop in Terre Haute or something.
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Feb 11, 2014 02:44
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hopterque posted:You know the Chaos Gods were lying to Horus and crew, right? Like none of that was actually true, they just wanted Horus and his brothers to think they were betrayed. I actually think it would be kind of cool if the Emperor was some sort of disowned Chaos God and some of what they told Horus was true. As far as Bjorn, the Inquisitor says something about God-Emperor this or that. Bjorn then says "God-Emperor? Calling him a god is what started this mess in the first place.", setting the tone for the rest of his comments and leaving the Inquisitor thoroughly baffled. While it's a great passage, none of his comments surpass the one above.
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mdemone posted:Fair enough. I don't mind if some stuff is out of the canon by now, just as long as the Emperor isn't running a machine shop in Terre Haute or something. Well, he could potentially be, they just have to let him die and he's back, good as new.
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Feb 11, 2014 03:08
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Let's be honest, if the Emperor really wanted his life support turned off he could almost certainly psychically compel someone to do it in some way, poo poo.
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Feb 11, 2014 03:16
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Fried Chicken posted:... that's actually not to far off from how it goes. that really is a fantastic scene. Just replace every instance of Emperor with All-Father...
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Vorenus posted:I actually think it would be kind of cool if the Emperor was some sort of disowned Chaos God and some of what they told Horus was true. We already know what the emperor is though. If the Horus series is canon anyway. E: Is Cain set in 'modern' 40k times? 'Coz then Squats are probably still around. EvilMuppet fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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Angry Lobster posted:Imagine what the Emprah would say if he could talk again. this is loving great hahaha. thanks for this
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hopterque posted:Let's be honest, if the Emperor really wanted his life support turned off he could almost certainly psychically compel someone to do it in some way, poo poo. Speaking of which are there any books that deal with the battle within the webway and the throne room? I remember reading some fluff about Space Marines, Custodes and Soroitas who first fought to contain it and than fell back into the throne room before the Big E finally closed the door.  EvilMuppet posted:We already know what the emperor is though. If the Horus series is canon anyway. Can you source this, and what makes you say that?
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Feb 11, 2014 04:46
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Sure, if a random wikki I found through Google counts: http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Emperor_of_Mankind It's under history and is in one of the recent Horus books but I forget which. I think it's originally much older fluff though. e: He's also en Perpetual, which makes the throne rather amusing. EvilMuppet fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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Vorenus posted:As far as Bjorn, the Inquisitor says something about God-Emperor this or that. Bjorn then says "God-Emperor? Calling him a god is what started this mess in the first place.", setting the tone for the rest of his comments and leaving the Inquisitor thoroughly baffled. While it's a great passage, none of his comments surpass the one above. I'm kind of fond of "Oh, for... Not you as well."
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Feb 11, 2014 04:54
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This was really way funnier then I thought it would be.
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Impaired Casing posted:The Inquisition War is fun. It has everything. It has the Big E talking, it has assassins, it has hermaphrodite demons loving people to death, it has squats, it has Space Marines wandering in the webway, it has ghosts, and much much more. Read it. It's old. Not everything is still canon, but God is it a lot of fun. It also has an Imperial Fists invading a Craftworld, an Imperial Fists captain that melted his skin off his hand so that he could scrimshaw his own bones and an Inquistor who had his memory wiped so that he could go through a rejuvenation process.
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Waroduce posted:Speaking of which are there any books that deal with the battle within the webway and the throne room? I remember reading some fluff about Space Marines, Custodes and Soroitas who first fought to contain it and than fell back into the throne room before the Big E finally closed the door. EvilMuppet posted:e: He's also en Perpetual, which makes the throne rather amusing. Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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Feb 11, 2014 09:59
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Book advice again. Are their any good books on life in the Impirium. As one of my favourite series was Enforcer I read a reasonably good amount of Abnett and ADB the last finished was Flight of the Eisenstine. Also are their any decent books based on space warfare, rouge agents.
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Where is that image of the Custodes in the Big E text to speech thing from? Is it actually a custodes?
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Yeah, it's definitely a Custodes. I don't know where the image comes from, but it's clearly clipped from a picture showing the various forms of Custodes. E: oh god I don't know how to un-attach this MOD EDIT: I removed the attachment for breaking tables. Let that be a lesson to you! Somebody fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:Where is that image of the Custodes in the Big E text to speech thing from? Is it actually a custodes? Edit: beaten
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Feb 11, 2014 15:39
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Yep, it's a custodes. I don't remember when they retconned them to be like this, with the golden armor, but their original appeareance in the Rogue Trader rulebook was pretty bizarre: Also, if I recall correctly, they were described as superior to the astartes but less loyal, which is quite shocking considering they were the guardians of the Emperor and the imperial palace. Maybe they did that to make them ressemble the roman Praetorian Guard?
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Feb 11, 2014 15:46
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The last images I remember seeing of Custodes were all the weird shirtless ones, yeah, so I was confused. How come GW spends so much money making different colors of loving Space Marines and these cool rear end guys get no model love?
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It was explained In one of the prospero books that the custodes are supposed to be hardier and better warriors than astartes, but they don't share a brotherly bond. They fight for individual glory rather than for all custodes. It has to do with astartes being mass production and custodes being individual made.
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EvilMuppet posted:Sure, if a random wikki I found through Google counts: http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Emperor_of_Mankind What Horus books are you talking about exactly? The ones where a bunch of lying extradimensional entities of pure evil from a place beyond sane conceptions of time and causality try to seduce Horus into betraying the Emperor? You're depending on them as your reliable source of history? Also the term perpetual is itself quite ambiguous, and it's already clear that the Emperor is immortal considering he's millenia old and is commonly called 'The Immortal Emperor of Mankind." Whether this means he can reincarnate upon death is unknown, and nobody is willing to risk the complete destruction of humanity to find out. OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:How come GW spends so much money making different colors of loving Space Marines and these cool rear end guys get no model love?
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I've always been fond of the idea that humanity's fervent worship of the Emperor might be adding to his power somehow. I mean, he tries to shut down religions and mythologies because belief in such things gives them power and identity in the warp. Just as Chaos has its cultists empowering the big 4 through various means of worship, I'd imagine that trillions and trillions of humans venerating and praying to The Emperor every moment, living and dying and toiling and fighting with His name on their lips every day for 10,000 years... well, might have had a bit of an effect on the ol' guy.
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Arquinsiel posted:Because there tends to be very little call for fighting in the Imperial Throneroom in M41? More accurately, because they enjoy making you buy overpriced greenstuff, inferior grade hobby tools, and already-developed kits (namely, SM, GK, and High Elves) in order to convert them.
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Englishman alone posted:Book advice again. Are their any good books on life in the Impirium. As one of my favourite series was Enforcer I read a reasonably good amount of Abnett and ADB the last finished was Flight of the Eisenstine. Eisenhorn and Ravenor according to when I asked this question a few pages back. Arquinsiel posted:Because there tends to be very little call for fighting in the Imperial Throneroom in M41? Noctis Horrendae fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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