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Spanish Manlove: Aug 31, 2008; HAILGAYSATAN

I've had a Gibson SG for about 6 years now and somehow the neck hasn't snapped off once. Hell I even took the guitar to Spain and back, but as carry on luggage. But then again it's a limited edition goth model with emgs in it and all that stuff so maybe it's not the usual Gibson half assed QA. Who knows man, but I love that guitar.

# ? Feb 10, 2014 16:06

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Zonekeeper: Oct 27, 2007

Harry in Rio posted:

The Epiphone SG Pro sounds great. You can split coils, it's light and I recorded with one. I own a few Gibsons. That Epi right now is working harder than a loving whore on nickel night. Perfect frets, great intonation, I can beat the poo poo out of it. Stays in tune.

So yeah, as a guy who owns a few Gibby SG's, I have to say, you're paying for a fuckin' name. Good luck with that. And if you get name shamed, then you probably suck anyway and should take up autoharp or worse, djent.

I have to agree on the "paying for a name" part. Squier's higher end lines (Vintage Modified and Classic Vibe) have nothing but glowing reviews and a lot of people say the CV series is just as high (or even better) quality as MIM Fenders.

China has a stigma for making cheap poo poo, but that's just because most companies that ship production over there pay the bare minimum and get lovely products in return. It turns out that if a company implements some quality control and pays a little extra, they get higher quality products. (Go figure :rolleyes:

) China (and the Pacific Islands) can make some awesome stuff as long as you steer away from bottom-of-the-barrel sweatshops.

# ? Feb 10, 2014 16:08

Barnaby Rudge: Jan 15, 2011; so your telling me you wasn't drunk or fucked up in anyway.when you had sex with me and that monkey; Soiled Meat

Spanish Manlove posted:

I've had a Gibson SG for about 6 years now and somehow the neck hasn't snapped off once. Hell I even took the guitar to Spain and back, but as carry on luggage. But then again it's a limited edition goth model with emgs in it and all that stuff so maybe it's not the usual Gibson half assed QA. Who knows man, but I love that guitar.

I honest-to-god don't think Gibson have any quality control, I've seen fret edges sharp enough to cut myself, cracked necks heels, excess glue oozing out of neck pockets, dings in fretboards repaired with what looked like PVA glue, all on new instruments.

In all fairness I've seen some pretty nice ones too, there is just gently caress all consistency. Some of the limited editions also fix the balance problems and have slightly thicker necks with a reduced headstock angle so they don't snap when you fart next to them, weirdly the better models always have 24 frets, maybe they are made by a different team or whatever.

# ? Feb 10, 2014 16:16

mclast: Nov 12, 2008; catchphrase over

Zonekeeper posted:

I have to agree on the "paying for a name" part. Squier's higher end lines (Vintage Modified and Classic Vibe) have nothing but glowing reviews and a lot of people say the CV series is just as high (or even better) quality as MIM Fenders.

China has a stigma for making cheap poo poo, but that's just because most companies that ship production over there pay the bare minimum and get lovely products in return. It turns out that if a company implements some quality control and pays a little extra, they get higher quality products. (Go figure ) China (and the Pacific Islands) can make some awesome stuff as long as you steer away from bottom-of-the-barrel sweatshops.

Seconding, I've played several VMs and CVs, and owned the VM jaguar for a while. The Fender-branded Modern Player line is out of the same factory.

They're awesome little machines. The next worthy upgrade in the fender line is the more expensive MIM, at ~700 or so

# ? Feb 10, 2014 16:25

satanic splash-back: Jan 28, 2009

White Dog Eggs posted:

I honest-to-god don't think Gibson have any quality control, I've seen fret edges sharp enough to cut myself, cracked necks heels, excess glue oozing out of neck pockets, dings in fretboards repaired with what looked like PVA glue, all on new instruments.

In all fairness I've seen some pretty nice ones too, there is just gently caress all consistency. Some of the limited editions also fix the balance problems and have slightly thicker necks with a reduced headstock angle so they don't snap when you fart next to them, weirdly the better models always have 24 frets, maybe they are made by a different team or whatever.

I've had a LP special for about a year and its pretty nice, but I wouldn't have paid anywhere near full price for the thing. Shop had three of the things and two of them were pretty awful like you're describing though.

# ? Feb 10, 2014 16:25

skudmunky: Apr 28, 2010

White Dog Eggs posted:

True, but there is craft involved in that. There is fck all craft in a pickup, unless you count soldering.

Go wind some pickups and let me know if you still think that. You ever have to deal with 42 gauge wire?

# ? Feb 10, 2014 16:27

Remulak: Jun 8, 2001; I can't count to four.; Yams Fan

I have a VM Jag (same bridge as VM Jazzy) and a Mascis JM, I'd say for a first guitar the Mascis is a better choice. The VM Jag is now terrific but I had to gently caress around with the bridge a lot (wrapping posts, clipping low E screw, loctite, file) before I was happy with it.

Mascis JM is a worse Jazzmaster (technically p90-not-Jazzmaster pickups, tune o'matic bridge, wrong term placement) but a better guitar if you don't want to gently caress with your guitars. Also, I like the neck better than the VM one I tried. The trem placement is the only one of these that really bothers me, since I'm a SY fan, and think I'll end up with a correctly-spec'ed JM at some point, but there's no hurry.

On the subject of Gibsons, My 60's Tribute (24-fret) SG is a terrific guitar, fit, finish, setup, frets, everything were dead on out of the box, and the price was reasonable - $650 with a min-e-tune during the clearance sale. I wouldn't have paid full price though! It does neck dive though, since the neck is chunky and doesn't feel as fragile as oldschool SG necks. This sturdiness comes at a cost though, it isn't the incredibly light, resonant (mustang-like) SG, it's more like an LP or Jag.

# ? Feb 10, 2014 16:35

Remulak: Jun 8, 2001; I can't count to four.; Yams Fan

Zonekeeper posted:

China (and the Pacific Islands) can make some awesome stuff as long as you steer away from bottom-of-the-barrel sweatshops.

A CNC machine doesn't care what country it's in.

# ? Feb 10, 2014 16:37

Zonekeeper: Oct 27, 2007

Remulak posted:

I have a VM Jag (same bridge as VM Jazzy) and a Mascis JM, I'd say for a first guitar the Mascis is a better choice. The VM Jag is now terrific but I had to gently caress around with the bridge a lot (wrapping posts, clipping low E screw, loctite, file) before I was happy with it.

That's more an issue with the bridge design (which is vintage correct for the most part) than with the actual quality of the guitar. The original design jag/jazz bridge is one of the most hated pieces of guitar hardware ever produced.

Remulak posted:

A CNC machine doesn't care what country it's in.

True, but most of the quality issues with foreign guitars come in the form of fit and finish issues - poorly glued necks, bad fretwork, poor soldering, lovely hardware, etc. Pretty much any guitar body you get is going to be good quality regardless of where it's made since the switch to CNC machines.

# ? Feb 10, 2014 16:44

Barnaby Rudge: Jan 15, 2011; so your telling me you wasn't drunk or fucked up in anyway.when you had sex with me and that monkey; Soiled Meat

skudmunky posted:

Go wind some pickups and let me know if you still think that. You ever have to deal with 42 gauge wire?

As I said, I wind my own pickups, so yea. Once you know the right tension, it's fine, maybe the soldering is slightly fiddly, but it's far from impossible. Most of the OEM stuff is fully automated too, press button, whizz, done.

My pickup winding machine is made from an old drill with a magnet on the chuck hooked up to a calculator with a reed switch to count the revolutions all mounted to a block of wood with some guide/tensioner arms made out of bent coat-hangers. You calculate the amount of turns needed to get the required resistance, stand there and count, not something I'd count as craft, but I guess that's subjective.

# ? Feb 10, 2014 16:52

Barnaby Rudge: Jan 15, 2011; so your telling me you wasn't drunk or fucked up in anyway.when you had sex with me and that monkey; Soiled Meat

Zonekeeper posted:

True, but most of the quality issues with foreign guitars come in the form of fit and finish issues - poorly glued necks, bad fretwork, poor soldering, lovely hardware, etc. Pretty much any guitar body you get is going to be good quality regardless of where it's made since the switch to CNC machines.

They don't check for knots around the neck routs, which is why you sometimes see them with cracked necks (avoid a guitar like this unless you want to strip it or use it as wall-art) I've seen some sloppy fitting neck pockets too. You just have to shop around a bit really. You just have to look at a few to find a decent example sometimes.

# ? Feb 10, 2014 16:58

Rhopunzel: Jan 6, 2006; Stroll together, win together

# ? Feb 10, 2014 17:57

Alec Bald Snatch: Sep 12, 2012; by exmarx

Remulak posted:

A CNC machine doesn't care what country it's in.

the guy punching in the cut dimensions and lining up the wood blanks may or may not be competent though

even the cheapest mass market stuff still has a lot of hands-on work involved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImMbdFuHNlI

# ? Feb 11, 2014 01:42

Snowy: Oct 6, 2010; A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense

Goddamn that guy is awesome

# ? Feb 11, 2014 02:01

I Might Be Adam: Jun 12, 2007; Skip the Waves, Syncopate
Forwards Backwards

comes along bort posted:

the guy punching in the cut dimensions and lining up the wood blanks may or may not be competent though

even the cheapest mass market stuff still has a lot of hands-on work involved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImMbdFuHNlI

The end of that video has like a wall of shame for ugly guitars. BUTTERFLY GUITAR!

# ? Feb 11, 2014 02:50

El Estrago Bonito: Dec 17, 2010; Scout Finch Bitch

Ok ok ok.

I asked this thread once but Ima do it again because you guys had good hardware suggestions.

I'm refinishing this Tele. It's from my Pyschobilly phase and its a powder blue tele with a portrait of zombie Bettie Page on the back.

Yes seriously.

Anyways a friend tried a half assed refinish job so right now it has sort of the remnants of Bettie page on the back and a very spotty finish.

What color/style/etc should I go for if I want to make an rear end kickin' tacky guitar. I might donate it to my old school when it's done, so teenage metalheads and indie kids will be jamming on it (take this into consideration). I have access to fairly technical painting supplies because I paint manbarbie warhammer figures for a living.

I was thinking either a weathered metal with blood splatters or maybe sparkle pink.

Speaking of Gibson copies that are actually good: the Daisy Rock Candy. It's an extremely basic but really well built short scale LP clone. It's very punk rock with its single pickup, single knob setup. Unlike other Daisy Rock stuff it is not First Act level trash (see: their bass guitars) and you can score them on CL for like 75 bucks sometimes.

Gibsons build quality is so bad that when I started work on my recent project (it's a guitar from an ANIME that I want for hangin on walls) I chose to go with an Agile archtop LP because all the reviews said they had the same sound and better build quality for a cheaper price.

El Estrago Bonito fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Feb 11, 2014

# ? Feb 11, 2014 03:40

Barnaby Rudge: Jan 15, 2011; so your telling me you wasn't drunk or fucked up in anyway.when you had sex with me and that monkey; Soiled Meat

El Estrago Bonito posted:

Ok ok ok.

I asked this thread once but Ima do it again because you guys had good hardware suggestions.

I'm refinishing this Tele. It's from my Pyschobilly phase and its a powder blue tele with a portrait of zombie Bettie Page on the back.

Yes seriously.

Anyways a friend tried a half assed refinish job so right now it has sort of the remnants of Bettie page on the back and a very spotty finish.

What color/style/etc should I go for if I want to make an rear end kickin' tacky guitar. I might donate it to my old school when it's done, so teenage metalheads and indie kids will be jamming on it (take this into consideration). I have access to fairly technical painting supplies because I paint manbarbie warhammer figures for a living.

I was thinking either a weathered metal with blood splatters or maybe sparkle pink.

Speaking of Gibson copies that are actually good: the Daisy Rock debutante. It's an extremely basic but really well built short scale LP clone. It's very punk rock with its single pickup, single knob setup. Unlike other Daisy Rock stuff it is not First Act level trash (see: their bass guitars) and you can score them on CL for like 75 bucks sometimes.

Gibsons build quality is so bad that when I started work on my recent project (it's a guitar from an ANIME that I want for hangin on walls) I chose to go with an Agile archtop LP because all the reviews said they had the same sound and better build quality for a cheaper price.

Get some vile sparkly wrapping paper and some spray adhesive and a can of spray-on finish. Cheap, easy and sleazy.

e: Just make sure to use good quality wrapping paper otherwise you'll have fun with wrinkles, that or use wallpaper.

# ? Feb 11, 2014 03:44

El Estrago Bonito: Dec 17, 2010; Scout Finch Bitch

White Dog Eggs posted:

Get some vile sparkly wrapping paper and some spray adhesive and a can of spray-on finish. Cheap, easy and sleazy.

e: Just make sure to use good quality wrapping paper otherwise you'll have fun with wrinkles, that or use wallpaper.

I have a can of this stuff called Glitter Blast thats used to do wall decals and stuff for kids rooms. It's basically sticky sparkles in a can.

# ? Feb 11, 2014 03:57

Dang It Bhabhi!: May 27, 2004; ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
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#1 SIMP

In high school I somehow acquired a les paul that had been "refinished" in elmer's and silver glitter. No lacquer or finish or whatever... just millions of now-sharpened-by-glue glitter blades. I only played it once... with my band at some backyard party because I thought it looked dumb-cool. Nary a knuckle was spared that night. Might as well have played a cheese grater.

# ? Feb 11, 2014 04:38

Rob Ford: Aug 12, 2013; by XyloJW

El Estrago Bonito posted:

I have a can of this stuff called Glitter Blast thats used to do wall decals and stuff for kids rooms. It's basically sticky sparkles in a can.

Glue some macaroni to the front of the body first.

# ? Feb 11, 2014 04:52

Alec Bald Snatch: Sep 12, 2012; by exmarx

Rob Ford posted:

Glue some macaroni to the front of the body first.

and a pine cone

# ? Feb 11, 2014 05:08

Hollis Brownsound: Apr 2, 2009; by Lowtax

Giant googly eyes on the head stock in lieu of a logo.

# ? Feb 11, 2014 05:28

Alec Bald Snatch: Sep 12, 2012; by exmarx

wait are we giving white dog eggs more requests for the goontar?

# ? Feb 11, 2014 05:28

Cobalt60: Jun 1, 2006

Local CraigsList is really a neverending font of content for this thread.

# ? Feb 11, 2014 06:11

I Might Be Adam: Jun 12, 2007; Skip the Waves, Syncopate
Forwards Backwards

Cobalt60 posted:

Local CraigsList is really a neverending font of content for this thread.

It took me a bit to realize the guitar on the left is a Joker guitar. I thought it was just a guitar that someone themed after the 80s.

"Here's my 'Batman Guitar' and what I like to call 'The 80s Guitar'"

# ? Feb 11, 2014 06:25

Jivesauce: Nov 22, 2007

Harry in Rio posted:

The Epiphone SG Pro sounds great. You can split coils, it's light and I recorded with one. I own a few Gibsons. That Epi right now is working harder than a loving whore on nickel night. Perfect frets, great intonation, I can beat the poo poo out of it. Stays in tune.

So yeah, as a guy who owns a few Gibby SG's, I have to say, you're paying for a fuckin' name. Good luck with that. And if you get name shamed, then you probably suck anyway and should take up autoharp or worse, djent.

I have one of these also, as well as an Epiphone Les Paul. They're both really nice at a quarter of the price or less of the Gibson equivalent. The Les Paul even came with Gibson '57 Classic pickups; I can't imagine why I would ever buy an actual Gibson.

# ? Feb 11, 2014 06:30

ZombieParts: Jul 18, 2009; ASK ME ABOUT VISITING PROSTITUTES IN CHINA AND FEELING NO SHAME. MY FRIEND IS SERIOUSLY THE (PATHETIC) YODA OF PAYING WOMEN TO TOUCH HIS (AND MY) DICK. THEY WOULDN'T DO IT OTHERWISE.

Jivesauce posted:

I have one of these also, as well as an Epiphone Les Paul. They're both really nice at a quarter of the price or less of the Gibson equivalent. The Les Paul even came with Gibson '57 Classic pickups; I can't imagine why I would ever buy an actual Gibson.

Epiphone and Squier have been on their games for quite a few years now.

# ? Feb 11, 2014 07:16

axolotl farmer: May 17, 2007; Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

El Estrago Bonito posted:

What color/style/etc should I go for if I want to make an rear end kickin' tacky guitar.

Do the dip thing where you float swirly paint on water.

# ? Feb 11, 2014 12:05

Manky: Mar 20, 2007; Fun Shoe

Cobalt60 posted:

Local CraigsList is really a neverending font of content for this thread.

Joker just wants a hug!

# ? Feb 11, 2014 13:36

Barnaby Rudge: Jan 15, 2011; so your telling me you wasn't drunk or fucked up in anyway.when you had sex with me and that monkey; Soiled Meat

El Estrago Bonito posted:

I have a can of this stuff called Glitter Blast thats used to do wall decals and stuff for kids rooms. It's basically sticky sparkles in a can.

Do it!

# ? Feb 11, 2014 15:35

Astrobastard: Dec 31, 2008; Winky Face

Managed to get close to Faustus territory with these. Close.

http://www.haloguitars.com/store/custom-guitars.html

# ? Feb 11, 2014 16:26

Spanish Manlove: Aug 31, 2008; HAILGAYSATAN

What do you guys think about a thread title change to "Post dumb guitar poo poo [56k plays bass]" or does anyone else have a funnier idea?

# ? Feb 11, 2014 16:34

Declan MacManus: Sep 1, 2011; damn i'm really in this bitch

Spanish Manlove posted:

What do you guys think about a thread title change to "Post dumb guitar poo poo [56k plays bass]" or does anyone else have a funnier idea?

guitar thread: weedly weedly weedly wee [56k and faustus no]

# ? Feb 11, 2014 16:53

Dewgy: Nov 10, 2005; ~🚚special delivery~📦

only ugly guitar nerds itt

# ? Feb 11, 2014 16:55

Declan MacManus: Sep 1, 2011; damn i'm really in this bitch

Dewgy posted:

only ugly guitar nerds itt

but then where will i post

also

quote:

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this seems like a good opportunity

Declan MacManus fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Feb 11, 2014

# ? Feb 11, 2014 17:00

Renegret: May 26, 2007; THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*

Cat Army Sworn Enemy

I approve of the Guitar Crew title change.

# ? Feb 11, 2014 17:28

Renegret: May 26, 2007; THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*

Cat Army Sworn Enemy

# ? Feb 11, 2014 17:29

Deleuzionist: Jul 20, 2010; we respect the antelope; for the antelope is not a mere antelope

Astrobastard posted:

I'd buy that for 999.

# ? Feb 11, 2014 17:42

Zonekeeper: Oct 27, 2007

Renegret posted:

I approve of the Guitar Crew title change.

The title says 'music equipment' now, so it's open season on lovely instruments of all kinds in addition to guitars. :getin:

# ? Feb 11, 2014 17:42

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# ? May 28, 2024 04:45

Troglyfe: Jan 2, 2014

Zonekeeper posted:

The title says 'music equipment' now, so it's open season on lovely instruments of all kinds in addition to guitars.

Let's just get this one out of the way, then.

Garbage: the instrument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7gXLqMe5Bw

# ? Feb 11, 2014 17:45

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