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You need to find a "Dunmer savant" and "Dunmer scout." The combination of those two can help you find almost any town/camp you're looking for. I know there's one of each in the Balmora Council House.
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SunAndSpring posted:The Dwemer were loving hilarious. Remember that one part in Skyrim where you learn what happened to the Snow Elves? Specifically, that the Dwemer let them into their homes, mutated them with alchemy, and then made them bestial enough to change their souls from black (which all sapient beings have) to white (which only animals and most Daedra have), just so they could be harvested for use in non-essential soul gems in their robots? Fun times. the changes they made to the dwemer aethetics in skyrim really irked me i mean i really dodn't explore many dwemer ruins in morrowind because there was rarely ever anything there, but at least they had a really crazy style to them. the skyrim dwemer are really boring in comparison, crazy machines aside. also if i had my way, elder scrolls 6 would take place in morrowind (all of it) with morrowind's dwemer aesthetic in the age where the dwemer were still around. maybe right before they hosed themselves. it could be a really, really awesome world to do a game in. which means it won't happen.
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Feb 13, 2014 07:07
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Cannot Find Server posted:the changes they made to the dwemer aethetics in skyrim really irked me i think you may be misremembering how cool dwemer ruins in morrowind were. they were cool enough but they looked like metal russian churches and the interiors werent anything. if anything skyrim put more character into the architecture imo
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SunAndSpring posted:
ebay that poo poo. i got the morrowind special edition art book for like 10 bucks last year
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Blue Raider posted:i think you may be misremembering how cool dwemer ruins in morrowind were. they were cool enough but they looked like metal russian churches and the interiors werent anything. if anything skyrim put more character into the architecture imo i liked the complete lack of character though. the dwemer in lore came across as no-bullshit, assholeish, reclusive scientists. their poo poo in morrowind gives off the same impression. it isn't pretty, it is all about function. and i'm definitely not misremembering because i started a new game a couple days ago and have been to three of them so far.
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I'd totally be down for a single player TES game set during the Nord invasion of Morrowind, or during the war between the dwemer and chimer that followed. It wouldn't actually have Dunmer in it but whatevs.
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Feb 13, 2014 07:13
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SunAndSpring posted:
I still have that somewhere.
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Really want to play Morrowind now but don't know where the gently caress my discs are.
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Feb 13, 2014 07:24
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Irradiation posted:Really want to play Morrowind now but don't know where the gently caress my discs are. It's on Steam, works just fine with all mods, etc.
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Feb 13, 2014 07:25
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Cantorsdust posted:It's on Steam, works just fine with all mods, etc. Only thing Steam doesn't have is the Creation Kit but they might have fixed that since it first came out on Steam.
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Feb 13, 2014 07:31
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I ain't paying $20 for something I already own.
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hailthefish posted:I'd totally be down for a single player TES game set during the Nord invasion of Morrowind, or during the war between the dwemer and chimer that followed. It wouldn't actually have Dunmer in it but whatevs. This, and being anything but a dark elf makes most towns barely tolerate you (merchants try to gouge you on wares) or are downright hostile. Staying on the roads makes you vulnerable to dunmer or orc mercenary death squads. the night dad fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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Feb 13, 2014 07:49
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Asking if you "finished" any of the games is kinda silly imo. I never even got close to beating the MQ in Skyrim but I did both expansions (and, let's say due to console fuckery, somehow broke Dragonborn so the MQ just never happened,) have probably sunk ~300 hours into the game total and discovered just about every location on the map, and I'm still playing it so I dunno. Oblivion's MQ is dogshit but Shivering Isles is still literally my favorite Elder Scrolls-anything (ofc. it helps that the big pie faces and weird grins actually go well with the NPCs there). I considered myself done with Oblivion when I became the Madgod and ended it with my char sitting on his throne flanked by gold and violet amazon servants.
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Shivering Isles reminded me, y'all have to admit it was cool to see the Champion of Cyrodil make an appearance in Skyrim
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Dr. Lenin posted:Shivering Isles reminded me, y'all have to admit it was cool to see the Champion of Cyrodil make an appearance in Skyrim yea and neloth as well
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Seriously the design work that went into Shivering Isles was amazing and makes me wish we could have had it with Skyrim level detail so bad.   http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Concept_Art
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Blue Raider posted:yea and neloth as well I just got that part in Dragonborn yesterday and was like oh poo poo it's my boi, and he's still a prick
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Feb 13, 2014 08:18
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Found it in first moving box I opened.  Found Bloodmoon but not Tribunal. 
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Feb 13, 2014 08:20
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Alright I guess I'm playing Morrowind again. I'm going to need links to modding stuff!
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Saying Skyrim/Oblivion look better than Morrowind is kind of wrong imo even without mods - yeah they have fancy shader bullshit and bump mapping, but it really quickly becomes evident that their look isn't actually functional. You could drop me into any part of Morrowind and I could say hey, I'm probably near Vivec, or I'm probably near Sadrith Mora, and then navigate to anywhere else by walking around signposted paths and foyadas with landmarks, without looking at the map. Skyrim and Oblivion look great until you realise everywhere looks the loving same and it's not really built for travelling, you can't realistically go anywhere without the map. Same with the towns, you instantly know what MW town you're in and what house owns it by architecture, in Oblivion I could not tell you anything about any city except the IC. They did improve that in Skyrim to be fair. MK will be sending us all a C0DA love letter tomorrow!
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Alright I guess I'm playing Morrowind again. I'm going to need links to modding stuff! http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3430891
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there's a difference between graphics and art direction morrowind has better art direction, oblivion/skyrim have better graphics imo art direction is more important, for example all the remakes of final fantasy 1-6 all look much worse tahn the originals
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Counterpoint: also  e: I mean yes I'm only talking about character design and execution but Skyrim's character design and execution are light years ahead of MW's, which of course isn't very fair because MW's faces are much simpler, but holy poo poo it was impossible to come up with a face that was even REMOTELY normal looking let alone appealing. I feel these are fairly important aspects of a game in which you play the role of a person or what we like to call a role playing game Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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Feb 13, 2014 08:53
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An Elder Scrolls where people don't look either haggard and sharp-featured or gonk as gently caress isn't an Elder Scrolls that looks right, imo
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Saying Skyrim/Oblivion look better than Morrowind is kind of wrong imo even without mods - yeah they have fancy shader bullshit and bump mapping, but it really quickly becomes evident that their look isn't actually functional. You could drop me into any part of Morrowind and I could say hey, I'm probably near Vivec, or I'm probably near Sadrith Mora, and then navigate to anywhere else by walking around signposted paths and foyadas with landmarks, without looking at the map. Skyrim and Oblivion look great until you realise everywhere looks the loving same and it's not really built for travelling, you can't realistically go anywhere without the map. Same with the towns, you instantly know what MW town you're in and what house owns it by architecture, in Oblivion I could not tell you anything about any city except the IC. They did improve that in Skyrim to be fair. this is actually really true. like in morrowind you could get lost and go up a mountain and look around to see where you were. oblivion and skyrim are like daggerfall, they're big but there's nothing much to see coolest thing in morrowind was seeing the ghost fence for the first time
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SmokaDustbowl posted:coolest thing in morrowind was seeing the ghost fence for the first time I remember all those years ago when I first played Morrowind, I came upon Ghotfence and saw a lone ash monster banging his head on the wall. Was so scared that I couldn't come near the fence for quite some time.
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Saying Skyrim/Oblivion look better than Morrowind is kind of wrong imo even without mods - yeah they have fancy shader bullshit and bump mapping, but it really quickly becomes evident that their look isn't actually functional. You could drop me into any part of Morrowind and I could say hey, I'm probably near Vivec, or I'm probably near Sadrith Mora, and then navigate to anywhere else by walking around signposted paths and foyadas with landmarks, without looking at the map. Skyrim and Oblivion look great until you realise everywhere looks the loving same and it's not really built for travelling, you can't realistically go anywhere without the map. Same with the towns, you instantly know what MW town you're in and what house owns it by architecture, in Oblivion I could not tell you anything about any city except the IC. They did improve that in Skyrim to be fair. skyrim is a bit better in this department. the southern highlands near riften have their own kind of look to them, for example. it's not as drastic a difference between areas as morrowind's at all, sure, but it's still much, much improved over oblivion, where aside from the swamps near lewaiin, i could never tell where i was at all without a map. playing morrowind again the past couple days really does drive home to me how loving well it does what you're talking about though. so much more care went into building that game's world, and it becomes so apparent. even things like generic random bandit caves have so many little touches to them, versus when you're playing skyrim and it's blatantly obvious that caves in that game were all derived from a few small puzzle pieces put together. the only complaint i have these days about morrowind is remembering where poo poo is. i wish i could forget and discover it all over again 
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Disco Infiva posted:I remember all those years ago when I first played Morrowind, I came upon Ghotfence and saw a lone ash monster banging his head on the wall. Was so scared that I couldn't come near the fence for quite some time. the ash creatures were creepy as poo poo. especially ascended sleepers. those and the ash creatures that don't have faces just get under my skin and creep me the hell out in a way that very few games ever have. the entire atmosphere of 6th house bases is really well done as well. i remember finding kogoruhn for the first time, thinking it was just another dunmer fortress like the other 5 i'd been to. oh man was i wrong, that place is the hosed-est place in the game and it still makes my skin crawl.
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Awesome! I'll be up and ready to play in a week or two!
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i feel like i was in a huge minority for disliking oblivion at the time, the only people that seemed to share my opinion were on fuckin RPG Codex. now skyrim is out and everyone has gone from "yeah everyone hated oblivion but this game is rad" to "skyrim got kinda boring morrowind owns" over the course of a couple of years and its like some strange bizarro world
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Flesh Forge posted:Counterpoint: Counterpoint to what, those look like terrible ~hot female character~ mods. i guess if you have absolutely no taste they're better SmokaDustbowl posted:coolest thing in morrowind was seeing the ghost fence for the first time Also seeing a netch for the first time and freaking out because WHAT IS THAT THING I think a lot of people tried to attack the silt strider first time as well.
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WEEDLORD CHEETO posted:i feel like i was in a huge minority for disliking oblivion at the time, the only people that seemed to share my opinion were on fuckin RPG Codex. now skyrim is out and everyone has gone from "yeah everyone hated oblivion but this game is rad" to "skyrim got kinda boring morrowind owns" over the course of a couple of years and its like some strange bizarro world i always thought oblivion was bad but also played it for like 100 hours so ???
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WEEDLORD CHEETO posted:i feel like i was in a huge minority for disliking oblivion at the time, the only people that seemed to share my opinion were on fuckin RPG Codex. now skyrim is out and everyone has gone from "yeah everyone hated oblivion but this game is rad" to "skyrim got kinda boring morrowind owns" over the course of a couple of years and its like some strange bizarro world regardless of whether someone personally thinks skyrim is any good (i do like the game, not nearly as much as morrowind obviously but w/e), i think that anyone who played oblivion and then skyrim would have to have realized how bad oblivion was and how much better skyrim is. though i'm not entirely sure how anyone could have liked oblivion in the first place, even if they hadn't played morrowind, because the game is just annoying as hell. the level scaling is annoying, the quests are annoying, the oblivion gates are annoying, the combat is extremely annoying. the only parts of oblivion that are not annoying are just bland as all hell instead. the only part of oblivion that was kind of cool was that fighter's guild quest where you get high as balls and slaughter a village. and when a fighter's guild quest is a highlight of an elder scrolls game, that's when you know the game sucks.
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Playing a vampire in Oblivion was really cool because sunlight would loving kill you if you hadn't fed recently, but you couldn't drown so you could hide under the goddamn lake by the Imperial docks during the day and emerge at night like a loving horror movie e: Also the Daedric dungeons where chests were literally reshaped carcasses of bloody flesh I actually got expelled from the mage's guild while doing the Skingrad rec-letter quest, which involves escorting this goddamn chubby bosmer named Erthor back to the building. This meant I couldn't complete the quest until I did the stupid fetch quest to get back into the Mage Guild and was stuck with Erthor as a follower for 20 game hours. He would attack me every time I did a crime too, so I had to kick his rear end a bunch. Hilariously though by the end he was summoning upper-level Daedra and poo poo so at least I hardened up the little bastard. Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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Hmong Moms posted:there's a difference between graphics and art direction God no, no you just need better hardware and it looks better no matter what!
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WEEDLORD CHEETO posted:i feel like i was in a huge minority for disliking oblivion at the time, the only people that seemed to share my opinion were on fuckin RPG Codex. now skyrim is out and everyone has gone from "yeah everyone hated oblivion but this game is rad" to "skyrim got kinda boring morrowind owns" over the course of a couple of years and its like some strange bizarro world i didn't play either oblivion or skyrim so ignore me and this is kind of meta. i'm a gold star morrowind player. Hmong Moms posted:there's a difference between graphics and art direction
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:Counterpoint to what, those look like terrible ~hot female character~ mods. i guess if you have absolutely no taste they're better Um no, those are pretty minimally modded (I personally shitcanned the dumb Pixar Face Breton normal map and subbed the much more ordinary Nord normal map). If you think Morrowind's faces are more appealing than those two samples I don't know what the gently caress, something is wired terribly backwards in your brain. Morrowind was a great game but holy gently caress it had the ugliest characters ever. And I mean ugly in the badly-executed and primitive sense, Skyrim does intentional ugly (e.g. with Orcs) much better too.
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