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Anatharon posted:Or FE on mars. What would the weapon triangle look like? Assuming they don't go with a sort of Star Wars faux-feudal system, I imagine characters would be more like modern shooter archetypes. Assault Rifles/Shotguns/SMGs with Sniper Rifles taking the place of bows? "Magic" characters use explosive like mortars, grenades and bazookas?
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Feb 10, 2014 00:51
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But...but...then how is it Fire Emblem!? 
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Lotish posted:What would the weapon triangle look like? Assuming they don't go with a sort of Star Wars faux-feudal system, I imagine characters would be more like modern shooter archetypes. Assault Rifles/Shotguns/SMGs with Sniper Rifles taking the place of bows? "Magic" characters use explosive like mortars, grenades and bazookas? Tanks beat Anti-Air beat Helicopters beat Tanks Wait
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Anatharon posted:That's not too bad. I mean, certain other Fire Emblem games I can think of had straight up incest as a thing the plot revolved around, that's relatively tame. I still find it hilarious that Awakening is the first time incest has ever made it outside of Japan, though. The entire series has this big reputation for it but you could never see it without playing FE4/5 until now. I suppose the internet is just unhealthily focused on people loving their relatives.
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Feb 10, 2014 01:05
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Sacred Stones was also really infamous for it thanks to the support conversations between Ephraim and Eirika.
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ungulateman posted:I still find it hilarious that Awakening is the first time incest has ever made it outside of Japan, though. The entire series has this big reputation for it but you could never see it without playing FE4/5 until now. I suppose the internet is just unhealthily focused on people loving their relatives. What? It wasn't front and center or anything, but it was definitely in 7. Priscilla really liked her brother. Really liked him.
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ungulateman posted:I suppose the internet is just unhealthily focused on people loving their relatives.
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Artix posted:What? It wasn't front and center or anything, but it was definitely in 7. Priscilla really liked her brother. Really liked him. Eeeh, that one got a bit of an unfair rap. She's creepily clingy, granted, but it's more in a "Hey last known living relative, don't go get killed in a pointless crusade" way rather than "You, my bed, now".
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Feb 10, 2014 11:41
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I was actually hesitating about mentioning Priscilla because I didn't want to display my in-depth knowledge of incestuous relationships in Fire Emblem so, y'know.
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I'm not really sure what to do with my Cynthia. Henry's the dad, so she has an alright class set, but doesn't get much in the way of good offensive skills outside of Galeforce. If I make her an Assassin she's just gonna be inferior to everyone else due to a lack of Swordfaire, Armsthrift, Aggressor, etc. Do I go with Great Knight, and just give her some utility skills like Dual Guard+ to round her out a bit? Or something else? e: Regarding the incest thing, there isn't even any of that in Awakening unless you count Aversa being MU's sister sort of? And in Sacred Stones it was just mentioned in an ending that they were married, without anything else talked about or even hinted at alongside that, so...
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Feb 11, 2014 01:32
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I dunno. I never saw any incest between Priscilla and Raven. Family can care about each other without it leading there.
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You could just make Cynthia a Sorcerer, they're essentially the most broken class in the game. As for Awakening incest, you could have Lucina and Owain S support each other, as well as some other combination with Morgan or Kjelle if he/she was a descendant of Chrom/Lissa. The game terms them as Companions instead of Husband/Wife in that case, though.
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Nihilarian posted:I dunno. I never saw any incest between Priscilla and Raven. Family can care about each other without it leading there. She wanted to do some marraige thing in the C support? I don't really remember. Also: Pull up thread, pull up.
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ApplesandOranges posted:You could just make Cynthia a Sorcerer, they're essentially the most broken class in the game. Is the game smart enough to use Companion if go out of your way to pair up someone with their own uncle via Avatar = Lucina --> Morgan = Owain? Vorpal Cat fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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Feb 11, 2014 01:49
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Yup, I think so.
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ApplesandOranges posted:You could just make Cynthia a Sorcerer, they're essentially the most broken class in the game. I guess that's true, but she doesn't have access to Vantage or Armsthrift so again she'd be strictly worse than the four fully tricked out Sorcerers I already have. It's kind of a shame that she ends up getting screwed over by lack of options compared to the rest of the cast, and her one good father option (Chrom) is so much better elsewhere.
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Make her a Bride and have her be a support, if you have that DLC. It's not the best canidate, but eh. Throw some combat skills in too because Brides are almost as good as Dread Fighters for fighting. Then you can never bother with Sages or Valkyries. If you don't have the DLC, do it but as a Falcoknight, I suppose.
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Anatharon posted:Make her a Bride and have her be a support, if you have that DLC. It's not the best canidate, but eh. Throw some combat skills in too because Brides are almost as good as Dread Fighters for fighting. Then you can never bother with Sages or Valkyries. This is a really good idea, actually. I can throw Lancefaire on her and have her be my team's sole dedicated lance user, alongside Owain being the only axe user. I always overlook Bride as having nothing relevant for anyone but rally bots, but it's a pretty solid class to end up in if you can't cut it as an Assassin or Sorcerer. Thanks for the suggestion!
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The Shortest Path posted:I'm not really sure what to do with my Cynthia. Henry's the dad, so she has an alright class set, but doesn't get much in the way of good offensive skills outside of Galeforce. If I make her an Assassin she's just gonna be inferior to everyone else due to a lack of Swordfaire, Armsthrift, Aggressor, etc. Do I go with Great Knight, and just give her some utility skills like Dual Guard+ to round her out a bit? Or something else?
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Get Innocuous! posted:Sacred Stones was also really infamous for it thanks to the support conversations between Ephraim and Eirika. The only thing that implied incest was that they were twins. Also, I don't really remember any in Awakening. Who is it that you can pair up?
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The Shortest Path posted:I guess that's true, but she doesn't have access to Vantage or Armsthrift so again she'd be strictly worse than the four fully tricked out Sorcerers I already have. It's kind of a shame that she ends up getting screwed over by lack of options compared to the rest of the cast, and her one good father option (Chrom) is so much better elsewhere. Actually I think Henry is her best dad - Gaius just overkills her with a speed overdose and while Chrom passes down Aether, which is nice, Cynthia doesn't desperately need it and Lucina has better mothers. Henry can give Cynthia an exclusive skill from the Barbarian line, and allows access to Lifetaker, Dual Support+ and Tomebreaker. He also gives her more Magic in case you want to keep her as a Dark Flier. Momomo posted:The only thing that implied incest was that they were twins. Lucina/Owain, Owain/Kjelle (fathered by Chrom), and Morgan using uncle/aunt shenanigans, or Owain/Morgan if she was fathered by Chrom. ApplesandOranges fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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Momomo posted:The only thing that implied incest was that they were twins. Lucina + Owain is the easiest one. The other one is if you have Chrom marry Olivia or Maribelle, then you as a male avatar marry Lucina for a third gen Morgan and have her pair up Inigo/Brady. I checked and the game DOES write it up as a "Companions" bond though! Edit: fb, kinda. We both missed Chrom!Cynthia + Owain. Does Lucina!Morgan + Owain count too?
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Hurray I finally managed to pass Stage 6 finally. I particularly enjoyed the parts where the enemy had dark mages which had a skill to lower my accuracy and evasion. That was a fun time. Aggressive use of chokepoints won me the day eventually.
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I finally beat the stage where you get Severa in Awakening after many, many tries of her killing herself on the enemies and only AFTER that do I remember that Rescue staffs exist. 
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So is it just me or is everyone in Sealed Sword completely loving blind. Lot, you should not have a 29% chance to hit the big fuckoff General with a Steel Axe.
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LordHippoman posted:So is it just me or is everyone in Sealed Sword completely loving blind. Lot, you should not have a 29% chance to hit the big fuckoff General with a Steel Axe. Weapons in Sword of Seals have really bad accuracy and Thrones giving an extra 30 avoid on top of it doesn't help anything. That Steel Axe? Only a 50% chance of hitting before you add in the enemy's avoid. Stick to swords and lances if you ever want to hit anything.
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Artix posted:Weapons in Sword of Seals have really bad accuracy and Thrones giving an extra 30 avoid on top of it doesn't help anything. That Steel Axe? Only a 50% chance of hitting before you add in the enemy's avoid. Stick to swords and lances if you ever want to hit anything. Well hey it's better than that Fire Emblem game where they give you an Axe as a reward and you have no Axe users in that game
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Just a fancy looking bag of gold.
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Volt Catfish posted:Well hey it's better than that Fire Emblem game where they give you an Axe as a reward and you have no Axe users in that game That same game also gave you a legendary lance right before you're thrust into several maps where the only lance users you have are Generals because FE3 forced mounted units to dismount and lose their ability to wield lances because they're indoors.
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e: wait that was just a dream --- Is Onmi's avatar new?
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Anatharon posted:e: wait that was just a dream Last I saw, he didn't even have an avatar, so maybe?
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Artix posted:Weapons in Sword of Seals have really bad accuracy and Thrones giving an extra 30 avoid on top of it doesn't help anything. That Steel Axe? Only a 50% chance of hitting before you add in the enemy's avoid. Stick to swords and lances if you ever want to hit anything. At least the FE6 thrones don't also give a flat 10 bonus to defence (in a game where all stats besides HP cap at 20).
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Lotish posted:Last I saw, he didn't even have an avatar, so maybe? Yeah I feel sorry for whoever brought it. The bushfires started up about the time so I was more worried about my house burning down than a silly avatar. I sincerely hope they got a good laugh out of it though.
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Bishop Rodan posted:At least the FE6 thrones don't also give a flat 10 bonus to defence (in a game where all stats besides HP cap at 20). Thracia gives you way more ways to hit through both high defense and high avoid than Sword of Seals gives you to hit through high avoid. I'll take Gustav and his 54 HP/30 Defense but relatively low avoid over Gel and his 97 avoid in a game where most units struggle to break 120 hit.
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 Look at that, we're not dead! (Believe me, we're surprised too  ) We're working on getting the actual plot for Chapter 1-6 inserted into the ROM, and development is pushing forward on Chapters 7 and 8. Maps are completely done for Act 1, so it's just a matter of putting enemies down on them and setting up the events. Hopefully that should be done in the next month or so, but I'm not going to make any promises. Here's a few updates on various things going on:On my end, Hard Mode is done up through Chapter 5, but I'm probably going to back and redo Chapter 2 because I'm not happy with how it turned out.  Anyway, I don't know if I ever really went into what I'm trying to do (and going to miserably fail at, but let's not get ahead of ourselves). This is the prologue on normal mode - all of the enemies are soldiers (which have been buffed since we have a playable soldier, but they're still not super dangerous...yet), and they only ever move if you get in their range. Judith can effortlessly solo the chapter, to say the least.  But here's the hard mode version. For starters, I've swapped out one of the solders for a fighter; still not very dangerous, but this is only the prologue. I've also tweaked their AI a bit - now all of the enemies will charge you at once, and because the fighter has been pulled back a little bit, he and the boss arrive at roughly the same time, rather than with the front soldier.  As another example, here's part of Chapter 1. The village in the center holds 3000 Gold, but it's not particularly difficult to rush over to it. A bandit spawns down in the bottom-right corner on turn 2, but you have to try pretty hard to let him get there before you can.  But again, enter Hard Mode. I haven't actually added any enemies here, but I've moved the mercenary much closer to the village to keep you from rushing Judith over there. In addition, that bandit is now there from the start (because I hate you).  And speaking of maps, here's Chapter 9 - the final map in Act 1. This chapter takes place in the Athanian palace, and is actually only half the complete palace map. There's an upper half for a chapter that also takes place in the palace in Act 2.  Lastly, a couple portraits to share. Edgar is a mercenary, a man willing to do any kind of odd job as long as the price is right.  Fia is a mage with a bit of a pyromania streak. She's an alchemist of sorts, but that's usually just an excuse to make things explode.  Finally, Melanie is a peg knight from about halfway through the game. One look at her tells you pretty much everything about her. PoorlyWrittenNovel posted:
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As always, you can come hang out with us in the Awful Emblem IRC channel. We're going to do a balancing release once we have all of Act 1's gameplay set, then a full release once we have plot, supports, and everything else ready. Server: irc.synirc.net Channel: #awfulemblem Artix fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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In all fairness, dinkins is pretty good when he isn't channeling the spirit of Ballz. I have to edit his stuff and I only yell at him sometimes. e: I'm sorry Ballz!!. 
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SC Bracer posted:In all fairness, dinkins is pretty good when he isn't channeling the spirit of Ballz. I have to edit his stuff and I only yell at him sometimes. I'll have you know that his name is Ballz!!. The exclamation marks are mandatory, something you'd understand if you stopped yelling at me
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ddinkins112 posted:I'll have you know that his name is Ballz!!. The exclamation marks are mandatory, something you'd understand if you stopped yelling at me It's good to see that, even at this early stage, we're looking at a rich and diverse setting, filled with deep themes and fleshed out cultures.
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chiasaur11 posted:It's good to see that, even at this early stage, we're looking at a rich and diverse setting, filled with deep themes and fleshed out cultures. And the rich colors! I call this one "A Rainy Night in Falnor". 
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