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OAquinas posted:I don't think he was saying that steroid use was not harmful, but rather that it was the more-likely harmful condition for young males than eating disorders...though these days I wonder if that's still the case. He was just saying that he only ever saw PSAs about how bad steroids are, but never any PSAs about how bad eating disorders are, even though eating disorders are just as dangerous.
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Just saw this posted on facebook:quote:Colic a good reason for abortion?!? So now we justify abortion because babies cry, and #aintnobodygottimeforthat ? http://t.co/OTb2iXS8IQ Babbys should be aborted because they CRY?! 
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Feb 13, 2014 19:20
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If I heard something crying out of my vagina for three days at a time I might want to get it out of there as well.
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Feb 13, 2014 19:23
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namesake posted:If I heard something crying out of my vagina for three days at a time I might want to get it out of there as well. Banshees? In my vagina? It's more common than you think.
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Feb 13, 2014 20:12
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RagnarokAngel posted:It had a revival a few years ago but it's probably not surging right now. I mean frankly it's more talking about a broader social problem than just He-Man and thinking it's just about He-Man is being kind of obtuse. The author probably just picked a figure from their childhood. But Boys ARE given these role models who are buff and teach that you should solve problems with fighting rather than talking. Whether it's He-Man, Power Rangers, Ninja Turtles, whatever the problem is still the same. Interestingly, similar to the Barbie problem girls have, look at Star Wars action figures from the 70s, theyre often a lot more waifish, whereas today theyre significantly more buff, even the same character will have put on some muscle in the past few decades. Turtles taught me to solve problems by eating pizza and dancing with a boombox so I don't see the issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymFDtbk2teE  Who What Now posted:Banshees? In my vagina?  I can't miss this special report from my local news station.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:05
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Badera posted:Just saw this posted on facebook: “I want to let you know that we as women know about babies. We love them. We adore them. But we also know that they have the challenges they bring. They have colic, the sleepless nights, the finances, the disciplinary challenges, the education challenges, the birth defects, the mental health issues, the learning disabled…the list goes on and on. And what women do know is that we know where our limits are. We absolutely know where our limits are –whether we’re ready, whether we’re physically ready, whether we’re emotionally ready, whether we’re financially ready to be parents– And we have the right to make those decisions.” The right to make personal decisions without the government deciding for you = COMMUNISM, because sluts 
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pd187 posted:“I want to let you know that we as women know about babies. We love them. We adore them. But we also know that they have the challenges they bring. They have colic, the sleepless nights, the finances, the disciplinary challenges, the education challenges, the birth defects, the mental health issues, the learning disabled…the list goes on and on. And what women do know is that we know where our limits are. We absolutely know where our limits are –whether we’re ready, whether we’re physically ready, whether we’re emotionally ready, whether we’re financially ready to be parents– And we have the right to make those decisions.” Same guy posted this: 
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Feb 13, 2014 21:34
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Just got out of a meeting at work about the various kinds of credit fraud to be on the lookout for, and a substantial portion of it was related to sovereign citizens and the various fake legalese they use to try to get out of paying their debts. As soon as the presenter used the phrase 'maritime law' I almost started laughing. Thanks, thread.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:43
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Badera posted:Same guy posted this: Yeah we often forget that in countries with easy access to contraception the status of women in society declines substantially. Those poor meat socks.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:47
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Feb 13, 2014 21:48
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If only they would give those poor nuns some kind of easy out... say signing some easily obtainable short disclosure that says they don't want to pay for birth control, and then they won't. Come on Obama. Easy solution.
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Feb 13, 2014 22:09
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Yawgmoft posted:If only they would give those poor nuns some kind of easy out... say signing some easily obtainable short disclosure that says they don't want to pay for birth control, and then they won't. Come on Obama. Easy solution. Ah, but they would then be making others provide contraceptives!  quote:The form has two pages, not one, and it’s the language on the other page to which the nuns object. Page 2 declares that the form is the “instrument” that triggers the requirement that a third-party administrator provide contraceptive coverage. The nuns don’t want to take any action that (they believe) involves them in facilitating immoral acts, which includes causing other people to perform immoral acts. Signing the form would (in their view) do that. Note, by the way, that houses of worship, which are truly exempt from the administration’s contraceptive mandate, do not have to sign any such form to get that exemption. That fact makes a hash both of Greenhouse’s claim that the Little Sisters of the Poor are “exempt from the mandate” and her (and the administration’s) claim that certification is the only way to prevent the exemption process from sliding into “chaos.”
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Feb 13, 2014 22:17
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Badera posted:Same guy posted this: As opposed to the good old days when they were viewed as heir factories.
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Feb 13, 2014 22:25
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Now that I know babies cry, I have lost all interest in fatherhood. Thanks for killing that dream, thread 
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Feb 13, 2014 23:01
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Kegluneq posted:Obviously you are correct, but there are followup questions. What does a female power fantasy look like? Or a female sex fantasy? He-Man's magic takes his clothing and puts it on his gigantic cat. That is all it does.
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Feb 14, 2014 01:45
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Feb 14, 2014 02:09
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Has this image come up in the thread before? An acquaintance posted it on facebook and it makes me mad.
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Feb 14, 2014 02:12
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I know what you're getting at but this feels like one of those instances where a diplomatic "Y'know, you're right, we should fix both these" would work instead of "man up you babies".
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Feb 14, 2014 02:13
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Breadallelogram posted:Has this image come up in the thread before? An acquaintance posted it on facebook and it makes me mad. Change the bottom one to an old man with a walker.
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Feb 14, 2014 02:16
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Pretty sure both the image and that response have come up before, but it's still funny.
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Feb 14, 2014 02:24
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pacerhimself posted:Change the bottom one to an old man with a walker.
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Feb 14, 2014 02:24
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pacerhimself posted:Change the bottom one to an old man with a walker. If they're supposed to be voting for a living, they're not doing it very well.
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Feb 14, 2014 02:28
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I commented with this, but it might not be good enough:
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Feb 14, 2014 02:39
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pacerhimself posted:Change the bottom one to an old man with a walker.  You can also point out that we spent vastly more on old people, in the form of Social Security and Medicare, than we do on working people, between SNAP, TANF, Section 8, WIC, and every other welfare program. Or that moochers living off the system are vanishingly rare. The majority of improper payments are bureaucratic errors, either eligibility/entitlement or documentation. Of the remaining actual fraud, the majority is committed by service providers, like hospitals claiming for unnecessary procedures or grocery stores buying food stamps for cash. Of fraud committed by beneficiaries, the majority is people claiming to work less than they are. And finally, as much as the other person will complain about how welfare favors black folks and Mexicans, people choosing not to work are the only group that welfare actually screws over. Plus that image is slightly racist; its depiction of "dude who votes for a living" appears to be young, black, urban, rather than the more common old, white, rural.
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Feb 14, 2014 02:50
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pacerhimself posted:Change the bottom one to a guy in a top hat handing a Congressman a bag of money.
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Feb 14, 2014 04:23
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Yeah but the type of people who would post that image macro are also generally on board with the idea of shooting government officials so you'd just be reinforcing their point.
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ETA: ^^ That too. They'd blame the Congressman at least as much as Uncle Pennybags. ^^Zemyla posted:Far more accurate. More accurate, but harder to argue. You have to go through the realities of corporate lobbying, the fact that tax breaks are still welfare spending, and the fact that the rich don't really earn their wealth. Alternatively, you can explain that a) we spend a fuckuva lot on old people compared to young and working people, and b) old people vote more than young people. Actually you can probably just use that last article on its own, because that's the argument in a nutshell.
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The Crotch posted:I have fallen through a time warp to the last time this exact conversation occurred (though I can't find the edited version of the image). That was my first thought too.  That said, the D&D Pictures thread took a different tack about a year ago:  I'm a fan.
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RagnarokAngel posted:It had a revival a few years ago but it's probably not surging right now. I mean frankly it's more talking about a broader social problem than just He-Man and thinking it's just about He-Man is being kind of obtuse. The author probably just picked a figure from their childhood. But Boys ARE given these role models who are buff and teach that you should solve problems with fighting rather than talking. Whether it's He-Man, Power Rangers, Ninja Turtles, whatever the problem is still the same. Interestingly, similar to the Barbie problem girls have, look at Star Wars action figures from the 70s, theyre often a lot more waifish, whereas today theyre significantly more buff, even the same character will have put on some muscle in the past few decades. I think another subtle difference between media aimed at boys and girls is that, for the most part, boy's cartoons/games/toys can also draw in a female audience- think of how many women play video games or read superhero comics, despite how obviously slanted the marketing is in favor of the male demographics. Meanwhile, the attitude toward the inverse is that is would be exceedingly odd for a boy to show interest in media aimed specifically at girls. (Plenty of parents probably took their young girls and boys alike to see TMNT, but probably fewer parents of just boys took them to see, say, the Little Mermaid.) I don't know if Barbie is still as blatantly sexist as the comical 1950's (doesn't she get to be a doctor and an astronaut and all kinds of stuff now at least?) but I don't think it's as simple add the toys make bad role models. I think the weird way marketing handles girls as some weird other species encourages boys to adopt a zero sum outlook, hence the active raging resentment some seem to show women who get into comics etc. ("fake nerds")
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I just can't stop giggling at "THIS IS HE-MAN" being read in a full voiced shout apropos of nothing.
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Lemma posted:I think another subtle difference between media aimed at boys and girls is that, for the most part, boy's cartoons/games/toys can also draw in a female audience- think of how many women play video games or read superhero comics, despite how obviously slanted the marketing is in favor of the male demographics. Meanwhile, the attitude toward the inverse is that is would be exceedingly odd for a boy to show interest in media aimed specifically at girls. (Plenty of parents probably took their young girls and boys alike to see TMNT, but probably fewer parents of just boys took them to see, say, the Little Mermaid.) The problem with that, though, is that some studio executives don't even want girls in the audience for cartoons directed at boys. As that quote says, part of why the cartoon Young Justice was cancelled was that the audience started to skew too far towards girls, and rather than start marketing toys for that segment of the audience as the executives thought they'd have to (even though, as you say, toys directed towards boys can still draw a female audience), they figured it was better to scrap it entirely.
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Feb 14, 2014 18:51
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These popped up on my facebook. 
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Feb 14, 2014 19:08
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Hahaha wow, a toy set that teaches spatial reasoning and self reliance? Holy poo poo, my toys were just good for mock-fighting each other. I get what they're going for, but saying he-man toys somehow teach boys critical life skills is loving dumb.
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sentientcarbon posted:Hahaha wow, a toy set that teaches spatial reasoning and self reliance? Holy poo poo, my toys were just good for mock-fighting each other. They're talking about stuff like legos for the spatial reasoning thing. Being a super awesome muscle man that murders the bad guys is self-reliance though.
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TGLT posted:They're talking about stuff like legos for the spatial reasoning thing. Being a super awesome muscle man that murders the bad guys is self-reliance though. Or as the brilliant Zach Weinersmith put it. 
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Feb 14, 2014 19:22
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A response to a comment I made on Media Matters post on Facebook:
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Breadallelogram posted:I commented with this, but it might not be good enough:
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TGLT posted:They're talking about stuff like legos for the spatial reasoning thing. Being a super awesome muscle man that murders the bad guys is self-reliance though.  Watch out, that girl is going to grow up to be an architect.
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I can only hope that one of my daughters wants to build  lego buildings with me.
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TGLT posted:They're talking about stuff like legos for the spatial reasoning thing. Being a super awesome muscle man that murders the bad guys is self-reliance though. I'm a little skeptical of the extent to which such messages are internalized, but teaching boys that physical violence is what solves conflicts probably isn't doing them any favors.
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