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Not gonna lie, I got pretty creeped out when Lauren's eyes went from "Psionics!" to "HEEEEEEEERE'S SNARL!" I wonder if it actually broke her brain...
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A planet whose only inhabitant is the Snarl? And maybe whichever souls he claims? It does look like escaping through the portal would have been a bad idea after all.
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Feb 15, 2014 20:16
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The "whatever the gently caress is coming out of that rift" is a lot more smooth and ...orderly compared to what we previously have seen of the Snarl. Of course, all we have seen was a single claw, from a third party flashback.
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Feb 15, 2014 20:34
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Johnny Aztec posted:The "whatever the gently caress is coming out of that rift" is a lot more smooth and ...orderly compared to what we previously have seen of the Snarl. In crayon, everything was rough.
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Feb 15, 2014 20:38
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I have in my mind the image of two brothers, each building a lego city. But the big brother kept poking the little brother and the little brother started lashing out at him. Or would the snarl be the big brother? Either way, I'm thinking it just wants to protect its world from interfering outsiders.
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Feb 15, 2014 20:50
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Tenebrais posted:I have in my mind the image of two brothers, each building a lego city. But the big brother kept poking the little brother and the little brother started lashing out at him. I don't know, an Epic? or at the very least high leveled Psion couldn't sense anything alive in the ocean that was right through the portal. I have a feeling its more camouflage than an actual fully built world.
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Feb 15, 2014 20:54
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It is the remnants of the first attempt at making a world. Maybe in it's resting state, it is one? After all, that world never got any sapient life put onto it. Maybe it's inimical to intelligent species? Or close observers in general? gently caress if I know, but it doesn't seem to mind a huge rift existing above
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Feb 15, 2014 21:06
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VanSandman posted:It is the remnants of the first attempt at making a world. Maybe in it's resting state, it is one? After all, that world never got any sapient life put onto it. Maybe it's inimical to intelligent species? Or close observers in general? Well, it was made of the fibers of a world being designed.
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Feb 15, 2014 21:13
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So any speculation on what Snarl eyes are? Will we see Lauren as a avatar of the abandoned god in a later strip?
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Feb 15, 2014 21:13
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You know, it did always seems a bit weird that no one was much worried about enemies having control of the rifts when it was supposedly super important to seal them with gates. I guess that's finally coming back to bite them in the rear end.WarpedLichen posted:So any speculation on what Snarl eyes are? Will we see Lauren as a avatar of the abandoned god in a later strip? It seems most likely to me that she's dead. Touching a godkilling abomination with your mind is probably unsafe.
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Feb 15, 2014 21:13
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Pretty sure it was just being reflected in her eyes. It just looks a bit odd due to the relatively low detail of the strip.
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Feb 15, 2014 21:20
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Taciturn Tactician posted:You know, it did always seems a bit weird that no one was much worried about enemies having control of the rifts when it was supposedly super important to seal them with gates. I guess that's finally coming back to bite them in the rear end. Yeah, you'd think that if an adventuring party can gate them, Xykon and co would just re-gate the rifts and keep going with their plans, unless it's a "these people knew how to do it and there's literally no evil spellcaster anywhere who could also do it" thing.
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Feb 15, 2014 21:31
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VanSandman posted:After all, that world never got any sapient life put onto it. If the flashbacks are anything to go on, yes the first world was inhabited. It had a full world population. The snarl gibbed the Greek gods, then turned on the planet.
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Feb 15, 2014 21:31
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Wolfsheim posted:Also, I like the fact that even though the evil adventuring party are all friends, they still gently caress each other over to get what they want. Well, they may be Evil, but they're still grown-ups. It's not like they're so spiteful as to begrudge someone for behaving exactly like they would.
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Feb 15, 2014 21:44
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Ursine Asylum posted:Yeah, you'd think that if an adventuring party can gate them, Xykon and co would just re-gate the rifts and keep going with their plans, unless it's a "these people knew how to do it and there's literally no evil spellcaster anywhere who could also do it" thing. Why would an arrogant Chaotic Evil spellcaster like Xykon trust any other caster to rebuild the gate in a way he could take advantage of?
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Feb 15, 2014 22:33
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I know that the big moment was supposed to be the snarl pushing through the portal but the "Oh poo poo!" moment for me in that comic was the casually mentioned line that there aren't any fish in that ocean. I could be the portal screened psionics or it could be that whatever is on the other side is a dead husk and we have been lured into thinking, "Maybe the snarl isn't the real bad guy."
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Feb 15, 2014 23:25
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Feb 15, 2014 23:29
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Random Stranger posted:I know that the big moment was supposed to be the snarl pushing through the portal but the "Oh poo poo!" moment for me in that comic was the casually mentioned line that there aren't any fish in that ocean. I could be the portal screened psionics or it could be that whatever is on the other side is a dead husk and we have been lured into thinking, "Maybe the snarl isn't the real bad guy." Deep ocean is pretty sparse of life. The majority of fish life in ocean are in relatively shallow areas. Oceans are pretty big, how far could a high level/epic psion detect things?
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Feb 15, 2014 23:29
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Johnny Aztec posted:Deep ocean is pretty sparse of life. The majority of fish life in ocean are in relatively shallow areas. Oceans are pretty big, how far could a high level/epic psion detect things? I actually knew that but this is one of those places where the lack of fish is clearly supposed to be significant. It's a long way around for a red herring (hah, fish pun!). FWIW, the planet was greenish-brown with a huge northern polar ice cap. Right now I'm with the theory that the Snarl is even nastier than we first thought; it's destroyed all animal life on that planet and is looking for more things to eat. Using it as a weapon is pointless because once out then it's all over. So... I'm also now predicting that Redcloak joins the party as Durkon's replacement after Durkon turns against them! 
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Feb 15, 2014 23:40
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Random Stranger posted:So... I'm also now predicting that Redcloak joins the party as Durkon's replacement after Durkon turns against them! Nope, not gonna happen. He's too far in with Xykon for his betrayal to be anything other than last minute.
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Feb 16, 2014 00:19
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Is that Orion's Belt in the sky above the ocean? Do DnD settings usually have real-world constellations?
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Feb 16, 2014 00:43
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magicalblender posted:Is that Orion's Belt in the sky above the ocean? Do DnD settings usually have real-world constellations? Hey, you're right! The way the three stars of the belt and the shoulders are placed here, it can't just be a coincidence. Is this just a constellational cameo, or is Rich being devious again?
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Feb 16, 2014 01:46
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ikanreed posted:Nope, not gonna happen. He's too far in with Xykon for his betrayal to be anything other than last minute. Unless the Snarl obliterates the gently caress out of Gobbotopia out of the rift above Azure City, leading Redcloak into some major self-reflection and re-examination of everything! Maybe. :I
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Feb 16, 2014 02:00
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This would be the perfect setup for Rich to end the comic right here. "The Gods unmade everything to create Earth 3.0, thank you for reading!"
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Feb 16, 2014 02:13
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The relative brightnesses of the stars aren't correct for it to be Orion, and the rest of the sky is all wrong, as far as I can tell.
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Feb 16, 2014 02:16
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DontMockMySmock posted:The relative brightnesses of the stars aren't correct for it to be Orion, and the rest of the sky is all wrong, as far as I can tell. And the relative positions aren't correct. If it was an intentional hint I'd think the "bow" would also be included to make it definitive. In this case, I suspect it's just some similarities. Besides, we've been explicitly told the world in the rift is not our earth.
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Feb 16, 2014 02:19
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TheAceOfLungs posted:it can't just be a coincidence. Why not?
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Feb 16, 2014 02:20
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Oddly enough, it could be a really weird callback to the fact that Earth exists as an alternate plane of reality to Oerth, where Greyhawk takes place. There's also a few other planes mentioned, if I recall right, but Gygax all but said way back when that Earth is a place as far as D&D is concerned. Edit: Didn't realize we've been told that it's not Earth in the portal, possibly another of said planes though? Either way, I can't wait for all this to come to a halt in 3 comics for his usual book break.
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Feb 16, 2014 02:52
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She said that there's no fish in the water, so clearly it's Earth in about twenty years.
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Tenebrais posted:I have in my mind the image of two brothers, each building a lego city. But the big brother kept poking the little brother and the little brother started lashing out at him. The fact that the Snarl didn't show itself until someone was peering too deeply into the portal with plans to go in, makes me think that you might very well be correct. It seemed to have opportunities to strike people close to the rift before that point that it didn't take. It doesn't feel like a mindless abomination trying to escape from it's prison. The whole unmaking of creation was what the azure city gods told people but how much do they really know since they fled right after the greek gods were slain? I'm not really sure if you can trust their interpretation of events as being completely accurate, especially since there seems to be an intact world here. The Snarl's MO might just be: meddling gods just cause problems, so they need to get the hell out and stay out. However that said, it might still be interested in jumping worlds if offered the chance, depending on how much it hates the remaining gods (maybe it would want to "save" the other world too who knows) or it might just want to be left alone.
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I'm kinda getting the impression that it isn't that someone was close enough to get in; after all, there've been at least two times where that easily could have happened. I'm thinking it may be more what Laurin is: a psion. My guess is that that's actually a real planet in there, and the Snarl is effectively it's god or guardian deity. Why lash out at Laurin in particular, and not Blackwing or Roy and co.? There are really only two major differences between them: alignment (and I'm not gonna go there because  ) and their abilities. So the Snarl senses something it doesn't recognize outside of its domain, and attacks it. And it doesn't recognize psionics....were there any psions in 2e DnD? (  )
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Feb 16, 2014 05:10
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Pseudoscorpion posted:...were there any psions in 2e DnD? psionics was a thing in 2e DnD as much as it was in 3rd.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:14
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Oh the Snarl its Rajat, is what you're saying, gonna silt up that sea, they better seal that planet da gently caress off.
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Pseudoscorpion posted:I'm kinda getting the impression that it isn't that someone was close enough to get in; after all, there've been at least two times where that easily could have happened. I'm thinking it may be more what Laurin is: a psion. My guess is that that's actually a real planet in there, and the Snarl is effectively it's god or guardian deity. Why lash out at Laurin in particular, and not Blackwing or Roy and co.? There are really only two major differences between them: alignment (and I'm not gonna go there because
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Pseudoscorpion posted:I'm kinda getting the impression that it isn't that someone was close enough to get in; after all, there've been at least two times where that easily could have happened. I'm thinking it may be more what Laurin is: a psion. My guess is that that's actually a real planet in there, and the Snarl is effectively it's god or guardian deity. Why lash out at Laurin in particular, and not Blackwing or Roy and co.? There are really only two major differences between them: alignment (and I'm not gonna go there because See that could actually work if you look at it as just LOOKING at the portal is fine, but trying to do anything to the other side, like scan it with psionics, pisses the snarl off.
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Pseudoscorpion posted:I'm kinda getting the impression that it isn't that someone was close enough to get in; after all, there've been at least two times where that easily could have happened. I'm thinking it may be more what Laurin is: a psion. My guess is that that's actually a real planet in there, and the Snarl is effectively it's god or guardian deity. Why lash out at Laurin in particular, and not Blackwing or Roy and co.? There are really only two major differences between them: alignment (and I'm not gonna go there because Blackwing and the order both only looked in, Laurin reached in with her mind. A better question is why it reacted to Laurin amd not all the humans Redcloak threw in to the rift for research purposes
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Feb 16, 2014 05:22
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Cat Mattress posted:Why not? Well, their position just looks too deliberate to me, what with the shoulders and everything, and their seeming to be spaced a little away from the rest of the random speckling. Does it mean anything? I have no idea; maybe Rich was only being whimsical. But I have doubts that it's just an accidental arrangement (which is what I mean by a coincidence). ETA: For what it's worth, Orion has long been my favorite constellation partially because it's the only one I could reliably find in the night sky. The rest all look like random dots with possibly seven or more Dippers and the occasional star that turns out to be an airplane. TheAceOfLungs fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Feb 16, 2014 |
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Feb 16, 2014 05:30
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Potsticker posted:psionics was a thing in 2e DnD as much as it was in 3rd. Psionics debuted in the original D&D's Supplement III: Eldritch Wizardry, making it as core to D&D as the Druid class.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:31
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Taciturn Tactician posted:Blackwing and the order both only looked in, Laurin reached in with her mind. A better question is why it reacted to Laurin amd not all the humans Redcloak threw in to the rift for research purposes Maybe it reacts to intent to study it? Like with Soon's wife.
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wdarkk posted:Maybe it reacts to intent to study it? Like with Soon's wife. Maybe as a creature born of conflicting artistic desires it detests creativity and/or curiosity?
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