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Well, if it wants to end on a positive note then the whole "civilization will persist, humanity will adapt" thing via living in walled-off cities would be a decent enough way. I just dunno if I'd want to live in the civilization where dying, sans some sort of head-wound, will end up with you becoming a zombie. Man, how ridiculously grim and nihilistic would that society be?
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It'll end with Judith or some other newborn being bitten but not turned showing the new generation doesn't have/is immune to the virus thus humanity will live on eventually.
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Feb 16, 2014 03:26
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Surlaw posted:Why do this to yourself instead of just watching shows you like? With TV series I like to finish what I started. (I also watched every minute of Dexter and Weeds.  ) Honestly, part of me does hope the writers decide one day to take up the gauntlet and do something creative or daring or thought provoking or anything besides appeal to the lowest common denominator.
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Feb 16, 2014 03:28
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Hesh Ballantine posted:(I also watched every minute of Dexter and Weeds. TV-watchers like you need a support group. 
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Feb 16, 2014 03:29
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I'd be happy with an ending like some Russians show up in a helicopter and say something like "Holy poo poo, what happened here?" and then going back home. I mean did the guy in season 1 definitively say that this was going on everywhere, wasn't it just something like "Paris went dark"? It'd be kind of hilarious if it was just happening in America and the rest of the world was leaving it the gently caress alone. Though I guess that's basically the ending to 28 Days Later.
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Feb 16, 2014 03:42
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precision posted:I'd be happy with an ending like some Russians show up in a helicopter and say something like "Holy poo poo, what happened here?" and then going back home. Yeah it was implied that it was worldwide
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Feb 16, 2014 03:45
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nutranurse posted:Man, how ridiculously grim and nihilistic would that society be? It might not be that grim. If you've got resources and enough numbers for species propagation, morale management is all about making people think long-term and maintaining some cultural momentum. Make sure that everyone has something to do and is aware of what they are building and how important they are to their family, friends, and humanity as a whole. Yes, life will have to change, in some ways pretty harshly, but there will still be the opportunity for joy, hope, and progress. A better future for the children.
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Feb 16, 2014 03:54
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precision posted:Considering how popular this show is, what are the actual odds of it even ending in the next, say, five or ten years? We could be sitting around in 20 years talking about how Carl totally shouldn't have survived the boat trip to England and lamenting the death of 15-Dogg at the hands of Carol's zombie daughter. I would give it five years or so at the max. While it's certainly popular it's sort of a one-note show and eventually it will run out of material/bodies. Plus AMC is kind of stupid so I fully expect them to kill their golden goose prematurely. And there is absolutely no way it ends with everything wrapped up. There will be zombies, and there will still be raiders et all, but there might be a little bit more order.
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Feb 16, 2014 04:03
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If they want to be consistent with the tone of the series (and the comics? Haven't read them) they really should end it as bleak as 'The Road', if not bleaker. Actually, just have The Road be the last episode, except replace cannibals with zombies, and remove the family at the end. Bam, job done.
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Feb 16, 2014 04:54
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The tone of the series so far has been "Survive, against all odds, stubbornly". I don't see it ending in a Road-esque way. Plus, the world of The Road was far more hosed than the world of TWD.
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precision posted:Considering how popular this show is, what are the actual odds of it even ending in the next, say, five or ten years? We could be sitting around in 20 years talking about how Carl totally shouldn't have survived the boat trip to England and lamenting the death of 15-Dogg at the hands of Carol's zombie daughter. 15 years later Judith is the only survivor, show ends with her walking along, Corle and Rick as armless/jawless walker pets.
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Feb 16, 2014 05:29
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Spiteski posted:15 years later Judith is the only survivor, show ends with her walking along, Corle and Rick as armless/jawless walker pets. Zombie Rick: Coorrrrlle
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Feb 16, 2014 05:36
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I'll stop watching if Daryl dies OR if Andrew Lincoln improves his accent. "Stuff. THANGS" 
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Feb 16, 2014 06:05
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Chandler Riggs is gonna be full grown before the show ends so they're gonna need to figure out what to do with him. They won't have a template from the comics because the comics has the cartoon luxury of having him perpetually be 13.
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Feb 16, 2014 06:09
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They just need to get him progressively bigger sheriff hats to wear each season so he looks 13.
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Feb 16, 2014 06:25
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zVxTeflon posted:They just need to get him progressively bigger sheriff hats to wear each season so he looks 13. Hit up Peter Jackson in NZ, he can work movie magic and make everyone else progressively larger than him, so at full grown, he still is the size of a hobbit. We can hide his facial hair with the hat.
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Feb 16, 2014 06:28
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Spiteski posted:Hit up Peter Jackson in NZ, he can work movie magic and make everyone else progressively larger than him, so at full grown, he still is the size of a hobbit.
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LeJackal posted:It might not be that grim. If you've got resources and enough numbers for species propagation, morale management is all about making people think long-term and maintaining some cultural momentum. Make sure that everyone has something to do and is aware of what they are building and how important they are to their family, friends, and humanity as a whole. LeJackal posted:It might not be that grim. If you've got resources and enough numbers for species propagation, morale management is all about making people think long-term and maintaining some cultural momentum. Make sure that everyone has something to do and is aware of what they are building and how important they are to their family, friends, and humanity as a whole. We've basically been turned back into hunter/gatherers except we have more knowledge lying around than they did 10000 years ago. Even just becoming agrarian again for any moderately sized group of people is going to require holding on to huge tracks of land. I'm not saying it's impossible, and it gets much easier psychologically once the generations that remember civilization dies off. I don't give it very good odds in cataclysm that's "clean", like in The Stand. With an unending threat of zombies, I'm pretty pessimistic. Even Rivet City will rust away to nothing eventually
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The most thematically appropriate ending would be a cliffhanger with no "mysteries" answered and no cure for the plague. Maybe something similar to Sopranos where it just ends.
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See, this is why TWD pisses me off because it's really loving obvious they have no idea what direction they want to take the series in, just like the comics which has gotten progressively more and more boring and pointless as they go on.
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Feb 16, 2014 17:59
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rypakal posted:We've basically been turned back into hunter/gatherers except we have more knowledge lying around than they did 10000 years ago. Even just becoming agrarian again for any moderately sized group of people is going to require holding on to huge tracks of land. I'm not saying it's impossible, and it gets much easier psychologically once the generations that remember civilization dies off. Everyone always assume people will forget civilization somehow, we have books we teach our children to read, mankind remembers it's history for nearly thousands of years. Not fully accurately but close enough really that we know the basics of what existed. Any decently organized group of 100+ people could survive, hell the main characters almost made a new society if they just understood the concept of reinforcing a fence and didn't have a madman after them with a tank.
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Feb 16, 2014 18:01
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In the comic the zombies have stopped being a threat for quite a long time. It's also pretty boring. Just every 20 issues there's new Governor type character. Rick defeats him. Rinse. Repeat.
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Mu Zeta posted:In the comic the zombies have stopped being a threat for quite a long time. It's also pretty boring. Just every 20 issues there's new Governor type character. Rick defeats him. Rinse. Repeat. It's pretty dull especially in the long run since Kirkman can't come up with interesting twists or new dynamics.
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Grin and Tonic posted:See, this is why TWD pisses me off because it's really loving obvious they have no idea what direction they want to take the series in, just like the comics which has gotten progressively more and more boring and pointless as they go on. There is only so many ways to show people struggling against the absurd (existentialist meaning of absurd) in this context. It should end soon, yeah.
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etalian posted:It's pretty dull especially in the long run since Kirkman can't come up with interesting twists or new dynamics. In which case he just kills off a long standing character and then starts over the whole thing with by introducing new people.
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socialsecurity posted:Everyone always assume people will forget civilization somehow, we have books we teach our children to read, mankind remembers it's history for nearly thousands of years. Not fully accurately but close enough really that we know the basics of what existed. Any decently organized group of 100+ people could survive, hell the main characters almost made a new society if they just understood the concept of reinforcing a fence and didn't have a madman after them with a tank. Yeah. I mean, on paper Woodbury was working. If the poo poo wasn't run by a psychopath then it would have been a solid example that you can grab a small town, secure it up, and live semi normally. If Rick's crew had more time without the super flu devestating their numbers and the Governor blowing poo poo up then I imagine that a little ways down the line they'd realize a prison was too limited and they had the numbers and resources to do Woodbury right. Find a gated community with a park you can turn into a farm and some running water and you've got a start. They've pretty much become masters at cleaning out walkers when they can control the situation. I never thought zombie post apocalypse worlds were doomed. The world as they know it is dead and that's a mind gently caress and a half, but given time and enough survivors it hardly seems impossible to build something back. Mankind has done it before with way less knowledge. Sure, the possibility of someone dying unexpectedly and launching a zombie outbreak is a pain in the rear end hurdle that always threatens to undue the work you've done but it's not entirely unmanageable.
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Mu Zeta posted:In the comic the zombies have stopped being a threat for quite a long time. It's also pretty boring. Just every 20 issues there's new Governor type character. Rick defeats him. Rinse. Repeat. That's what I liked quite a bit in this last episode, the zombies finally are somewhat of a threat now that the group is scattered and without as much supplies as they're used to. I'm hoping that the theme keeps up for a little while.
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etalian posted:It's pretty dull especially in the long run since Kirkman can't come up with interesting twists or new dynamics. Kirkman is a bad writer. It's pretty telling when a video game has had the best writing out of anything to do with the Walking Dead. Even the show is better than the comic because it avoids all the torture/rape/body mutilation porn fetishes that Kirkman has.
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I'm almost caught up at the midseason finale, but I feel like S4 has picked up much better and I'm glad they didn't sit too long in one place (still a problem with the middle stretch of S3), but it's only halfway there, so we'll see. Is that the general consensus or is my taste it TV gotten so bad that I think S4 of TWD is pretty drat good television at the very worst? If we're talking about endings they should just end it with a montage of the main cast slowly meeting their ends or something.
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socialsecurity posted:Everyone always assume people will forget civilization somehow, we have books we teach our children to read, mankind remembers it's history for nearly thousands of years. Not fully accurately but close enough really that we know the basics of what existed. Any decently organized group of 100+ people could survive, hell the main characters almost made a new society if they just understood the concept of reinforcing a fence and didn't have a madman after them with a tank. The amount of farmland needed to support the population they have is not insignificant, and oops if they have a single bad harvest. I'd really like to see more apocalyptic fiction move past the scavenging portion of the crisis. (Fallout just decides that era will last forever) Obviously things will be easier because of the accumulated knowledge of the years. But it's still going to be generations before you even reach middle ages levels of stability.
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rypakal posted:The amount of farmland needed to support the population they have is not insignificant, and oops if they have a single bad harvest. I'd really like to see more apocalyptic fiction move past the scavenging portion of the crisis. (Fallout just decides that era will last forever)
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Mu Zeta posted:In the comic the zombies have stopped being a threat for quite a long time. It's also pretty boring. Just every 20 issues there's new Governor type character. Rick defeats him. Rinse. Repeat. That's the problem. Just when Kirkman was introducing a new interesting idea about what to do in an apocalyptic world...we get a new Governor that curses a lot and talks to his bat. He makes me miss the classic "rapist creepy zombie daughter having" Governor. And the worst thing is that he seems to have no intent on ending things soon, which for a non-superhero comic is truly unnecessary. Learn a thing or two from Y: the Last Man, please.
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Going from True Detective to The Walking Dead is the new watching Breaking Bad and then going to Dexter. That Michonne scene with her ex boyfriends was painfully bad.
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Sober posted:I guess you only played Fallout 3? and New Vegas. And Fallout 2 has cheezy poofs! But Fallout gets away with it because of Magical Unknown Futuretech. By season 5 it should definitely be a Thing that a good minority portion of the cans they find are rancid.
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rypakal posted:and New Vegas. And Fallout 2 has cheezy poofs! But Fallout gets away with it because of Magical Unknown Futuretech. Walking Dead has magic zombies, why are you talking about realism?
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precision posted:Walking Dead has magic zombies, why are you talking about realism? Because Zombies are the only magical thing in the premise? e: OK, and the Hyundais e2: OK, and the gun aiming e3: fuuuck
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VDay posted:Yeah Daryl's definitely going to eventually die (if he ever does) with like a grenade in hand or something, and it'll be to save literally every other character still on the show. There's no way he's getting anything short of a Randy Quaid Independence Day sacrifice death. I know this was joke, but Norman Reedus seems just so laid-back, I don't see him getting in a fight with anyone. And now someone is going to link an article for me about Norman Reedus getting in a bar fight several years back or something.
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So tonight's the ep that turns the show around?
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Feb 17, 2014 02:08
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Does amazon release the episode as they air -- Anyone know?
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